WEBVTT 00:00:06.880 --> 00:00:08.020 Well, hello, everybody. 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:12.180 I am Joe Drennan, and I'm with Feimers University. 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:18.875 And thank you for, you know, attending our master in psychology online webinar. 00:00:19.175 --> 00:00:23.115 And we we're very so fortunate to have a great guest tonight. 00:00:23.255 --> 00:00:26.475 And we have her name is Emily Hishorn. 00:00:27.095 --> 00:00:33.270 You know, she graduated last year from the master of psychology online program. 00:00:33.650 --> 00:00:42.150 And, you know, Emily offers both creative and practical approaches given to her background in the financial services. 00:00:42.210 --> 00:00:44.395 That's, you know, that is where she works. 00:00:44.395 --> 00:00:48.095 She doesn't necessarily do, you know, psychology and counseling. 00:00:48.235 --> 00:00:54.175 But, but the, she did get a recent certification at inspiring comfort. 00:00:54.235 --> 00:01:02.480 These are workshops to help and skill on connection and care, you know, which should bring, you know, a lot of joy to people. 00:01:02.780 --> 00:01:07.680 And, you know, Emily was, you know, very happy with the time she spent at DMU. 00:01:08.300 --> 00:01:09.760 He has a master in psychology. 00:01:10.540 --> 00:01:10.940 Yeah. 00:01:10.940 --> 00:01:16.605 But, you know, she was also working full time in the the financial services industry. 00:01:16.745 --> 00:01:35.800 So but she's located in New York, and she hopes to continue the university's mission by sharing its unique Catholic Christian methodology and approach to healing, which is needed, oh, so much in a clinical and nonclinical way. 00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:38.340 And, you know, she believes her age. 00:01:38.340 --> 00:01:40.945 You know, she's been out of college five years. 00:01:41.405 --> 00:01:41.725 Yeah. 00:01:41.725 --> 00:01:54.145 But it enables her, broad perspective to help, you know, folks of different ages from different new universities and different, you know, whatever you graduated, whatever subject matter. 00:01:54.700 --> 00:02:00.640 And, and but she did graduate from University of Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana. 00:02:01.340 --> 00:02:10.955 It was pretty high honors too, and she was also a residential assistant while attending University of Notre Dame. 00:02:10.955 --> 00:02:15.215 So what I could do is I wanna ask Emily some questions. 00:02:15.915 --> 00:02:17.775 And, you know, please listen. 00:02:17.835 --> 00:02:20.715 If you have questions, you know, put them in the chat. 00:02:20.715 --> 00:02:28.340 But, well, first of all, Emily, what attracted what attracted you to Divine Mercy University? 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:31.540 Thanks, Joe, for your intro. 00:02:31.600 --> 00:02:32.720 I'm honored to be here. 00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:34.660 Thanks everybody for joining. 00:02:35.465 --> 00:02:39.705 So I first learned about Divine Mercy when I was an undergrad at Notre Dame. 00:02:39.705 --> 00:02:47.785 I attended one of those focused seek conferences or Catholic conferences for university students, and Divine Mercy had a table set up. 00:02:47.785 --> 00:02:49.790 So that was kinda my first exposure. 00:02:50.810 --> 00:02:56.430 And one of the speakers at the conference said, you know what the world needs more of, is Catholic psychologists. 00:02:57.290 --> 00:02:58.810 So that really stuck with me. 00:02:58.810 --> 00:03:02.785 I walked away with that little seed in my, you know, mind starting to bloom. 00:03:02.785 --> 00:03:03.465 I was like, okay. 00:03:03.465 --> 00:03:05.325 Maybe I'm gonna explore this more. 00:03:06.345 --> 00:03:08.265 And what exactly is Catholic psychology? 00:03:08.265 --> 00:03:12.205 I didn't know there could be a uniquely Catholic lens to it, but that excited me. 00:03:13.385 --> 00:03:20.110 So it took a couple more years, after that, after, you know, graduating and starting my full time job in finance. 00:03:21.290 --> 00:03:25.790 The idea kept coming back to me, and I wanted to pursue it further. 00:03:26.730 --> 00:03:44.245 So, yeah, I was definitely drawn to DMU because of that kind of mission statement, but also out of curiosity for about how psychology as a science could also be theological and kind of bringing that together since theology was also another one of my pursuits, undergrad and in love. 00:03:46.100 --> 00:03:47.480 That's a great answer. 00:03:47.540 --> 00:04:02.705 So but, you know, when when you graduate from college with your bachelor's degree, and you know the next step is, well, maybe I'm gonna get a master's degree someday. 00:04:03.405 --> 00:04:12.465 But, you know, what motivated you to, start and complete your your your your master's in psychology with divine mercy? 00:04:13.430 --> 00:04:13.930 Yeah. 00:04:14.070 --> 00:04:14.550 Definitely. 00:04:14.550 --> 00:04:14.790 Right? 00:04:14.790 --> 00:04:19.270 Because, you know, you undergrad can have a very academic approach. 00:04:19.270 --> 00:04:20.150 Like, you know what you're doing. 00:04:20.150 --> 00:04:23.770 And then once you start a job, it can kind of feel a little distance from academia. 00:04:23.990 --> 00:04:26.230 And, but I didn't wanna forget it. 00:04:26.230 --> 00:04:26.390 Right? 00:04:26.390 --> 00:04:28.150 It's like, I will go back, and I will do that. 00:04:28.150 --> 00:04:33.345 So I guess what actually motivated me to enroll when I did, was actually during the pandemic. 00:04:33.845 --> 00:04:35.645 I think it was May 2021. 00:04:35.645 --> 00:04:43.665 So I had already had over a year, more than that, of working fully remotely, being at home with all of my siblings also working. 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.180 My then boyfriend, now husband, was also, you know, working in our little cohort. 00:04:48.640 --> 00:04:52.960 And, actually, it was him, Andre, who challenged me. 00:04:52.960 --> 00:04:56.180 He's like, oh, like, you've mentioned this, you know, psychology thing. 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:58.180 What if you actually do it? 00:04:59.235 --> 00:05:01.415 And I was like, okay. 00:05:01.715 --> 00:05:03.395 I guess maybe now is a good time. 00:05:03.395 --> 00:05:06.135 But I kept on thinking, oh, maybe I'll just catch the next cohort. 00:05:07.475 --> 00:05:08.515 But he was like, no. 00:05:08.515 --> 00:05:09.955 Let's like, you're interested in this. 00:05:09.955 --> 00:05:10.995 Let's let's get it going. 00:05:10.995 --> 00:05:18.570 So after some discussions with the admissions rep at that point and also talking to current students, I was more convinced, okay. 00:05:18.570 --> 00:05:21.290 I can still keep, you know, two tracks going at once. 00:05:21.290 --> 00:05:32.505 I can still work and also pursue this dream, which has been on my heart for several years, and kind of honor God with that because I felt like he had, you know, kept bringing it to mind. 00:05:33.065 --> 00:05:34.605 And so I enrolled. 00:05:34.905 --> 00:05:38.665 Selfishly, I think Andre is he's an investment banker, so he works a lot. 00:05:38.665 --> 00:05:42.440 So I think he also wanted me, you know, to not be too lonely after hour. 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:51.880 You'll you'll have my work, and then I'll have some nighttime work that I get to do, you know, to be in in the in the trenches, you know, while he's in the trenches. 00:05:51.880 --> 00:05:53.100 So yeah. 00:05:53.995 --> 00:05:57.135 Well, it it seemed like it worked out pretty well. 00:05:57.195 --> 00:05:59.115 So for you and Andre. 00:05:59.115 --> 00:06:06.760 So but, but, you know, I mean, we have a lot of students who I mean, they have a job. 00:06:06.760 --> 00:06:08.040 They're working full time. 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.720 You know, forty or maybe more hours a week in that. 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:21.020 So, I mean, how did you fit your study time into Divine Mercy University for your master's degree studies? 00:06:22.095 --> 00:06:22.595 Yeah. 00:06:22.655 --> 00:06:28.515 So I think, you know, when you begin any journey, it's easy to kinda minimize the effort that you perceive. 00:06:28.655 --> 00:06:29.215 Like, okay. 00:06:29.215 --> 00:06:30.755 I I love this idea. 00:06:31.855 --> 00:06:33.135 It'll totally be fine. 00:06:33.135 --> 00:06:33.535 You know? 00:06:33.535 --> 00:06:33.855 Okay. 00:06:33.855 --> 00:06:35.715 Just, you know, a couple hours a day. 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:37.680 I'll just do it after work. 00:06:39.020 --> 00:06:41.740 But, you know, once you actually start, you kinda realize, okay. 00:06:41.740 --> 00:06:43.340 Like, these are the demands. 00:06:43.340 --> 00:06:47.680 You're learning a new language of, you know, APA citations, kinda getting in a new mindset. 00:06:49.035 --> 00:06:58.255 I think also my timing, I had had a couple years out of college, so getting back into the academic mindset, writing, which I did miss, but still, you know, you gotta flex the muscle again. 00:06:59.435 --> 00:07:01.115 So, you know, were there Friday nights? 00:07:01.115 --> 00:07:04.880 So it's customary that we had discussion posts, you know, due on a weekly basis. 00:07:05.340 --> 00:07:06.540 At that point, it was Friday night. 00:07:06.540 --> 00:07:10.060 I think it got moved to Saturday, but for me, it was Friday evening, midnight. 00:07:10.060 --> 00:07:20.615 So were there Friday evenings when I was, you know, kind of scrambling, getting things together after work, doing my readings, getting my post in, or even traveling in the back of cars, you know, going away for the weekend. 00:07:20.615 --> 00:07:21.495 I'm like, sorry, guys. 00:07:21.495 --> 00:07:22.935 Like, can you get my hot spot? 00:07:22.935 --> 00:07:24.795 I I just need to get this post in. 00:07:25.015 --> 00:07:27.895 Or landing, you know, from airplanes, being what time is it? 00:07:27.895 --> 00:07:28.215 Okay. 00:07:28.215 --> 00:07:29.675 Still gotta get my post in. 00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:31.810 So, you know, part of that was definitely me. 00:07:31.810 --> 00:07:36.470 I think I like the adrenaline of doing things, you know, and a little bit of more tight turnaround. 00:07:37.490 --> 00:07:42.690 But, you know, on the syllabus, everything is laid out for the whole term, so you can make your plans. 00:07:42.690 --> 00:07:43.650 You know what's due. 00:07:44.365 --> 00:07:49.645 You could trip away at it every day, or you could find, you know, different evenings where you wanna spend more time. 00:07:49.645 --> 00:07:50.605 It's really up to you. 00:07:50.605 --> 00:07:53.905 That's what's great about it being mainly asynchronous. 00:07:54.685 --> 00:07:59.345 So for working, you kind of know when would work best with your schedule. 00:08:01.070 --> 00:08:08.030 But because of, like, the discussion, you know, post component and needing to respond to people, there have to be strict deadlines. 00:08:08.030 --> 00:08:13.570 So, I added them to my calendars and alerts, you know, getting back into the, oh, I have this weekly deadline. 00:08:14.910 --> 00:08:17.225 Was Netflix less part of my life then? 00:08:17.285 --> 00:08:19.525 Definitely, you make some sacrifices. 00:08:19.525 --> 00:08:20.985 You cut some things out. 00:08:21.125 --> 00:08:26.585 I also rarely made plans with friends on Friday nights just because I knew I have had these, you know, standing deadlines. 00:08:27.765 --> 00:08:36.640 But I am so grateful I did it, and I think now I'm kind of feeling like, oh, I wish I had some tangible thing I was chipping away at. 00:08:36.860 --> 00:08:47.945 It felt so great every term to complete a course and have a new, you know, depth of knowledge and, yeah, also kind of work towards that graduation one one course at a time. 00:08:48.405 --> 00:08:48.725 Wow. 00:08:48.725 --> 00:08:50.185 That kinda worked really well. 00:08:51.045 --> 00:09:00.585 So, you know, so, Emily, you know, when you're going full go, you know, for that twenty six months or so, and then you're finished. 00:09:01.450 --> 00:09:01.930 Mhmm. 00:09:01.930 --> 00:09:02.890 Then you're finished. 00:09:02.890 --> 00:09:07.790 I mean, what did you do with that extra fifteen hours a week that you're not studying? 00:09:10.890 --> 00:09:12.430 I was like, you don't wanna know. 00:09:12.810 --> 00:09:19.325 I mean, I guess maybe I have more time for just, like, reading for fun instead of reading for school. 00:09:20.425 --> 00:09:29.390 Maybe a little bit more regimented with getting to, like, work out or try different hobbies, see family, but I feel like it it kind of ends up being the same. 00:09:30.090 --> 00:09:33.450 Maybe it was it's just time wasted instead of time spent. 00:09:33.450 --> 00:09:42.010 But I do enjoy I do enjoy the free moments, and I do enjoy taking vacations without you know, you can take work off, but then you didn't couldn't take school off. 00:09:42.010 --> 00:09:45.215 So I think it's nice to have vacations where I'm off from both. 00:09:45.215 --> 00:09:48.355 But like I said, I I do kinda miss it sometimes. 00:09:49.135 --> 00:09:49.615 Okay. 00:09:49.615 --> 00:09:49.935 Yeah. 00:09:49.935 --> 00:09:51.055 Because it's a routine. 00:09:51.055 --> 00:09:51.535 And Yeah. 00:09:51.535 --> 00:09:52.255 It's a routine. 00:09:52.255 --> 00:09:58.940 Sometimes when you, you know, not doing a routine, you you feel not lonely, but, like, what am I gonna do? 00:09:58.940 --> 00:10:00.460 So oh, great. 00:10:00.460 --> 00:10:01.740 That's a great answer. 00:10:01.740 --> 00:10:12.765 So, like, you know, when you look at through the 11 courses that you took or thirty three credit hours in that, What did you learn most? 00:10:15.145 --> 00:10:16.685 I learned learned a lot. 00:10:16.985 --> 00:10:23.725 I think it's so great with the masters getting to really focus on one discipline, of your own, you know, choice. 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:25.280 Like, you you've chosen this. 00:10:25.280 --> 00:10:26.820 You get to focus on it. 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:33.140 So after work, I was mostly always excited to to delve into the topics. 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:38.455 So, I mean, maybe this is a non answer, but I really learned more of what I do not know. 00:10:39.155 --> 00:11:03.020 I think the mental health space, can kinda be almost boxed in or minimized, but I think I was opened up, to be more curious, definitely less judgmental in receiving people and understanding their complexity as a person, you know, as created by God and also with, you know, different layers, culture, family upbringing, vocation, genetics, like, all these all these factors. 00:11:04.680 --> 00:11:08.875 And, yeah, so I I learned a lot as a person. 00:11:08.875 --> 00:11:14.255 I know it's definitely I've applied principles in in my marriage and my family life. 00:11:14.955 --> 00:11:16.335 I've brought ideas to work. 00:11:18.635 --> 00:11:19.455 So yeah. 00:11:21.700 --> 00:11:30.440 And I learned that, you know, I had basic skills as a, you know, person with empathy and person who connects to others. 00:11:31.380 --> 00:11:40.825 But I was so excited to grow those more and be challenged, in the different coursework, and develop my writing and learn a whole, yeah, whole new language. 00:11:41.205 --> 00:11:41.605 Mhmm. 00:11:41.605 --> 00:11:44.085 So, yeah, I feel like I just learned a lot of different things. 00:11:44.085 --> 00:11:46.885 I don't know if that's fully answering your question, Joe. 00:11:46.885 --> 00:11:50.265 But So so what did you learn most about Emily? 00:11:50.940 --> 00:11:52.400 About myself? 00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:02.860 Well, I really liked, one of the later courses in the sequence, which is about leading and facilitating groups. 00:12:02.860 --> 00:12:04.140 It's, like, kind of group work. 00:12:04.140 --> 00:12:06.720 It's the kind of a human services course. 00:12:08.955 --> 00:12:13.295 And I guess I learned we didn't have concentrations at at that point in time when I did the program. 00:12:13.355 --> 00:12:14.415 They're being developed. 00:12:14.475 --> 00:12:22.240 But if I were to do it now, I would probably lean towards the human services one because I loved all the courses that were categorized as that. 00:12:23.420 --> 00:12:33.360 So I learned that I did have natural skills as, a leader and that I'm not really phased by, you know, complex or difficult situations. 00:12:33.955 --> 00:12:48.195 But I kinda had a hat of I was told I had kind of had the persona of almost like a high school, leader because I did this you know, I did lead groups as a high school or in college student, but I had to adjust my approach when working with adults. 00:12:48.195 --> 00:12:50.160 So it was, like, good to just have, like, okay. 00:12:50.160 --> 00:12:54.980 You have these skills, but we're gonna, like, change the context or, yeah, of it. 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.440 And I learned more about, what we spent a lot of time on empathy, kind of like a no joke. 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:02.420 Like, what is empathy? 00:13:02.935 --> 00:13:05.355 We got a demo through different situations. 00:13:05.415 --> 00:13:11.675 I made, you know, my husband's now husband, Andre, be my, like, counterpart and go through different scenarios. 00:13:11.895 --> 00:13:13.415 Kinda we still have those videos. 00:13:13.415 --> 00:13:14.055 Kinda hilarious. 00:13:14.055 --> 00:13:17.990 But when you review yourself on video, you kind of notice a lot of new things. 00:13:17.990 --> 00:13:26.490 So I learned kind of practical things about how I could adjust my leadership approach and approach to people when they have different needs that come up. 00:13:27.110 --> 00:13:33.505 But I also learned and was grateful for kinda the sandbox that we were shown where we were would exist. 00:13:33.645 --> 00:13:43.230 So a lot of the professors have, are doctors either, like, academically or, like, you know, medically in, you know, the psychology space. 00:13:43.710 --> 00:14:07.915 So I really appreciated when they brought in stories from their clinical experiences to to help further, like, show and illustrate to us the, you know, the theories that we were learning, but at the same time, also gratitude for their work and also how it's different from what our work would be as MSP graduates, kind of referring out in those cases when, you know, the scope is too broad for our knowledge. 00:14:07.915 --> 00:14:13.040 So seeing the partnership there, but also really liking learning about the clinical side as well. 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:15.540 So I was grateful when the professors brought that in. 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:17.600 It's very well said. 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:19.380 And one more question. 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:37.885 And, you know, our whole, I guess, foundation and which makes Divine Mercy University unique is that, you know, the deeper understanding of the whole person, which we call the Catholic and Christian Meta Model. 00:14:37.885 --> 00:14:44.630 So how did that help you, of course, so you could help other people first? 00:14:45.890 --> 00:14:46.390 Yes. 00:14:46.930 --> 00:14:55.750 So I think it's so so amazing that, you know, we call the CCMMP Catholic Christian Meta Model of Human Person is really part of every course. 00:14:56.905 --> 00:15:06.765 And we we review different excerpts and definitely cite it a lot in our posts and also use it in our eventual capstone project that we you work on throughout the program. 00:15:08.425 --> 00:15:17.510 So it's definitely the handbook for bringing together all these topics, psychology, philosophy, theology, coming together. 00:15:19.330 --> 00:15:41.330 So I think it it really is illustrates the generosity of of God and the way that he heals, you know, in terms of and also other important things like evil, not being foundational, but good being foundational and, you know, humanity being created for for goodness and flourishing and created for love and community. 00:15:42.270 --> 00:15:52.965 So being able to see the brokenness in the world, but through this lens and understanding that humans are made for more, is really positive. 00:15:53.505 --> 00:15:55.665 And, also, we're not left alone in that. 00:15:55.665 --> 00:16:03.360 So, like, God as being this creator and this healer as as part of the process from beginning is really great and life changing. 00:16:04.220 --> 00:16:12.880 In terms of my own life, I think I was able to explore, prioritization better, like levels of vocation and and God. 00:16:13.100 --> 00:16:16.140 You know, you can say, oh, God should be first, but, really, it's like, wow. 00:16:16.140 --> 00:16:19.765 Our primary vocation is this, you know, relationship with God. 00:16:20.625 --> 00:16:26.485 And then secondary is, you know, lay or married or priesthood. 00:16:26.625 --> 00:16:28.065 And then the third level is work. 00:16:28.065 --> 00:16:31.765 So I think work can sometimes feel like, oh, it's it's first, but it's not. 00:16:31.830 --> 00:16:33.770 So I think back to that a lot. 00:16:35.110 --> 00:16:42.810 And, also, I think the discussion of virtues is so is so positive and enlightening. 00:16:43.750 --> 00:17:14.700 I'm really thinking through my own life, where are the struggles, what are the roadblocks, to you know, not just generally being a good person, but being a virtuous person, being, you know, a person for others, a woman of God, but also having more understanding of of the complexity of why people struggle and, I think, you know, exploration of addiction and everything, not just putting it on them, but understanding all this, you know, cycles and steps that have led them there. 00:17:14.700 --> 00:17:18.475 And, yeah, I think just more generosity for the complexity. 00:17:20.295 --> 00:17:22.315 So, yeah, the the model is everything. 00:17:22.375 --> 00:17:25.675 It reminds me I should go back to it and explore it. 00:17:26.695 --> 00:17:35.600 But I also encourage everyone on this call to watch the commencement speech from doctor Paul Vitz from 2023, my grad year. 00:17:35.600 --> 00:17:36.480 It was amazing. 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:56.575 It kinda tracks out the history of psychology as he sees it since he was part of, you know, part of its history in shaping our university, and illustrating how the Catholic model really does go beyond what the secular, approach to psychology can offer and even what positive psychology can offer because that focuses on virtues and everything. 00:17:56.575 --> 00:18:01.690 But, it's still not enough because you said you don't want to get someone from negative 10 to zero. 00:18:01.690 --> 00:18:05.450 We wanna get them from negative 10 to 10 or something. 00:18:05.450 --> 00:18:12.205 Like and also not just focusing on this world, but focusing on flourishing in the next. 00:18:12.205 --> 00:18:15.005 Like, we're not just healing for a limited number of years. 00:18:15.005 --> 00:18:18.625 We're trying to heal someone to then be, with God forever. 00:18:18.845 --> 00:18:22.625 So that is very different, than secular psychology. 00:18:22.765 --> 00:18:23.805 Oh, yes, Jennifer. 00:18:23.805 --> 00:18:25.665 We will post Cool. 00:18:25.820 --> 00:18:26.180 What's the name? 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:28.080 Or I can even post the link for you. 00:18:28.540 --> 00:18:29.680 Let me look it up. 00:18:33.100 --> 00:18:38.620 So, it was a question from Jennifer, and she says, what was his name? 00:18:38.620 --> 00:18:41.120 Is she referring to maybe doctor Vitz? 00:18:41.715 --> 00:18:42.215 Yes. 00:18:42.435 --> 00:18:42.755 Yes. 00:18:42.755 --> 00:18:47.255 And I can also post the commencement clip as well after we conclude. 00:18:47.715 --> 00:18:50.515 I mean, I I met doctor Vitz. 00:18:50.515 --> 00:18:56.730 He is just the I'm not gonna say a bigger than life person, but pretty much. 00:18:56.730 --> 00:19:08.910 And, he's just very on it and he has great sense of humor and, but, you know, he wrote that 900 page book on the Catholic Christian. 00:19:09.610 --> 00:19:11.505 So that was pretty good. 00:19:11.505 --> 00:19:15.765 So, you know, any other any other questions for Emily? 00:19:18.065 --> 00:19:19.365 Well, you put the YouTube. 00:19:19.505 --> 00:19:21.105 Is that did you do that, Emily? 00:19:21.105 --> 00:19:21.425 Okay. 00:19:21.425 --> 00:19:21.905 Great. 00:19:21.905 --> 00:19:22.725 Thank you. 00:19:23.505 --> 00:19:24.165 Of course. 00:19:26.560 --> 00:19:27.520 I might watch it again. 00:19:27.520 --> 00:19:28.420 It was so good. 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.980 Because, I wonder. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:59.790 Oh, we well, all I could say is this, Emily and Nathan, is that, not everybody in the program's Catholic, but the Christian or, you know, they have some type of faith, which is they believe that there is something higher, you know, than us that guides us. 00:20:01.610 --> 00:20:02.110 Yes. 00:20:03.370 --> 00:20:04.650 Thank you for your question, Nathan. 00:20:04.650 --> 00:20:05.550 It's a good one. 00:20:06.090 --> 00:20:13.185 So I think the great thing is that the framework, while it is Catholic Christian, is still for every human person. 00:20:13.185 --> 00:20:20.965 So, you know, what is desired for humanity in terms of flourishing, is for every person regardless of their faith. 00:20:21.185 --> 00:20:31.490 And, definitely, this comes up as a topic in several of the courses in terms of cultural awareness and, like, you know, other faiths and, like, how to be sensitive to the specific needs of the person. 00:20:32.590 --> 00:20:36.270 And, really, where they open a door, you can open the door to. 00:20:36.430 --> 00:20:48.355 Again, we're not becoming counselors, but in conversations, like, other people will lead the way and even recognizing a creator or another factor in life, has been shown to, like, aid with healing. 00:20:49.055 --> 00:20:58.700 But even if they don't have any belief, still being groundwork in the framework in terms of its goals for the person, is different than just a secular perspective. 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.880 And approaches offered would also be different as well. 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:12.775 Like marriage counseling offered by, you know, the secular side can, you know, suggest, you know, immoral approaches like, oh, like, this has happened. 00:21:12.775 --> 00:21:13.015 No. 00:21:13.015 --> 00:21:13.815 I've heard it from others. 00:21:13.815 --> 00:21:15.575 Oh, just watch pornography together. 00:21:15.575 --> 00:21:17.095 Like, that'll help with their intimacy. 00:21:17.095 --> 00:21:26.420 So, like, that's an example of when something, you know, not positive, negative for marriage is introduced, but would not be introduced from a Catholic background. 00:21:26.420 --> 00:21:31.300 That's kind of an extreme example, but, hopefully, it answers what you're saying. 00:21:31.300 --> 00:21:45.295 But, yes, sensitivity and awareness is definitely there, but not in terms of minimizing what we think, is essential in terms of the framework that has been, you know, developed and put forth by Divine Mercy. 00:21:45.675 --> 00:21:46.175 Right. 00:21:46.475 --> 00:21:52.910 And, again, you know, Emily refers to secular psychology. 00:21:53.450 --> 00:22:02.510 And, you know, secular psychology is psychology that you learn from usually from a public university and many private universities. 00:22:02.970 --> 00:22:05.665 And it's just it's just psychology. 00:22:06.845 --> 00:22:11.105 And, you know, in our program, you know, we do of course, we teach psychology. 00:22:11.885 --> 00:22:33.740 We have some philosophy, but we also infuse psychology to where we don't have, like, a religion one zero one course, but we may make references to the saints and the Bible to help you flourish so you can help other people flourish if you're working with. 00:22:34.475 --> 00:22:34.955 Definitely. 00:22:34.955 --> 00:22:39.915 And it's not like actually, the research literature written by Catholics is more minimal. 00:22:39.915 --> 00:22:40.155 You know? 00:22:40.155 --> 00:22:46.975 So we're you're reading research literature that's, you know, you know, been written by all kinds of authors. 00:22:47.035 --> 00:22:59.380 So it's not like you always have the, the content isn't always specifically Catholic, but you always have this lens with which to review everything and the studies and how they're conducted and everything. 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.100 So, yeah, you really get the best of both worlds, like, scientific rigor. 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:09.755 Like, there's a statistics course that you have to take, very helpful, little tricky, but helpful. 00:23:10.615 --> 00:23:14.615 And there's philosophy and, you know, basically yeah. 00:23:14.615 --> 00:23:18.780 As Joe has mentioned, it all fits together. 00:23:18.780 --> 00:23:25.920 So it's a framework, but in terms of the materials itself, you get to really review and and come to your your conclusions from them. 00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:27.420 Right. 00:23:27.420 --> 00:23:44.760 Because it's, you know, we it's you're trying to find that deeper understanding of the people because, you know, sometimes you you ask a question, to someone and how's it going or whatever, and they give you this. 00:23:44.980 --> 00:23:48.040 But then you ask another question. 00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:50.280 What about this or that? 00:23:50.660 --> 00:23:52.200 And they tell you more. 00:23:52.820 --> 00:24:02.415 And then, you know, it then you ask another question on, well, you know, how does that affect you or or what have you on that? 00:24:02.415 --> 00:24:08.735 And but, you know, a lot of what we do is it's psychology is not telling people what to do. 00:24:08.735 --> 00:24:10.540 It's asking people. 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:19.100 And, you know, and with their answers, you use your skills to give them the best direction possible. 00:24:19.320 --> 00:24:26.525 But, you know, when you ask a lot of questions, many people, they'll figure out their own path because, oh, I get it. 00:24:26.525 --> 00:24:28.665 It's a a eureka moment. 00:24:29.005 --> 00:24:34.625 And, they can go from, you know, they can go from there and, you know, figure it out themselves. 00:24:34.845 --> 00:24:40.140 But they need you to help them, you know, with that part of their journey. 00:24:40.140 --> 00:25:01.495 So so Emily, another question here is, well, I mean, so the question is, sounds great. 00:25:01.495 --> 00:25:04.715 I'm Catholic but interested in helping those in background. 00:25:08.540 --> 00:25:08.860 Okay. 00:25:08.860 --> 00:25:10.060 You answered them, Lisa. 00:25:10.060 --> 00:25:10.800 That's good. 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:12.240 Supporting. 00:25:12.620 --> 00:25:13.520 Supporting Nathan. 00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:14.160 Renathan. 00:25:16.060 --> 00:25:17.120 Oh, there's Therese. 00:25:20.815 --> 00:25:21.955 You know this person. 00:25:22.095 --> 00:25:23.395 So Yes. 00:25:23.455 --> 00:25:25.155 Therese and I were in the same cohort. 00:25:26.095 --> 00:25:26.335 Yeah. 00:25:26.335 --> 00:25:27.875 From the I made their statistics. 00:25:29.455 --> 00:25:32.175 It wasn't that bad. 00:25:32.175 --> 00:25:33.955 Statistics is not that bad. 00:25:34.175 --> 00:25:35.155 It's all good. 00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:35.820 Okay. 00:25:35.820 --> 00:25:39.020 But it's great when you That's fine. 00:25:39.020 --> 00:25:41.020 Well, I mean, these are awesome. 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:42.560 Really, really great questions. 00:25:42.940 --> 00:25:56.975 And, I mean, I guess my question to everybody here is, you know, do you want to step up into that next level in getting a master's degree in psychology? 00:25:57.755 --> 00:25:59.295 That's gonna take time. 00:25:59.755 --> 00:26:01.435 And I'm not gonna say money. 00:26:01.435 --> 00:26:03.775 You know, you can always recoup money. 00:26:04.950 --> 00:26:11.690 But, you know, you it's tough to recoup time so you can help other people help people. 00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:14.170 And that's what this is about. 00:26:14.230 --> 00:26:15.990 And we we wanna help people. 00:26:15.990 --> 00:26:18.490 There's so many problems out there today. 00:26:19.225 --> 00:26:23.325 And, you know, a lot of it, people they they just need someone to listen to them. 00:26:23.625 --> 00:26:30.125 But with your skills and what they tell you, you can direct them in the right ways. 00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:33.600 Absolutely. 00:26:35.100 --> 00:26:37.040 So, anyway, we have Charice. 00:26:37.580 --> 00:26:42.400 And Charice was, Emily's, you know, classmate. 00:26:42.940 --> 00:26:47.840 And, you know, so she's a graduate, but she is an admissions adviser. 00:26:48.060 --> 00:26:55.255 And she she does she and she enrolls for the master of psychology and the master's of counseling. 00:26:55.475 --> 00:27:05.980 So what Charisse was gonna do, she was gonna go through the we we call it our little presentation about the master's degree of psychology online. 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.460 So it's all yours, Therese. 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:09.480 Great. 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.420 I'll just do a quick introduction of myself. 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:12.120 Yes. 00:27:12.120 --> 00:27:13.820 I my name is Therese. 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:24.035 I joined DMU here as an admissions adviser just last year last October, But I am actually a student at CMU since summer twenty twenty one. 00:27:24.335 --> 00:27:26.035 We were a great cohort. 00:27:28.255 --> 00:27:29.695 So Emily was in my cohort. 00:27:29.695 --> 00:27:35.530 We've been we were working together for two two years to complete it, and we graduated. 00:27:35.530 --> 00:27:36.590 We were able to walk. 00:27:36.650 --> 00:27:38.490 You'll actually see it's very funny. 00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:42.490 It'll be on this deck, this little presentation that we give. 00:27:42.490 --> 00:27:46.170 So I'll just do a brief overview of the master's in psychology program. 00:27:46.170 --> 00:27:48.750 Emily, I'll just ask you random questions in between. 00:27:49.425 --> 00:27:49.925 K? 00:27:51.745 --> 00:28:00.165 So the Weimer University, we started out with the psychological sciences in 1999, as a school as just a school for psychology. 00:28:00.385 --> 00:28:08.100 And in 2015, we expanded with the school of counseling, which is so now we are expanded to university status, Divine Mercy University. 00:28:08.560 --> 00:28:15.460 And we are accredited through SAC, which is an association of colleges and schools, to award masters and doctorate degrees. 00:28:16.005 --> 00:28:20.645 And this is doctor Julia Clousely, who is the program director for the MSP program. 00:28:20.645 --> 00:28:21.705 She is so kind. 00:28:21.845 --> 00:28:26.805 You can she is always able to reach out to students, and you're always able to reach out to her. 00:28:26.805 --> 00:28:34.050 You can even reach out to her now as a prospective student, and she would love to walk with you through what the MSE program entails. 00:28:35.950 --> 00:28:39.150 So, the classes are a 100% online. 00:28:39.150 --> 00:28:42.690 It's absolutely true, and classes really mainly are on your schedule. 00:28:42.830 --> 00:28:52.705 There are a few synchronous times where you get to meet with professors, but that's usually scheduled out the beginning of each class, and it's usually recorded as well, and you can watch it again later. 00:28:53.085 --> 00:28:59.740 We're built on the intuitive approach to psychology, which is we we read this textbook almost cover to cover. 00:28:59.740 --> 00:29:02.480 It's called the Catholic Christian mental model of the person. 00:29:03.020 --> 00:29:03.680 It's amazing. 00:29:03.820 --> 00:29:08.800 You get to learn, to view each person philosophically, theologically, and psychologically. 00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:13.865 We are made in image and likeness of but we have rational thought and emotions. 00:29:14.325 --> 00:29:15.925 But yet we have vocation. 00:29:15.925 --> 00:29:17.925 We have virtues to live out. 00:29:17.925 --> 00:29:20.825 How do we incorporate all of that into our lives? 00:29:21.525 --> 00:29:22.025 K? 00:29:22.565 --> 00:29:26.820 And we also have two completion tracks, which are sixteen and twenty six months. 00:29:26.820 --> 00:29:30.520 So just over a year versus, about two years. 00:29:31.380 --> 00:29:34.820 There's individualized feedback every week from the professors, and this was true. 00:29:34.820 --> 00:29:44.425 I'm very surprised how often they responded to every single thing that I that I, submitted, which I thought was really neat. 00:29:44.885 --> 00:29:46.585 Small student to faculty ratio. 00:29:47.365 --> 00:29:56.585 There's different kinds of learning modalities such as video, reading, interactions with students, and we also have very experienced and supportive faculty. 00:29:58.510 --> 00:30:02.270 So, honestly, the there are so many benefits in the MSE program. 00:30:02.270 --> 00:30:06.530 Honestly, for me, the the main benefit I got was really number one. 00:30:07.070 --> 00:30:12.370 You there was a lot of self reflection and a lot of, understanding about yourself. 00:30:12.915 --> 00:30:18.855 Because in order to help others, you should also be able to understand yourself so that you can help other people. 00:30:19.315 --> 00:30:25.395 And, my background actually before, while I was doing my MSP was I was in ministry. 00:30:25.395 --> 00:30:28.115 I was a sacraments coordinator, so I encountered families. 00:30:28.115 --> 00:30:32.750 I encountered kids, teenagers, and a lot of different kinds of situations. 00:30:32.810 --> 00:30:39.790 So I actually need to understand that I needed to be able to be a better leader, to be a better, minister to them. 00:30:40.250 --> 00:30:44.365 So for me, that was the best understanding I can get from this from this program. 00:30:45.145 --> 00:30:47.885 And you'll get this whole idea of concern called flourishing. 00:30:48.265 --> 00:30:52.845 Not only are you personally flourishing, but you're also learning how to help others flourish. 00:30:53.780 --> 00:30:56.420 Emily, what do you what was your the best benefit? 00:30:56.420 --> 00:30:57.700 I don't know if you already answered this. 00:30:57.700 --> 00:30:58.360 I apologize. 00:30:58.820 --> 00:31:00.920 The best benefit you got out of the MSP program? 00:31:01.460 --> 00:31:02.100 Oh, no. 00:31:02.100 --> 00:31:02.260 No. 00:31:02.260 --> 00:31:03.400 I didn't get that one. 00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:06.615 Yeah. 00:31:06.615 --> 00:31:06.855 Yeah. 00:31:06.855 --> 00:31:08.475 I really like this right up here, actually. 00:31:09.895 --> 00:31:14.075 I would say definitely several of them stick out. 00:31:15.095 --> 00:31:20.615 Personal and professional flourishing, resilient and welcoming environments of mental health care. 00:31:20.615 --> 00:31:20.935 Absolutely. 00:31:20.935 --> 00:31:21.255 That one. 00:31:21.255 --> 00:31:21.755 Yes. 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:26.160 Effect evaluating factors of programs. 00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:26.460 Yeah. 00:31:26.460 --> 00:31:43.825 I think I I left with both qualitative and quantitative skills in terms of noticing noticing needs, responding, and just having more compassion and empathy for the complexity of of humanity, which I kinda touched on a little earlier. 00:31:44.285 --> 00:31:49.505 And then personally, helps my marriage, helps me as a colleague, more empathy. 00:31:49.565 --> 00:31:49.885 Right? 00:31:49.885 --> 00:31:50.865 All these things. 00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:56.070 And, yeah, just kinda feeling very I feel very felt really connected Mhmm. 00:31:56.150 --> 00:32:03.690 Especially Divine Mercy, and I loved our our cohort of students, and just, yeah, just really unique relationships and experience. 00:32:04.605 --> 00:32:05.105 Absolutely. 00:32:05.245 --> 00:32:13.505 When you're talking about communication, I just remember two classes that we're going to talk I'm gonna talk about here shortly, which was relationship interventions and group counseling. 00:32:13.565 --> 00:32:24.840 And that was those are really challenging classes for me to be able to, work with people one on one, how to attend to people, how to show empathy, not necessarily sympathy. 00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.960 All of that was part of the MSP program. 00:32:28.580 --> 00:32:33.400 So there are several focuses and tracks, in the MSP program. 00:32:33.700 --> 00:32:37.715 As you can see, I'm right here, and Emily's right here too. 00:32:39.375 --> 00:32:40.595 They changed this deck. 00:32:40.735 --> 00:32:43.055 So we we we're official now. 00:32:43.055 --> 00:32:44.515 We we've graduated, Emily. 00:32:46.015 --> 00:32:46.835 We were there. 00:32:47.135 --> 00:32:47.875 We're there. 00:32:48.495 --> 00:33:02.100 So there are many there are many concentrations, marriage and family, human services, which I call sort of, like, the mini counseling track, leadership, pre PhD, self design where you can choose electives, and the bioethics track. 00:33:02.795 --> 00:33:04.175 There are eight core courses. 00:33:05.275 --> 00:33:13.775 So the intro to psychology here, developmental psychology, which was so impactful for me as someone who works with families always, psychopathology. 00:33:18.120 --> 00:33:21.820 Oh, give me a sec. 00:33:22.120 --> 00:33:23.500 I was working on something. 00:33:28.280 --> 00:33:29.100 It's gone. 00:33:30.885 --> 00:33:34.425 Are you doing the Yes. 00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:47.910 I apologize. 00:33:48.050 --> 00:33:48.790 One second. 00:33:57.375 --> 00:33:58.195 So sorry. 00:33:58.255 --> 00:34:08.755 The dongle psychology, psychopathology, cognition, emotion, motivation, locations and virtues, statistics class, social psychology, and research methodology. 00:34:14.040 --> 00:34:21.260 Here is marriage truck with the three electives for marriage, human sexuality, marriage interventions, family system. 00:34:22.775 --> 00:34:26.875 And this is really for people who want to help couples and families with flourishing. 00:34:28.375 --> 00:34:49.680 And then This is for those who want to sort of work more on people one on one, meeting human needs, doing social services, so relationship under them, personality, individual individual differences and intelligence, and group counseling. 00:34:52.515 --> 00:35:02.775 Then you have your three leadership courses designed for people who currently work in ministry or want to improve, their relationship with the with their coworkers and the people they work with. 00:35:03.580 --> 00:35:03.820 K. 00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:09.440 So transformational leadership, leading people, programs, and organizations that apply leadership skills are those electives. 00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:13.900 And this is the one I chose, actually. 00:35:13.900 --> 00:35:15.200 I chose self design. 00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:18.265 I did three different electives. 00:35:18.405 --> 00:35:24.105 I chose relationship intervention skills, transformational leadership, as well as group counseling. 00:35:24.725 --> 00:35:28.105 Emily, can you speak on maybe one or two of these tracks if you like? 00:35:30.020 --> 00:35:30.520 Yeah. 00:35:31.460 --> 00:35:39.700 So I guess I mentioned earlier, we we kind of were in the program when the concentrations were forming, so I also end up with what we call self design. 00:35:40.100 --> 00:35:48.455 If I were to do it again, I would probably do the human services, because I like the the quasi counseling, kind of practical courses. 00:35:49.395 --> 00:35:54.695 So, like, relationship intervention and then the group counseling group work were definitely some of my favorites. 00:35:56.595 --> 00:36:04.190 We did oh, but we did get a question from Nathan about counseling, but I see that you'll follow-up on that. 00:36:05.930 --> 00:36:15.205 So but, yeah, I really enjoyed all the courses for for different reasons, but they do bring, you know, work different parts of your brain, I felt like. 00:36:17.745 --> 00:36:22.245 And kind of to respond to you, Nathan, I know you'll get a further follow-up later. 00:36:23.105 --> 00:36:35.740 The program in MSP is not to become licensed in certain states, and, the Divine Mercy does offer a full on counseling program, which you can also explore. 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:50.445 But for my purposes, I didn't wanna become licensed, but I wanted to just generally become more adept in identifying, responding, and leading in different situations and being more attuned to the varied mental health needs that are out there. 00:36:52.265 --> 00:36:52.745 Awesome. 00:36:52.745 --> 00:36:53.805 Thank you so much. 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:58.740 I actually probably would have done the same thing because I've heard this class was amazing. 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.580 Personality, individual differences, and intelligence. 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:10.505 So, Nathan, I will, I will talk with you probably briefly that the master's in counseling program is with the licensure. 00:37:10.965 --> 00:37:12.345 It is twice as long. 00:37:12.725 --> 00:37:17.545 It's, 66, graduate hours with seven hundred hours of clinical. 00:37:18.085 --> 00:37:27.970 And it's very different from the master's in psychology program in which you are actually wanting to become more of the one on one restorative, restorative healing. 00:37:28.830 --> 00:37:29.230 K? 00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:31.250 Becoming a licensed practicing therapist. 00:37:35.325 --> 00:37:39.025 This is the pre PhD track where you actually get to finish a master's thesis. 00:37:39.485 --> 00:37:46.545 So instead of three electives, two of those electives will turn into thesis writing, and you also get one free elective. 00:37:47.970 --> 00:37:53.910 So if you want to do, like, PhD, this is, this is the track for you. 00:37:54.450 --> 00:37:59.510 And then the newest track we have so far yes. 00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:00.390 It's okay. 00:38:06.845 --> 00:38:20.950 This is the bioethics track, the newest track that we have, which is really for those who are working in health care or constantly engaging those, like, ethical ethical situations facing life, death, maybe vaccines, gender. 00:38:21.170 --> 00:38:22.370 So this is a great course. 00:38:22.370 --> 00:38:41.435 We also have we have a certificate course for this where you take a few of our core classes and finish out your nine credits of electives with through the NCBC, which is the NASA cash National Catholic Bioethics Center, or you can actually complete the full program and use those bioethics courses as your elective. 00:38:42.055 --> 00:38:47.540 This is a great new, partnership we just have we just gained just, I think, the end of last year. 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:56.560 So, again, the learning experience of the MSP is that you get the ability to work anywhere, anytime, and you have continuous access to online platform. 00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:04.945 I mean, while I was on vacation, I was able to bring download audio and and video on my phone, and it was really great to have that ability. 00:39:06.445 --> 00:39:14.625 We have five sensory learning points, different ways to learn during this program, and, again, your weekly individualized feedback from the professor. 00:39:15.570 --> 00:39:18.370 This is the core faculty of the MSP program. 00:39:18.370 --> 00:39:20.310 All of them are either PhDs or PsyD. 00:39:21.730 --> 00:39:24.610 And, of course, doctor Klausley, who is our MSP program director. 00:39:24.610 --> 00:39:27.670 I mean, I had a class from every single one of these professors. 00:39:29.145 --> 00:39:31.225 Emily was right along here with me. 00:39:31.385 --> 00:39:35.225 We all of them were really fantastic, and all of them have stood out to me. 00:39:35.225 --> 00:39:39.085 And then, also, when you start the MSP, you are assigned an adviser as well. 00:39:39.225 --> 00:39:41.085 My adviser was doctor Williamson. 00:39:41.970 --> 00:39:50.470 And just briefly, one of one of the one of the professors that just stood out to me was doctor Cusimano when when she did group counseling with me. 00:39:50.530 --> 00:39:55.785 I mean, my particular cohort was more introverted, and she was the extroverted professor. 00:39:55.785 --> 00:40:02.765 I don't know how else to explain this, but she was she just made group counseling as daunting as that class was really, really fun and engaging. 00:40:05.385 --> 00:40:09.245 So here are the general MSP acceptance requirement, bachelor's degree. 00:40:09.430 --> 00:40:22.890 Applicants must have a 2.5 GPA, two letters of recommendation, resume, two, two a written statement, of intent indicating how your goals are aligning with the goals of the program. 00:40:23.465 --> 00:40:34.045 Your total for I look for is if you are an international, or from a non native speaking country, and there's also a an a mandatory virtual orientation with the program. 00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:38.920 So, of course, is grad school affordable? 00:40:39.060 --> 00:40:43.560 Because we are accredited, we do, we do qualify for federal aid, so student loans. 00:40:44.260 --> 00:40:48.840 The re you can also check your employer if there's any tuition reimbursement for your employer. 00:40:49.225 --> 00:40:55.325 We have approved veteran funding through the GI Bill, and we have a lot of scholarships and grants where you can look it up on our website. 00:40:56.105 --> 00:41:05.370 Our, our university, after you apply, does one on one meetings with financial aid so they can help you figure out and determine all the scholarships and grants that are available to you. 00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:10.390 Alternative fund financing include private funds, any parish or diocesan support. 00:41:10.390 --> 00:41:17.290 You can really ask your parish, or your church if you have if they can help you fund your, your grad school. 00:41:17.805 --> 00:41:22.205 There are a lot of, Catholic nonprofits or even nonprofits in general that can help match funds. 00:41:22.205 --> 00:41:25.725 There are possible grant programs in your area and cash plans. 00:41:25.725 --> 00:41:28.365 So I was a full time student while I was sorry. 00:41:28.365 --> 00:41:30.705 A full time worker while I was a part time student. 00:41:31.100 --> 00:41:34.400 So I was able to set up monthly payment plans through DMU. 00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:40.160 So that was really helpful for me because it's also interest free, and it didn't hit the bank as hard. 00:41:40.780 --> 00:41:44.800 And, of and, of course, any other family assistance savings. 00:41:46.145 --> 00:41:49.205 So this is the direct cost tuition and fees for the program. 00:41:49.585 --> 00:41:52.465 850 per credit for 33 credit hours. 00:41:52.465 --> 00:41:53.685 That is 11 courses. 00:41:54.065 --> 00:42:00.130 Comes up to 28,000 with the tax fee, and the residency fee comes out to $28,008.50. 00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:02.130 But, of course, again, that's not all upfront. 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:08.130 That's paid out in time, and they'll only ask for the money that you're about for the classes you're about to take. 00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:10.070 Can I add some of that to Therese? 00:42:10.530 --> 00:42:11.030 Sure. 00:42:11.490 --> 00:42:13.510 You know, include your books. 00:42:14.045 --> 00:42:15.825 And It does include your books. 00:42:15.965 --> 00:42:16.465 Books. 00:42:16.525 --> 00:42:19.045 I mean, today, I mean, they're very, very expensive. 00:42:19.045 --> 00:42:24.145 I mean, you're looking 300 to $500 per book. 00:42:24.605 --> 00:42:31.540 So times 11 books, that's what, or $300, but this is included in the tuition. 00:42:32.240 --> 00:42:35.200 That's all I got to say about that. 00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:36.100 Thanks, Joe. 00:42:36.720 --> 00:42:37.040 Yes. 00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:39.220 This is all basically all in. 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.315 There's no there's no extra there's really no extra fees outside of I think graduation had some fees. 00:42:46.095 --> 00:42:48.195 Other than that, this is basically all inclusive. 00:42:50.255 --> 00:42:59.440 During the sixteen month track, which is, again, is the full time student route, will give you about a 25% discount on four courses, comes down to 25,500. 00:42:59.820 --> 00:43:04.380 And if you're doing the twenty six month course, which is the part time route, 28,050. 00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:11.615 So, really, the main difference is for the full time route, you're taking two classes at a time, and the twenty six months, you're taking one class at a time. 00:43:11.615 --> 00:43:20.995 Really great for our full time workers who want to keep working while gaining their degree and those who have the time to do the sixteenth the two classes at a time. 00:43:22.940 --> 00:43:25.520 That that the sixteen month track is great for you. 00:43:29.500 --> 00:43:30.000 Okay. 00:43:31.020 --> 00:43:35.200 So just in general, I'd love to I would love if there are any other questions. 00:43:35.580 --> 00:43:39.595 I mean, the MSC program was honestly really great for me. 00:43:39.895 --> 00:44:01.320 I was one of the things I never really got I got to go, realize that I was able to do was, you create a a project called a capstone project, and you research you research and you find a need locally to you, and you research and you create a solution for the for that problem. 00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:09.405 For example, when I was working in ministry, I was the first communion, coordinator, and I completely revamped the first communion program. 00:44:09.545 --> 00:44:11.725 Now you didn't have to implement it, but I did. 00:44:11.785 --> 00:44:28.020 I did a lot of research on, small group learning, developmental psychology that millennials are millennials and Gen z learn differently from, you know, gen, gen x and the baby boomers, for example. 00:44:28.640 --> 00:44:37.975 All of that culminated into this program where I now do parent information as well as children formation because I realized the kids don't care if the parents don't care. 00:44:38.115 --> 00:44:44.775 I created a whole new parent formation program for first communion, and it's still ongoing at my parish today. 00:44:45.795 --> 00:44:48.470 And then I I I would just love the MSP program so much. 00:44:48.470 --> 00:44:53.850 It taught me so much that I'm also now an admissions adviser for this program as well. 00:44:54.870 --> 00:44:58.730 Emily, do you wanna talk a little bit about, your experience with your capstone? 00:45:01.635 --> 00:45:02.115 Sure. 00:45:02.115 --> 00:45:18.600 So my capstone was about fertility awareness program for teenage girls, and I really enjoyed, you know, exploring this topic, because there's actually not a lot of research literature about this specific type of program for teens. 00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:28.360 There's only about, like, one other study that seems similar, so it was kinda exciting to to see that, and also, you know, develop a program. 00:45:28.745 --> 00:45:29.705 Again, it's in theory. 00:45:29.705 --> 00:45:36.665 I didn't actually, implement it, but I think it was a really good, challenge, I think, to not just yeah. 00:45:36.665 --> 00:45:39.545 I can kinda be, just an ideas person. 00:45:39.545 --> 00:45:40.585 So I was like, no. 00:45:40.585 --> 00:45:43.230 You have to implement this implement it. 00:45:43.230 --> 00:45:44.430 How are you gonna track it? 00:45:44.430 --> 00:45:46.770 How are you gonna see if it, was successful? 00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:47.710 So yeah. 00:45:47.710 --> 00:45:50.910 So from, like, start to finish, and you chip away at it in the program. 00:45:50.910 --> 00:45:53.630 So it's not overwhelming because it's course by course. 00:45:53.630 --> 00:45:54.110 Like, okay. 00:45:54.110 --> 00:45:56.450 This is this the snippet that you're gonna do. 00:45:56.685 --> 00:45:58.705 You get comments, and then you move along. 00:45:58.925 --> 00:46:02.305 So, by the end, you're definitely pleased with what you've created. 00:46:03.565 --> 00:46:07.085 But, yeah, that I don't know if that, yeah, kinda answers your question, Tracy. 00:46:07.085 --> 00:46:07.325 Yes. 00:46:07.325 --> 00:46:07.825 Perfectly. 00:46:08.125 --> 00:46:11.920 Because we had, we had so many different kinds of capstones. 00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:16.720 There was one that wanted to introduce special needs programs at at their parish. 00:46:17.100 --> 00:46:24.800 There was one that, wanted to look more into ongoing marriage education for elderly. 00:46:26.865 --> 00:46:32.325 There was so many kinds of Capstones out there, and it was just beautiful to actually see that. 00:46:33.905 --> 00:46:43.260 But you got to see everybody else's project evolve as well as you go through the program, and, actually, I thought that was really beautiful to see that. 00:46:43.260 --> 00:46:43.760 K? 00:46:44.060 --> 00:46:48.540 So if you're thinking about the master's psychology program, think about how what your goals are. 00:46:48.540 --> 00:46:54.005 Think about what you're looking to do in the next five years, what you what do you see yourself doing? 00:46:54.005 --> 00:47:02.425 Does it because it's asynchronous, you know, really think about whether or not you have the time and if it if you're able to work with it around your schedule. 00:47:04.725 --> 00:47:10.770 Think about the financial options discussed, and then think about and then we can also talk talk with you about with financial aid in that regard. 00:47:10.910 --> 00:47:14.690 And can you commit to the successful completion of the program if accepted? 00:47:15.470 --> 00:47:21.890 So for those that, are very interested in this program, we still have an early admission scholarship. 00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:23.570 Please go ahead. 00:47:24.225 --> 00:47:26.965 I will go we can go ahead and send you the application link. 00:47:27.025 --> 00:47:33.665 If you turn if you turn in your application, just the application, not not get necessarily, you know, the documentation yet. 00:47:33.665 --> 00:47:38.325 You could be eligible for a $1,500 scholarship, early admission scholarship. 00:47:41.490 --> 00:47:41.970 K. 00:47:41.970 --> 00:47:44.070 So the next start will be summer. 00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:47.650 May '21, somewhere in there. 00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:48.470 Mid May. 00:47:50.130 --> 00:47:51.810 Mid May will be the next start. 00:47:51.810 --> 00:47:53.745 The next start after that will be in August. 00:47:54.225 --> 00:47:58.245 We have three starts every year, January, May, and August. 00:47:58.385 --> 00:48:03.765 So you have that time to, really discern the timing that works out for you. 00:48:04.465 --> 00:48:13.100 So if you apply for May, I mean, we we have orientations that that are gonna get you ready for online learning. 00:48:14.040 --> 00:48:18.840 You know, some of you may have, you know, did online learning. 00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:19.560 That's great. 00:48:19.560 --> 00:48:21.160 Some of you have not. 00:48:21.160 --> 00:48:24.515 But, you know, we want you to know how to do it our way. 00:48:24.515 --> 00:48:32.675 And that's probably what Charice about, what, fifteen or twenty hours a week or, ten or fifteen hours a week on your own time. 00:48:32.675 --> 00:48:33.655 You think that? 00:48:33.715 --> 00:48:34.215 Emily? 00:48:34.515 --> 00:48:35.415 About the same? 00:48:36.195 --> 00:48:36.695 Nope. 00:48:37.930 --> 00:48:41.290 For orientation, to get you ready for online learning. 00:48:41.290 --> 00:48:44.010 So, I mean, we want to A few hours. 00:48:44.010 --> 00:48:44.510 Definitely. 00:48:45.130 --> 00:48:45.870 Every day. 00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:46.570 Okay. 00:48:46.570 --> 00:48:46.970 Alright. 00:48:46.970 --> 00:48:47.450 Very good. 00:48:47.450 --> 00:48:48.410 We got your time scales. 00:48:48.410 --> 00:48:50.350 I mean, because we want you to succeed. 00:48:50.810 --> 00:48:51.710 So Mhmm. 00:48:52.875 --> 00:48:53.195 Yes. 00:48:53.195 --> 00:48:58.975 I think the most the the most interesting part was getting to know the library, getting to know how to do AKA math. 00:48:59.115 --> 00:49:05.855 Writing was so intense, but that was part of the orientation. 00:49:08.770 --> 00:49:09.410 And don't worry. 00:49:09.410 --> 00:49:18.310 Professors are generally kind until towards probably the second or third class where they really start saying you really need to get your APA style down. 00:49:18.930 --> 00:49:20.310 But they're very they're kind. 00:49:22.015 --> 00:49:23.615 Then you feel so cool once you do know it. 00:49:23.615 --> 00:49:24.335 You're like, oh. 00:49:24.335 --> 00:49:25.075 Oh, exactly. 00:49:25.215 --> 00:49:27.615 I'm like, oh, I know how to reference everything. 00:49:27.615 --> 00:49:28.115 Yeah. 00:49:29.855 --> 00:49:40.450 I mean, once we got to the once we were able to figure out the library and how to know how to research, I mean, that was actually really fun to start reading through a lot of research on what's done on a particular topic. 00:49:41.710 --> 00:49:42.210 Yes. 00:49:42.350 --> 00:49:42.850 Really. 00:49:43.390 --> 00:49:43.890 Mhmm. 00:49:44.590 --> 00:49:46.530 Are there any other questions from the group? 00:49:47.150 --> 00:49:51.330 I apologize for my for my lateness and the technical issues here. 00:49:51.595 --> 00:50:10.030 That's you know, I always look at you know, I mean, psychology is something you gotta do from the heart to help people, but it's pretty much a superpower to to you know, you have to serve knowledge and understanding of you don't know so much. 00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:11.390 You'll tell them what to do. 00:50:11.390 --> 00:50:13.330 You you just ask them questions. 00:50:13.550 --> 00:50:14.210 You know? 00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:19.715 That is, you know, very true, and, I'll stop at that. 00:50:20.415 --> 00:50:20.815 Yes. 00:50:20.815 --> 00:50:22.195 Thank you so much, Joe. 00:50:22.655 --> 00:50:23.955 Is there no other questions? 00:50:24.175 --> 00:50:24.995 Oh my gosh. 00:50:25.135 --> 00:50:28.035 Thank you so much, Emily. 00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:29.470 Thank you. 00:50:29.470 --> 00:50:32.210 It's so great to see you so it's so great to see you again. 00:50:32.590 --> 00:50:33.090 Yay. 00:50:33.390 --> 00:50:34.030 You guys. 00:50:34.030 --> 00:50:34.510 Absolutely. 00:50:34.510 --> 00:50:35.490 Must catch up. 00:50:36.350 --> 00:50:37.570 Let's catch up with the group. 00:50:38.430 --> 00:50:39.230 So Alright. 00:50:39.710 --> 00:50:41.630 If there are no other questions, thank you so much. 00:50:41.630 --> 00:50:51.075 Feel, feel free to email me or Joe or any other, if you're interested, and happy to help you out in the admissions process. 00:50:51.615 --> 00:50:53.215 Thank you so much, Charisse. 00:50:53.215 --> 00:50:54.275 Thank you so much. 00:50:54.415 --> 00:50:54.975 Thanks, Joe. 00:50:54.975 --> 00:50:55.715 Thanks, Emily. 00:50:55.850 --> 00:50:56.250 Or me. 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:57.450 Feel free to email me. 00:50:57.450 --> 00:50:58.090 Bye bye. 00:50:58.090 --> 00:50:58.830 Thanks, Emily. 00:50:59.850 --> 00:51:00.350 Thanks. 00:51:00.890 --> 00:51:01.550 Bye, Emily. 00:51:02.090 --> 00:51:02.590 Bye.