WEBVTT 00:00:05.920 --> 00:00:10.260 Hello, and welcome to the PsyD webinar for Divine Mercy University. 00:00:11.280 --> 00:00:17.105 My name is Bradley Seifer, and I'm the PsyD admissions advisor, And joining me is Matthew Wen. 00:00:17.105 --> 00:00:21.685 He is a third a third year doctoral student at Stellan Mercy University. 00:00:22.545 --> 00:00:24.725 And so the format for yeah. 00:00:24.865 --> 00:00:25.685 I'm Matt. 00:00:26.385 --> 00:00:36.990 So the format for, our webinar today is we're going to go over a little bit of a a slideshow presentation, detailing the major aspects of the program. 00:00:37.290 --> 00:00:50.485 And then I'm gonna hand it over to Matthew, and then he's going to talk a bit about his experience as a student at Divine Mercy, and his story, sort of how he got interested in psychology and some of his, career plans. 00:00:50.705 --> 00:00:54.305 And then after that, we'll go over some questions that you guys have. 00:00:54.305 --> 00:01:04.260 So feel free as we go through this to drop any and all questions in the chat box as we go through, and we'll fill all the questions at the end. 00:01:04.260 --> 00:01:10.095 So, as we go through, drop the questions in the chat, and then we'll attend to them at the end. 00:01:10.095 --> 00:01:13.875 And so without further ado, let's get started, and I'll share my screen. 00:01:14.575 --> 00:01:15.075 Okay. 00:01:15.295 --> 00:01:20.275 So this is the overview of the doctor of clinical psychology at Divine Mercy University. 00:01:23.270 --> 00:01:25.930 This is me, Bradley, the admissions advisor. 00:01:27.830 --> 00:01:28.150 Okay. 00:01:28.150 --> 00:01:32.890 So Divine Mercy University is a Catholic institution comprised of two schools. 00:01:33.270 --> 00:01:39.135 It's dedicated to the scientific study of psychology with a Catholic Christian understanding of the person, marriage, and family. 00:01:39.675 --> 00:01:43.695 It was founded in 1999 as the Institute for the Psychological Sciences. 00:01:44.635 --> 00:01:52.340 And in 2014, the Institute launched its MS in psychology program online with its focus on educating working professionals. 00:01:53.120 --> 00:02:00.020 In 2015, IPS was is renamed Divine Mercy University with the addition of the school of counseling. 00:02:02.255 --> 00:02:04.095 So as you can see, this is a diagram. 00:02:04.095 --> 00:02:07.715 It just sort of shows you what I just mentioned, namely that we're a university. 00:02:07.935 --> 00:02:08.975 We have two schools. 00:02:08.975 --> 00:02:13.875 We have school counseling, and school and the Institute for the Psychological Sciences. 00:02:14.330 --> 00:02:26.430 The School of Counseling is chiefly online, though it's also hybrid in the sense that our counseling students come in for about a week toward their end of their training to come on campus for clinical work. 00:02:27.075 --> 00:02:39.015 And within the Institute for the Psychological Sciences, we have the doctoral program, which we're going to discuss today, and that is a residential program, and then the master's of psychology, which is exclusively online. 00:02:41.760 --> 00:02:42.260 Alright. 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:58.065 So our mission is, to provide students with an effective academic and educational environment that supports the integration of the psychological sciences and the Catholic Christian understanding of the person and to prepare students to respond to their vocation as mental health professionals. 00:03:01.405 --> 00:03:08.225 We are located in Sterling, Virginia, which is, as you might say, a suburb of Washington, DC. 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:14.040 We are well located in the sense that we have much to do to the West and to the East. 00:03:14.040 --> 00:03:15.660 To the West, we have mountains. 00:03:15.720 --> 00:03:17.820 We have vine we have, vineyards. 00:03:18.600 --> 00:03:24.300 We have wetland rafting, lots of hiking and outdoors, outdoorsy kind of activities. 00:03:24.895 --> 00:03:26.675 In the in the winter, there's skiing. 00:03:26.975 --> 00:03:35.055 To the East, we have lots of cultural opportunities in the Washington area, artistic, cultural, and museums, that kind of thing. 00:03:35.055 --> 00:03:38.870 So, there truly is, something for everyone. 00:03:39.010 --> 00:03:42.070 Matthew, could you speak a little bit to your experience in this area? 00:03:45.650 --> 00:03:46.150 Absolutely. 00:03:46.210 --> 00:03:51.970 I've been living here for about, a year now, and, there's just so much to do. 00:03:51.970 --> 00:03:54.485 I mean, DC is right right over there. 00:03:54.625 --> 00:03:58.565 It's about forty minute drive from the school itself. 00:03:59.185 --> 00:04:11.900 And, like Riley was saying, there's something to do for every type of environment or anything that you would like to do, in less than an hour from from the school. 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:15.240 So if you wanna go hiking, you go west for an hour. 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.565 If you wanna go to the city, you go east for half an hour. 00:04:19.565 --> 00:04:19.885 Right? 00:04:19.885 --> 00:04:26.065 If you wanna visit a whole another state with its own things, Maryland, just go north for about half an hour as well. 00:04:26.925 --> 00:04:28.445 There's a lot of great restaurants. 00:04:28.445 --> 00:04:32.925 I have a Google Maps full of restaurants, that that I love eating out here. 00:04:32.925 --> 00:04:37.300 And, DC is great because, you know, all the Smithsonians are free. 00:04:37.300 --> 00:04:40.820 You get to visit those every once in a while, and just a good time. 00:04:40.820 --> 00:04:45.880 It's it's it's a very, very cozy place, very safe, very family friendly for sure. 00:04:46.375 --> 00:04:47.835 Well, thanks, Matt. 00:04:49.175 --> 00:04:51.275 So this is a bit about our accreditation. 00:04:52.215 --> 00:04:55.015 We are thoroughly accredited by a number of agencies. 00:04:55.015 --> 00:05:00.600 So first, we are institutionally accredited by SAPS, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. 00:05:00.980 --> 00:05:09.960 SAPS is recognized as an accrediting agency of colleges and schools by the Department of Education, and DMU has voluntarily participated in the accrediting process. 00:05:10.275 --> 00:05:13.255 It has met or exceeded all standards and thorough evaluations. 00:05:13.955 --> 00:05:18.295 It's also been approved by SHEV, the State Council of Higher Education in Virginia. 00:05:18.915 --> 00:05:27.450 And the PsyD program has been recognized since 2006 as a national registered designation program by the Association of State and Provisional Psychology Boards. 00:05:28.470 --> 00:05:38.410 The signing program has been accredited by the APA, the American Psychological Association, since 2016, and that's a very, it's a very important, accreditation aspect. 00:05:38.745 --> 00:05:45.145 And then the Duane University University has been approved to participate in the National Council for State Authorization reciprocity agreement. 00:05:45.145 --> 00:05:52.125 So as you can see, we are thoroughly accredited by a number of different accrediting agencies, including the APA. 00:05:54.540 --> 00:05:55.040 Okay. 00:05:55.260 --> 00:06:11.445 So clinical psychology is the psychological specialty that provides continuing and comprehensive mental and behavioral health care for individuals and families, consultation to agencies and communities, training, education, and supervision, and research based practice. 00:06:14.865 --> 00:06:21.285 So this slide indicates, it's sort of a, outline, you might say, of the structure of our program. 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:28.140 It's a 100 and twenty three credit hours, which includes a master's of psychology en route to the doctor of psychology. 00:06:28.200 --> 00:06:39.755 And what that means is after the first two years of study, after 60 credits have been completed, students are awarded a master's of psychology degree en route to the doctorate. 00:06:40.295 --> 00:06:45.595 And it's after the first years, it's three years thereafter for a total of five years for the doctorate. 00:06:46.295 --> 00:06:48.875 And it is on-site, as we've said, in Sterling, Virginia. 00:06:49.710 --> 00:06:54.130 And this does prepare ultimately for licensure as a clinical psychologist. 00:06:54.910 --> 00:06:59.170 Now in the first year, students will have classes, and they begin dissertation research. 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:06.995 And then in the second year, classes continue, but this is where the clinical externship begins. 00:07:06.995 --> 00:07:11.815 And so that's an on campus, clinical, supervision. 00:07:11.875 --> 00:07:22.180 The so in other words, students will be they'll have a faculty supervisor, and so their interactions with patients will be supervised and scrutinized by faculty members. 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:24.180 But in year two, there's still coursework. 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.420 And and in year three and four, there's also coursework, but it's somewhat less. 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.315 And there's more, excuse me, clinical hours. 00:07:32.535 --> 00:07:43.560 And then in year five, that's when students go off campus to a, internship off campus where they go through more clinical training, and there's no classes at that period. 00:07:44.520 --> 00:07:50.860 And then usually between years four and five, there's a, they defend their dissertation. 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.740 So that's, towards the end of the program. 00:07:53.960 --> 00:08:12.900 And then so but in the fifth year, the, internship off campus are students we have a 100% placement into, APA accredited sites, which have included, things like Saint Elizabeth's, hospital in DC, the psychiatric hospital of Washington, and the Virginia Medical Center. 00:08:13.540 --> 00:08:18.280 Matthew, can you speak a little bit more to this structure and your experience with it? 00:08:20.260 --> 00:08:20.760 Sure. 00:08:20.820 --> 00:08:27.885 So like you were saying, Bradley, during year one, it's all class all class loads throughout the semester. 00:08:28.185 --> 00:08:32.605 So you'll have about five or six classes per semester for the first two semesters. 00:08:34.425 --> 00:08:42.640 Between one and two, you'll also be expected to attend a summer semester, which only has two or three classes during that time. 00:08:42.640 --> 00:08:45.140 And it'll typically goes for a month and a half. 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:53.460 As the years go on, the classes reduce in size and the time externship increases in size. 00:08:53.735 --> 00:09:08.220 So this graph is, a little misleading as the, like, year two, will still have about five courses per semester along with one or two clients you might see, at the IPS center. 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:21.885 And then year three, which is the year I'm in right now, I only have about three or four classes per semester, and I'll be spending about two or three days seeing about eight to 10 clients, per per semester. 00:09:22.665 --> 00:09:29.405 By year four, that reduces to one day a week, of classes, and then the rest of the week is externship. 00:09:29.785 --> 00:09:40.630 And then by year five, there's no classes like it says right there, and you're only doing basically just work, working with clients and finishing your participation, if need be. 00:09:41.090 --> 00:09:43.170 I'm trying to finish up by the end of year four, though. 00:09:43.170 --> 00:09:43.650 So Yeah. 00:09:43.730 --> 00:09:44.470 For me. 00:09:44.530 --> 00:09:44.850 No. 00:09:44.850 --> 00:09:45.170 Sure. 00:09:45.170 --> 00:09:45.650 Yeah. 00:09:45.650 --> 00:09:47.590 Well, I hope you I hope you do just that. 00:09:48.290 --> 00:09:49.010 Thanks, Matt. 00:09:49.010 --> 00:09:50.870 You that's quite helpful. 00:09:52.005 --> 00:09:52.325 Alright. 00:09:52.325 --> 00:09:56.505 So things to consider, is the PsyD program right for you? 00:09:56.645 --> 00:10:01.545 Do you want to help people flourish while you're interested in the science behind human behavior? 00:10:01.925 --> 00:10:05.625 Do you want to become an instrument of healing through the psychological sciences? 00:10:06.300 --> 00:10:11.760 Are you interested in performing psychological tests and assessments to diagnose your clients and create treatment plans? 00:10:12.140 --> 00:10:17.680 Are you looking to start a career as a licensed mental health professional, but specifically as a clinical psychologist? 00:10:18.775 --> 00:10:21.515 So questions to think about as you discern. 00:10:23.975 --> 00:10:24.455 Alright. 00:10:24.455 --> 00:10:31.890 So these are the chief areas of competency that we aim to achieve through the PsyD program, and there are six of them. 00:10:31.890 --> 00:10:44.630 So foundations in psychological sciences and research, integrity and practice, assessment and diagnosis, therapeutic intervention, professional roles, and clinical practice from a Catholic and integrative perspective. 00:10:45.185 --> 00:11:00.870 And so, the first five are standard in PsyD programs, but, at Time Mercy, we have this six, this, clinical practice from a Catholic perspective, really kind of, is our, you know, our trademark in a way. 00:11:00.870 --> 00:11:11.370 It it, orders and sort of directs the, you might say, the rest of the program toward, you know, understanding the human person and image of God and that kind of thing. 00:11:12.705 --> 00:11:12.945 Alright. 00:11:12.945 --> 00:11:16.405 So let's take a look at each one of these goals in particular. 00:11:16.865 --> 00:11:20.485 So the first one, foundations in psychological science and research. 00:11:20.865 --> 00:11:35.570 Graduates will attain foundational psychological science knowledge of biological, cognitive, effective, social, and developmental aspects of the human person as well as history and systems of psychology, psychological measurement, research design, and statistical method. 00:11:35.870 --> 00:11:40.050 Graduates will have the skills necessary to conduct their own psychological research. 00:11:40.995 --> 00:11:42.535 Two, integrity and practice. 00:11:42.915 --> 00:11:50.535 Graduates will be knowledgeable in areas of diversity and ethics and display critical thinking, self aware and reflective practice, and self care. 00:11:50.755 --> 00:11:56.430 Graduates will demonstrate responsiveness, supervision, collegiality, and professional comportment and professional practice. 00:11:59.710 --> 00:12:01.490 Three, assessment and diagnosis. 00:12:02.110 --> 00:12:19.035 Graduates will be able to conduct clinical interviewing, perform intake evaluation, demonstrate knowledge in the administration, scoring, interpretation of psychological assessment, integrate multiple sources of test data and clinical interview information into a written report, diagnose and develop a treatment plan. 00:12:19.255 --> 00:12:21.115 And four, therapeutic intervention. 00:12:21.575 --> 00:12:34.170 Graduates will be able to demonstrate case conceptualization, treatment planning, building and maintaining a therapeutic relationship, psychotherapy skills, crisis management of urgent and special circumstances, and discharge planning. 00:12:36.230 --> 00:12:37.610 Five, professional roles. 00:12:38.125 --> 00:12:48.305 Graduates will be able to function in a variety of required roles of professional psychologists to include consultants, educator, supervisor, practice manager, and program evaluator. 00:12:48.765 --> 00:12:52.705 They'll be able to work collaboratively within interdisciplinary teams and with clients. 00:12:53.325 --> 00:12:56.920 Six, clinical practice from a Catholic interpretive perspective. 00:12:57.620 --> 00:13:07.960 Graduates will have developed a Catholic understanding of human flourishing and individual person in marriage and family life and be able to integrate this with the psychological sciences in clinical practice. 00:13:10.815 --> 00:13:11.135 Alright. 00:13:11.135 --> 00:13:14.015 So these are some sample employment tracks. 00:13:14.015 --> 00:13:20.995 There are many, many things you can do with, a doctorate in clinical psychology, but these are just a few of them. 00:13:21.160 --> 00:13:37.735 So, obviously, being a licensed clinical psychologist, but also being a clinic director, a psychiatric technician, a psychiatric crisis unit interviewer, community health, mental social community health, mental health social worker, drug abuse social worker, certified alcohol or drug counselors, therapist. 00:13:37.735 --> 00:13:40.235 So there's as you can see, there's many others. 00:13:41.495 --> 00:13:46.875 And, really, one of the strengths, I would say, of our program is a general program in psychology. 00:13:47.610 --> 00:13:55.710 So you'll be able to find the areas within psychology that you think are most interesting and go and go into those things. 00:13:56.650 --> 00:14:03.145 You know, we'll have graduates that will be in hospitals, that will have practices and clinics of their own. 00:14:03.145 --> 00:14:09.485 Some will decide to work with, other mental health workers such as social workers or counselors. 00:14:09.545 --> 00:14:13.705 Others, will end up working with psychologists and and hospitals. 00:14:13.705 --> 00:14:20.180 So it really there really is a plethora of things that one can do, with clinical psychology. 00:14:22.160 --> 00:14:22.660 Alright. 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.020 So these are a few testimonials from our alumni. 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:32.455 James Walovich has said, in our clinical psychology program, the training is focused on healing the whole person. 00:14:32.915 --> 00:14:41.015 Kristen Long has said, I was drawn to this IB program, a desire to help to serve others in a more profound way than my previous positions offer. 00:14:41.490 --> 00:14:50.070 Timothy White, this school is not afraid to teach you what it means to be human at every level, psychologically, philosophically, and theologically, and that's why I like it. 00:14:50.210 --> 00:14:53.430 Then Kirsten Curtis has said, I'm so thankful for DMU. 00:14:53.865 --> 00:14:58.605 The faculty members are very supportive and receive a lot of hands on clinical experience. 00:14:58.905 --> 00:15:01.485 So lots of happy alumni. 00:15:03.705 --> 00:15:04.105 Okay. 00:15:04.105 --> 00:15:13.080 This is a short YouTube video of one of our, alumni, William Johnson, who has carryout research on PTSD. 00:15:21.540 --> 00:15:21.780 Hi. 00:15:21.780 --> 00:15:30.565 My name is William Johnston, and I'm a PsyD student at Divine Mercy University, currently approaching the end of my third year in the program. 00:15:31.105 --> 00:15:38.960 Military service runs in my family and, and so both my grandparents served. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.420 My parents both served. 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:55.995 This door, the PsyD program at Divine Mercy University opened the opportunity for me to continue to get back to conduct research and hopefully implement a more robust program to treat PTSD as it relates to combat veterans. 00:15:56.775 --> 00:16:18.625 DMU has certainly provided the integration that I saw in terms of my formation, both the philosophy and theology core, in addition to the psychology curriculum, has provided me growth in terms of my faith, and my role as a husband and father, and of course, a psychological clinician. 00:16:19.885 --> 00:16:29.985 So in essence, the Catholic Christian meta model of the human person is is why I'm here, both for my own sake as well as the sake of my future clients. 00:16:39.560 --> 00:16:39.960 Okay. 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:47.605 And then we have another, we have another video from another alumnae, giving her testimony of DMU. 00:16:55.745 --> 00:17:03.540 I would say that being a student at DUY University or DMU is one of the best things that happens to me. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:09.140 I really appreciate a great support from faculty members and also classmates. 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:17.685 I have gained a great deal of knowledge in all aspects of clinical practice, research, and also professional development. 00:17:18.465 --> 00:17:26.085 DMU not only provides students with strong academic skills, but also prepares them for a career in psychology. 00:17:27.030 --> 00:17:33.210 I personally benefit from mentorship with academic advisor and clinical supervisors. 00:17:33.830 --> 00:17:45.545 As a person, what I most appreciate from DMU is that its mission helped broaden my perspectives in understanding a human person through the lens of Catholicism. 00:17:46.485 --> 00:17:59.250 Catholic principle, especially in hope, love, and faith, are very valuable and certainly helped me become a better clinician. 00:18:04.990 --> 00:18:05.490 Okay. 00:18:05.950 --> 00:18:12.145 With that, let's move on, to our faculty. 00:18:13.245 --> 00:18:17.265 So this is a selection of our many faculty members. 00:18:18.045 --> 00:18:22.545 So the top left, we have doctor Lisa Kloecki, who is our PsyD program director. 00:18:23.340 --> 00:18:27.280 She is a specialist in adults, adolescent, and couples therapy. 00:18:27.740 --> 00:18:34.320 To her right is doctor Diane Graves, who's the assistant program director, and she is a specialist in child and developmental psychology. 00:18:35.045 --> 00:18:39.545 And to her right, doctor Anna Pecororo specializes in addiction and trauma. 00:18:39.845 --> 00:18:48.105 And the three gentlemen on the bottom are the are among the founding faculty members of Divine Mercy, formerly IPS. 00:18:49.070 --> 00:18:53.870 So doctor Scriffani is a specialist in cognitive behavioral therapy and group therapy. 00:18:53.870 --> 00:18:58.050 Doctor Nordling, specializes in child marriage and family therapy. 00:18:58.270 --> 00:19:07.185 And doctor Vitz, the senior scholar, and professor is a specialist on the integration between Christian theology and psychology. 00:19:07.405 --> 00:19:19.710 So we have, this is just a a sampling of many other faculty members that have specialties and expertise amongst practically every single, major field within psychology. 00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:23.630 So, really, you're in good hands with our faculty. 00:19:25.610 --> 00:19:25.930 Okay. 00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:27.390 This is a bit about licensing. 00:19:28.010 --> 00:19:29.710 So is licensing required? 00:19:30.375 --> 00:19:36.395 A license to practice is required by each state and or jurisdiction where individuals might practice as a counselor. 00:19:37.095 --> 00:19:37.575 When? 00:19:37.575 --> 00:19:43.595 Licensing process begins after the student completes the practicum and internship and officially graduates from DMU. 00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:47.630 States can and often do have additional and differing requirements. 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:52.990 Students are responsible for checking state requirements where they plan to work and adhere to them. 00:19:53.290 --> 00:19:55.950 These typically include national and state exams. 00:19:56.465 --> 00:20:00.965 And DMU will provide general information related to licensure during the student experience. 00:20:01.505 --> 00:20:03.045 So who initiates licensing? 00:20:03.905 --> 00:20:13.650 Licensing is a student driven process, and it's important for the student to begin research or licensing requirements in the state he or she intends to work in as early in the program as possible. 00:20:14.430 --> 00:20:16.930 Will the students be fully licensed after graduation? 00:20:17.230 --> 00:20:17.730 No. 00:20:17.950 --> 00:20:24.850 Students must work approximately one year in a supervised clinical environment in addition to other state requirements to be licensed. 00:20:25.455 --> 00:20:31.395 And the graduate may be required to obtain a provisional license for this year period, and be sure to check your state for requirements. 00:20:31.935 --> 00:20:34.355 Matthew, is there something that you wanted to add to this? 00:20:36.895 --> 00:20:40.515 I know this is a lot of information, for one slide. 00:20:41.840 --> 00:20:56.180 And a lot of this, happens after you graduate, after you get your your degree and you have couple hundred hours of face to face hours, on your belt. 00:20:57.195 --> 00:21:06.495 You you'll go back to your state individually, wherever you wanna start practicing, and, finish up the rest of the hours maybe in a postdoc, if that makes sense. 00:21:06.795 --> 00:21:13.710 And then, finish up, kind of like one last big test, and then you'll get your license. 00:21:14.570 --> 00:21:20.350 A lot of people are confused about what the license even does or, like, what it is. 00:21:20.890 --> 00:21:24.430 And at the end of this program, you don't automatically get a license. 00:21:24.615 --> 00:21:26.155 Those are given by the state. 00:21:26.455 --> 00:21:26.695 Mhmm. 00:21:27.015 --> 00:21:33.435 But this this program does prepare you well, to to receive that as soon as possible after graduation. 00:21:34.695 --> 00:21:35.195 Okay. 00:21:35.255 --> 00:21:35.815 Fair enough. 00:21:35.815 --> 00:21:36.555 Thank you. 00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:39.300 Okay. 00:21:39.300 --> 00:21:45.320 So this, these are two graphs that indicate or show the difference between investments. 00:21:45.940 --> 00:21:54.345 So on the one hand, something like a car investment, something material, will often depreciate rapidly after you make that investments. 00:21:54.725 --> 00:21:59.945 So you drive the car up a lot, and a few years thereafter, it has a lot less value. 00:22:00.085 --> 00:22:07.480 Whereas, when you're investing in education, in your mind, your, your investment is going to appreciate. 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:08.540 It's going to grow. 00:22:08.600 --> 00:22:17.800 Your value as a, excuse me, as a clinical psychologist will grow throughout your career, because you will be become an expert. 00:22:17.800 --> 00:22:27.165 You'll be grow in experience and knowledge in a certain area within psychology, and so you'll have more to contribute to whatever field that may be. 00:22:29.625 --> 00:22:29.945 Okay. 00:22:29.945 --> 00:22:34.460 This slide is a bit about the financial side of, the investment. 00:22:34.460 --> 00:22:38.460 So it is 1,095 per credit at a 122 credits. 00:22:38.460 --> 00:22:45.280 This is a $133.05 90 in total, and that does not include in include fees and indirect expenses. 00:22:45.925 --> 00:22:57.785 As you can see, there are many different options for funding the education, including, federal aid, William d Ford, federal student direct loan program, the Stafford Loan, the Graduate Plus Loan. 00:22:58.060 --> 00:23:01.820 And this is important that the financial aid department will work with you. 00:23:01.820 --> 00:23:11.280 So once you submit your application to the doctoral program, the financial aid department will be in contact with you shortly thereafter and on an individual basis. 00:23:12.025 --> 00:23:14.765 Also, noteworthy is our assistantships. 00:23:15.065 --> 00:23:19.965 So a number of our students, do sort of sort of, like, work study programs. 00:23:20.025 --> 00:23:23.965 So they'll come, and work for different departments within the university. 00:23:24.265 --> 00:23:30.380 For example, we have some, sports study students in our financial aid excuse me, the admissions department. 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.780 And then in the business office, we have other students that are doing the same thing. 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:40.940 So there are different ways to, you know, work on a part time basis on campus. 00:23:41.455 --> 00:23:48.675 And then there's other alternative financing plans indicated down here, cash plans, private funds, different things of that nature. 00:23:48.735 --> 00:23:52.355 Also, of worthy of note is the MOUs. 00:23:52.815 --> 00:24:09.330 So, for for those, you know, that have connections perhaps or could establish connections with the diocese, let's say, if you're Catholic, you could, arrange for, you know, the diocese to pay for part of your education provided that you come back and work for them after graduation. 00:24:10.425 --> 00:24:10.985 Things like this. 00:24:10.985 --> 00:24:15.965 So there are different options to explore, when funding this kind of investment. 00:24:16.585 --> 00:24:21.645 But then but, again, the financial department will be in touch with you once you complete the application. 00:24:23.550 --> 00:24:35.870 These are some of our, scholarships on offer on offer, and they range from, you know, different amounts as you can see indicated on the right hand side, and they apply to different people. 00:24:35.870 --> 00:24:45.575 So, for example, the Faith and Hope scholarship is for clergy, or the Christendom scholarship, as you might surmise, is for Christendom students. 00:24:46.275 --> 00:24:56.560 But the but a lot there's really most likely, you'll be able to apply to a number of these, and you can apply to a maximum of four and receive up to two. 00:24:57.260 --> 00:25:00.560 So that's also an option that you should definitely consider. 00:25:03.535 --> 00:25:04.035 Alright. 00:25:04.175 --> 00:25:06.915 So this is a bit about entrance requirements. 00:25:07.055 --> 00:25:16.035 So a baccalaureate degree from a regional accredited or internationally recognized school is required, and an undergraduate degree in psychology is preferred. 00:25:16.410 --> 00:25:25.290 So that means that students without any undergraduate, training in psychology will be required to complete a prerequisite course during the first year of the program. 00:25:25.290 --> 00:25:31.470 That's typically online, and it's concurrent with the other classes that students take during the first year. 00:25:31.755 --> 00:25:35.935 And then we do require a minimum GPA of three on a four o scale. 00:25:36.075 --> 00:25:42.475 And then applicants with a GPA of less than three o may be considered for application on a case by case basis. 00:25:42.475 --> 00:25:51.070 So if you're really close to that three o, go ahead and get in touch with me, and we can see what steps can be taken moving forward. 00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:53.630 Okay. 00:25:53.850 --> 00:25:56.590 This slide is a bit about the application process. 00:25:56.650 --> 00:25:59.790 So the first step is to complete the application online. 00:26:00.495 --> 00:26:05.955 And then two, our financial aid office, as I mentioned before, will be working with you upon receipt of the application. 00:26:06.415 --> 00:26:10.195 And then consistent communication is maintained consistently thereafter. 00:26:10.575 --> 00:26:22.100 And then once students are once the documents of all that is the documents for the entire application are submitted, the competitive applicants will be invited to interview on the site that is on campus. 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:31.855 And then all applicants will hear back the admission decision by mid February, and the program will begin in August 2013, so about a year from now. 00:26:34.315 --> 00:26:34.815 Alright. 00:26:35.195 --> 00:26:37.855 So, how to complete your application package. 00:26:38.600 --> 00:26:40.760 The online application form is the first thing. 00:26:40.760 --> 00:26:43.000 So the first part is an online app. 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:49.660 It's a $55 application fee, and the second are your essays and your resume, which can be submitted later. 00:26:50.840 --> 00:26:56.595 Moreover, we do require three letters of recommendation, two of which must be academic in nature. 00:26:57.055 --> 00:27:09.720 So if you can find faculty members that you've had from undergrad or if you have a graduate degree, find professors that know you and that can recommend you to doctoral studies in psychology. 00:27:10.580 --> 00:27:15.700 And then one can be, less academic in nature and more, personal. 00:27:15.700 --> 00:27:22.965 So for instance, if you know a priest that knows you well and can speak to your personal strengths, that would be a good idea. 00:27:23.345 --> 00:27:32.805 And then, of course, official transcripts from all post secondary institutions, so, you know, college and if you went to a graduate program, graduate school as well. 00:27:33.025 --> 00:27:38.390 And then the official GRE test scores need to be sent to DMU, and there's our our code. 00:27:38.610 --> 00:27:42.950 And they do have to be up to date, so within the past five years is, required. 00:27:45.410 --> 00:27:45.730 Okay. 00:27:45.730 --> 00:27:49.170 This is a bit about, information for international students. 00:27:49.170 --> 00:27:53.190 This doesn't apply to everyone, but for international students, this can be helpful. 00:27:53.435 --> 00:28:00.575 So for international applicants and applicants whose bachelor's degree was earned at an institution outside of The US, please keep this in mind. 00:28:00.795 --> 00:28:13.050 Applicants holding degrees from outside The US must submit an international transcript to an an ACEs approved evaluation service, such as West dot org, for a course by course evaluation of their transcripts. 00:28:13.430 --> 00:28:21.690 Applicants holding degrees from outside The United States must demonstrate postsecondary education that is at a minimum equivalent to a US bachelor's degree. 00:28:21.925 --> 00:28:26.105 And if the credential is not in English, the credential must be translated into English. 00:28:26.325 --> 00:28:29.945 And the cost for this evaluation will be responsibility of the student. 00:28:30.485 --> 00:28:34.665 Applicants whose primary language is not English may also need to take the TOEFL. 00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:38.430 Okay. 00:28:38.570 --> 00:28:40.190 So that's all I have for you. 00:28:40.490 --> 00:28:48.110 At this point, I'm going to, stop my share and transfer over to Matthew. 00:28:48.410 --> 00:28:54.945 He's gonna speak a little bit to his own experience, getting into psychology and his own experience here at Divine Mercy. 00:28:54.945 --> 00:28:56.725 So, Matthew, it's the floor is yours. 00:28:57.905 --> 00:28:58.145 Great. 00:28:58.145 --> 00:28:58.965 Thanks, Bradley. 00:29:00.385 --> 00:29:04.625 So like, like you guys know, my name is Matthew Nguyen. 00:29:04.625 --> 00:29:08.370 I am a third year in the PsyD program here at Divine Mercy. 00:29:09.310 --> 00:29:11.890 So the PsyD program is entirely in person. 00:29:12.430 --> 00:29:16.050 The first year was kind of hybrid because of COVID and the pandemic. 00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:29.665 And so I was, I I was doing some part time work and also taking the classes online so I would have to zoom in every single day, to to attend the classes and whatnot. 00:29:29.665 --> 00:29:38.200 But I finished my second year here in full person, in full in person, and then I'm starting my third year. 00:29:38.500 --> 00:29:41.880 So just a little bit about how I personally got into psychology. 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:47.640 I, was originally went to be a priest actually. 00:29:48.265 --> 00:29:53.005 I was in the seminary for a year and I had taken psychology as an undergrad. 00:29:55.305 --> 00:30:09.460 And I I was at a Catholic school actually when, Saint Martin's University in Lacey, Washington, Doing all of, the psychology courses out there really opened my my mind to oh my gosh. 00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:24.975 Like, everything that's, is happening this in this somewhat very secular world of the field of psychology is matching up with a lot of my beliefs, and my faith and and what we understand to be true about the human person. 00:30:25.675 --> 00:30:30.330 It really intrigued me and really kind of opened my eyes into it's like, okay. 00:30:30.330 --> 00:30:32.730 This is a pursuit of truth. 00:30:32.730 --> 00:30:34.030 This is a pursuit of goodness. 00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:36.250 And I I'm kind of interested in this. 00:30:36.250 --> 00:30:38.490 I kinda want to look into this more. 00:30:38.490 --> 00:30:46.115 And how can this be used to serve people on on a real level, on a on a genuine, loving, and charitable level? 00:30:46.975 --> 00:30:57.800 As I spent some time in the seminary and discerned a little bit more, I felt that God was calling me to pursue psychology, as a full time kind of job. 00:30:58.420 --> 00:31:05.940 And so after discerning out, like, divine mercy came up and, here I am. 00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:28.210 And as I'm taking classes, and learning just more and more about all these all the findings within the scientific world psychology, but at the same time, in congruence taking classes of philosophy and theology here, and just integrating this idea that, oh, wow. 00:31:28.210 --> 00:31:28.530 Yes. 00:31:28.530 --> 00:31:30.930 We are mind, body, and soul. 00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:35.250 Let's not forget about the mind and the body as we focus on the soul. 00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:35.750 Right? 00:31:36.930 --> 00:31:41.495 And so a lot of great professors, a lot of good things that we're learning here. 00:31:42.515 --> 00:31:47.555 I've got a lot of great skills under my belt, and I've been seeing clients for about a year now. 00:31:47.555 --> 00:31:56.550 I'm going into my second year seeing clients at my new externship, which is a local mental health clinic, in the area. 00:31:57.410 --> 00:32:02.630 Really excited to to get that going, and seeing the people in this community here. 00:32:03.730 --> 00:32:09.205 If you guys have any questions about anything, feel free to reach out to me, and Bradley, of course. 00:32:09.665 --> 00:32:13.845 But it does look like, Bradley, we had we had a question come up during your presentation. 00:32:14.145 --> 00:32:17.925 So, I'm not sure if you if you'd like me to answer that now. 00:32:18.705 --> 00:32:19.025 Yeah. 00:32:19.025 --> 00:32:19.265 Sure. 00:32:19.265 --> 00:32:20.145 Let me just read it. 00:32:20.145 --> 00:32:27.740 So for someone who may not have an undergraduate degree in psychology or counseling, what do you recommend if their interest is in PsyD? 00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:30.960 So, yeah, why don't you go ahead and, take that on, Matthew? 00:32:31.660 --> 00:32:32.160 Sure. 00:32:32.860 --> 00:32:41.055 So if you don't have an undergraduate degree in psychology or counseling, like Bradley said, a psychology degree is preferred. 00:32:41.435 --> 00:32:43.055 However, it's not necessary. 00:32:43.915 --> 00:32:51.215 There's a lot of my peers and cohorts, in the cohort, that have a biology degree. 00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:56.280 They also have a philosophy degree or even a theology degree. 00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:05.240 And that course at the very beginning of the first year helped them to acclimate to the psychological language and whatnot. 00:33:05.780 --> 00:33:16.405 But a lot of what I personally covered in undergrad while I was doing a psychology degree is actually reviewed and actually expanded upon within the program itself. 00:33:17.345 --> 00:33:35.075 So while it is helpful to have a psychology degree, it's it's definitely not necessary, especially if you're very committed to the academic work and and just, like the that critical thinking, like like we've been mentioning before. 00:33:36.015 --> 00:33:47.775 It's it's the the information is definitely a lot, as it is a doctor program, but it's not undoable for someone who is who is open to learn and and ready to learn. 00:33:47.775 --> 00:33:48.275 Absolutely. 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:50.320 Yeah. 00:33:50.320 --> 00:33:51.200 Sounds good. 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.420 Thanks, Matthew. 00:33:52.800 --> 00:34:02.900 So, could you maybe speak a little bit to a lot of times people will ask about the difference between counseling and clinical psychology. 00:34:03.040 --> 00:34:03.360 Right? 00:34:03.360 --> 00:34:16.285 So, could you maybe talk a little bit more about that and what's, to your mind, really is what's distinct and, sort of, yeah, what sets clinical psychology apart from counseling? 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:18.400 Sure. 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:18.900 Great. 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.820 I know that we had talked about this before, Bradley, so I'm glad you bring it up now. 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:35.435 So there there is a very, very fine distinction that that may be sometimes blurred sometimes in in people's heads and the general misconceptions of of what each field does. 00:34:36.135 --> 00:34:45.195 Divine Mercy does offer a counseling degree as well as a clinical, psychology degree, so clinical therapy. 00:34:46.300 --> 00:35:09.115 I would say the major difference is that if you're to pursue the PsyD and the the clinic the the the degree in clinical therapy, clinical therapists, are able to assess people and make, certain diagnoses that a counseling, professional might not be able to. 00:35:09.115 --> 00:35:35.955 We're also able to, during this program, we're we're equipped with different modes of therapy, that addresses more severe, kind of cases such as schizophrenia, more severe cases of depression and OCD, things, like, we'll be able to treat, like, people with autism or Alzheimer's, depending on what field you specialize in or what population you specialize in. 00:35:36.495 --> 00:35:40.835 Counseling is is similar to to clinical therapy. 00:35:41.295 --> 00:35:57.100 However, a lot of it is, I I don't wanna say life coaching per se, but in many ways, a lot of the less severe types of depression, anxiety, maybe career issues or discernment. 00:35:59.505 --> 00:36:06.565 Some some counseling degrees also provide you training to to do some family therapy, some couples therapy. 00:36:07.505 --> 00:36:14.085 But on a on a larger scale, the society is able to do all those things and just a little bit more. 00:36:16.310 --> 00:36:30.735 That kind of distinguishes them, in terms of outreach, in terms of ability, in terms of, like, a wider kind of umbrella of things that we can do on a deeper level. 00:36:31.115 --> 00:36:31.935 That makes sense. 00:36:32.475 --> 00:36:55.760 If you remember the slides and if you have access to them after this, and go back to all those sample kind of jobs that, someone with the society can do, being a clinical director, absolutely, and doing a lot more, like I said, assessment and diagnosis of, like, those severe diseases, of the mind. 00:36:56.865 --> 00:36:57.265 Yeah. 00:36:57.265 --> 00:36:57.765 Fantastic. 00:36:58.465 --> 00:37:08.645 So to these tests that you're that you mentioned, what would be some sort of standard, psychological assessments that a clinical psychologist would carry out? 00:37:10.460 --> 00:37:10.860 Sure. 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:11.340 Yeah. 00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:17.900 Before I get to that, so something I forgot to mention, for the PsyD is that we also do research as well. 00:37:18.220 --> 00:37:27.165 And as we test certain, like, therapies and whatnot to see which which therapies actually work based off of evidence. 00:37:27.705 --> 00:37:29.405 We call them evidence based therapies. 00:37:29.465 --> 00:37:29.965 Right? 00:37:31.145 --> 00:37:39.165 We we are able to refine the field more and to participate within the field and, in a in a deeper way that maybe even counseling can. 00:37:40.430 --> 00:37:44.290 You mentioned what what a typical assessment might look like. 00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:56.375 So when when someone comes in and they they need to be assessed for, for example, they don't know what's wrong with them. 00:37:56.375 --> 00:37:56.875 Right? 00:37:57.295 --> 00:37:58.955 Am am I depressed? 00:37:59.175 --> 00:38:01.175 Am am I going, quote, unquote, crazy? 00:38:01.175 --> 00:38:01.675 Right? 00:38:02.295 --> 00:38:03.175 Am I seeing things? 00:38:03.175 --> 00:38:03.675 Whatnot. 00:38:04.295 --> 00:38:16.420 We have certain measures and assessments that have been found through a lot of evidence and a lot of scientific research that have been found to to to pinpoint what the issue is, if that makes sense. 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:16.640 Mhmm. 00:38:16.640 --> 00:38:35.440 So if you heard of tests like the MMPI or the MCMI, or if you kind of follow the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial and listen to all the psychologists present in a forensic and a court environment, all these different assessments that they gave to either Amber Heard or Johnny Depp or whatnot, right? 00:38:36.060 --> 00:38:39.120 These are the assessments that we learn in this program. 00:38:39.660 --> 00:38:50.145 If you ever heard of the Ink Block test or different storytelling tests and whatnot, we're taught all those assessments within the program itself. 00:38:50.385 --> 00:38:59.205 By the second year, you'll you will have access to and have the tools, to to even do the IQ test. 00:38:59.585 --> 00:39:00.085 Mhmm. 00:39:00.225 --> 00:39:18.295 So I've I've learned all these things already, and so my classmates have gone on to externships where they administer these and formulated, reports, for clients, like, complete reports for clients in hospital settings, and private group practice settings and whatnot. 00:39:19.795 --> 00:39:20.435 Very cool. 00:39:20.435 --> 00:39:20.675 Yeah. 00:39:20.675 --> 00:39:22.295 I think that's that's super interesting. 00:39:23.155 --> 00:39:26.435 So you you know, you could also carry out personality tests as well. 00:39:26.435 --> 00:39:26.835 Right? 00:39:26.835 --> 00:39:27.155 Yes. 00:39:27.155 --> 00:39:27.655 Absolutely. 00:39:27.810 --> 00:39:28.130 Yeah. 00:39:28.130 --> 00:39:28.630 Yeah. 00:39:28.770 --> 00:39:28.930 Yeah. 00:39:28.930 --> 00:39:35.990 So it seems that the, you know, the advantage with with clinical psychology is that you are you have a greater tools kit at your disposal. 00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:36.450 Right? 00:39:36.450 --> 00:39:37.090 So Mhmm. 00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:44.785 You're able to rule out underlying factors that could show up on a on a psychological test that, you know, maybe, you know, a counselor couldn't couldn't do. 00:39:45.325 --> 00:40:00.800 And as you say, you also have extensive clinical training, and you have a lots of coursework, lots of, heavy duty research into really the, you know, where, each field in psychology rests. 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.080 You know, where is, what does the evidence show? 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:05.860 What are the best practices? 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:06.980 That kind of thing. 00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:10.095 Because in a way, you're you're you're a scientist clinician. 00:40:10.095 --> 00:40:10.255 Right? 00:40:10.255 --> 00:40:18.035 So you you're you're you're trained to carry out research, but also, you know, to digest that research as a as a practitioner, as a clinician. 00:40:18.175 --> 00:40:18.675 Right? 00:40:18.815 --> 00:40:19.315 Yep. 00:40:19.455 --> 00:40:19.955 Absolutely. 00:40:20.495 --> 00:40:20.995 Okay. 00:40:21.695 --> 00:40:29.720 So could you maybe say something about your own so looking for your own career and your own goals and your own future. 00:40:29.720 --> 00:40:30.600 What do you see? 00:40:30.600 --> 00:40:34.360 I mean, so you've gone to your sort of radius race at Divine Mercy. 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.755 You've had, you know, some some years under your belt now. 00:40:37.995 --> 00:40:43.055 What is, you know, what are you interested in, and what do you see yourself getting into in the future? 00:40:44.475 --> 00:40:44.975 Sure. 00:40:45.435 --> 00:40:54.910 So I actually have a background in working with, delinquent adolescents, within an in inpatient treatment facility, in the state of Oregon. 00:40:55.770 --> 00:41:05.210 Back then, I was just a residential counselor, so I couldn't do much other than just talk to them and, like, listen to them, and just, like, take care of them, just their bodily needs and whatnot. 00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:18.955 And, as, you know, I look forward to the future, I hope to work with them in a clinical sense in that these these delinquent adolescents, for example, they they suffer a lot of PTSD. 00:41:19.495 --> 00:41:23.890 They suffer from a lot of family issues and attachment issues and whatnot. 00:41:24.750 --> 00:41:33.250 And they would they would receive therapy, from the on-site, doctor level clinicians. 00:41:34.270 --> 00:41:34.830 I saw that. 00:41:34.830 --> 00:41:36.375 I was like, heck. 00:41:36.755 --> 00:41:37.555 I wanna do that. 00:41:37.555 --> 00:41:37.875 Right? 00:41:37.875 --> 00:42:00.980 I I wanna work with these these kids and their families on on a deeper level to to kind of unpack those wounds and and hopefully to heal those wounds, that have been so buried deep that has had led them to, commit these crimes, these these felonies sometimes, and lead them to to a life that isn't fulfilling, to live into a life that isn't free. 00:42:01.635 --> 00:42:05.255 And so as I look forward to the future, I hope to to work with that population. 00:42:07.795 --> 00:42:08.035 Yeah. 00:42:08.035 --> 00:42:09.795 Just they're just very close to my heart. 00:42:09.795 --> 00:42:22.900 And so, looking hopefully to work in maybe even a hospital setting, but definitely maybe also treatment facilities, that's that have that have these families that that need help. 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:24.260 Yeah. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:30.875 So speaking of hospitals, sometimes people can so we've talked about the difference between counseling and psych clinical psychology. 00:42:31.255 --> 00:42:34.475 How would you distinguish clinical psychology from psychiatry? 00:42:35.575 --> 00:42:36.555 That's a good question. 00:42:36.855 --> 00:42:42.155 So psychiatrists, are actually very drastically different from psychologists. 00:42:43.620 --> 00:42:47.240 Psychiatry, you you receive your medical, doctorate. 00:42:48.100 --> 00:43:06.065 And psychology is and clinical therapy, works more through kind of thought behaviors and, thoughts and behaviors and thinking patterns and and whatnot and then trying to get to the root of that through, through talk therapy or through even working with psychiatrists. 00:43:07.565 --> 00:43:33.155 Psychiatrists, they do see clients, but their main mode of intervention is through medication, While psychology and, clinical therapist, their main mode of of intervention is through, like, their therapeutic orientations such as, like, cognitive behavioral therapy or things like acceptance and commitment therapy or whatnot. 00:43:33.535 --> 00:43:36.575 So psychiatrists, they don't do a lot of the family work. 00:43:36.575 --> 00:43:57.805 They don't do a lot of, the, you know, couples work or, like, intense severe cases outside of medications, while psychologists work with psychiatrists to to provide the best form of care, which, through evidence, we found is a mixture of both medication and therapy, not one or the other. 00:43:57.805 --> 00:43:58.705 That makes sense. 00:43:59.245 --> 00:43:59.565 Yeah. 00:43:59.565 --> 00:43:59.685 No. 00:43:59.685 --> 00:44:01.585 It makes makes makes sure it makes sense. 00:44:02.045 --> 00:44:12.420 So what have you found to be maybe speak to the most enjoyable and rewarding parts of the program thus far for you and the things that have been the most challenging? 00:44:13.520 --> 00:44:13.840 Sure. 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.240 I'll start with the most challenging and then on a good note. 00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:16.720 Okay. 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:30.965 One of the most challenging things, I think, is I I came in with a misconception of, like, how how much commitment this this program takes, if that makes sense. 00:44:31.425 --> 00:44:35.825 My first year I I mentioned before I was doing some part time work, and it was just very taxing. 00:44:35.825 --> 00:44:37.350 I was very tired all the time. 00:44:38.310 --> 00:44:42.710 And once I started to shift my focus and understood, like, no. 00:44:42.710 --> 00:44:44.790 This is this is like a job. 00:44:44.790 --> 00:44:45.030 Right? 00:44:45.030 --> 00:45:01.505 This is, like, I I I live and breathe psychology, and I have to, you know, like, refocus every single week and every single day to to growing, my myself in a professional manner as a psychologist. 00:45:03.165 --> 00:45:07.050 But also looking out for those times where, like, okay. 00:45:07.050 --> 00:45:10.650 Gotta refocus, gotta remember what this is all about. 00:45:10.650 --> 00:45:11.150 Right? 00:45:11.530 --> 00:45:12.030 Mhmm. 00:45:12.730 --> 00:45:16.510 And the prayer definitely helps, definitely helps with that. 00:45:17.930 --> 00:45:35.490 One of the most, I think well, one of the most important blessings I've had throughout this program, has just been this, it's been a joy working with clients and, talking with my cohort and just growing, in community with them as well. 00:45:36.910 --> 00:45:42.590 I have a priest in my cohort, and the first cohort also has another priest. 00:45:42.590 --> 00:45:47.650 And, you know, we also have sisters in in our program as well. 00:45:47.905 --> 00:46:06.170 And just speaking with them and just seeing how they love and seeing how they live, such a, like, a pious life and, a zealous life within a field that on the outside looks like it's very secular in nature. 00:46:06.170 --> 00:46:11.930 A lot of people think that psychology kind of detracts from the soul, kind of detracts from from the pursuit of God. 00:46:11.930 --> 00:46:14.590 Like, well, no, it's it's actually quite the opposite. 00:46:15.485 --> 00:46:23.665 As we enter in these people's lives, we we help them to untangle kind of life's mess, if that makes sense. 00:46:23.725 --> 00:46:24.045 Sure. 00:46:24.045 --> 00:46:29.850 And to see them be free to pursue God in a way that is, genuine. 00:46:29.910 --> 00:46:30.310 Right? 00:46:30.310 --> 00:46:34.790 In a way that, they can make that decision themselves and make that choice to, like, okay. 00:46:34.790 --> 00:46:36.410 This is where I'm at in my life. 00:46:38.150 --> 00:46:46.985 It's it's it's just been a joy, you know, to to be to be able to be part of that process, and to be able to walk with people, if that makes sense. 00:46:47.205 --> 00:46:47.365 Yeah. 00:46:47.365 --> 00:46:47.925 That's cool. 00:46:47.925 --> 00:46:58.220 Doctor Vitz, one of the founding guys, of this program, he he speaks about he hosted the child baptist one day. 00:46:58.220 --> 00:47:06.700 It is the patron saint of psychology, as he sees psychology as getting in the way and riding the way for the Lord. 00:47:06.700 --> 00:47:07.200 Right? 00:47:07.985 --> 00:47:08.805 Oh, that's beautiful. 00:47:09.105 --> 00:47:10.325 Thanks for sharing that. 00:47:11.505 --> 00:47:17.825 What has been would you what would you say is really the greatest strength of Divine Mercy? 00:47:17.825 --> 00:47:24.370 Now I know it's maybe that's not a fair question because, you know, you've only been to to find mercy and not other schools in psychology. 00:47:24.370 --> 00:47:34.630 But in in order to kind of for for people that are, you know, listening to this and and wondering, like, what is it that's really remarkable and salient about, Divine Mercy? 00:47:35.090 --> 00:47:36.150 What would you say? 00:47:37.325 --> 00:47:37.825 Sure. 00:47:38.365 --> 00:47:43.265 I think in comparison to other schools again, there have been another school besides Divine Mercy Sure. 00:47:43.965 --> 00:47:44.845 Because I love air. 00:47:45.165 --> 00:47:56.820 But it's it it does a fantastic job of helping you to understand, the fullness of the human person. 00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:57.780 Mhmm. 00:47:58.560 --> 00:48:01.620 And that includes yourself and myself. 00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:19.530 This I I this idea that, you know, you can you can pray things away or, this idea that, oh, depression is just, you know, sadness or can just be fixed with talk there. 00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:19.930 Like, no. 00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:21.450 It's it's a little bit of everything. 00:48:21.450 --> 00:48:21.950 Right? 00:48:22.330 --> 00:48:30.345 And while some programs, you know, they lean very heavily into CBT or very heavily into the research and whatnot, that's that's all well and good. 00:48:30.825 --> 00:48:52.820 But to forget the meaning and the purpose behind what we do, I think leads many people astray, which is why even within the field of psychology itself, there's a lot of different divisions, a lot of different, perspectives and philosophies, that may be harmful to to clients, that may be harmful to patients. 00:48:53.840 --> 00:49:20.760 And so as as we approach the this view of the human person as full of dignity, as full of worth, as full of, this this value, that deserves unconditional love and our very best research, our very best therapy, and our very best practice, it it it just provides, this this whole deeper meaning of what it means to be a therapist. 00:49:22.420 --> 00:49:32.945 And part of that, and we discussed this in class just the other day, means to to work on yourself and to to look back on yourself and say, okay. 00:49:33.325 --> 00:49:40.845 If I'm gonna be here helping this person to to be free, I need to find those places in my in my heart that I've heard. 00:49:40.845 --> 00:49:48.700 I need to find those places in my in my life where I'm not free, where I'm a slave to some things, where I, am struggling. 00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:49.320 Right? 00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:53.180 Because if I don't know the way, then how can I guide someone else down that way? 00:49:54.120 --> 00:49:54.620 Yeah. 00:49:54.755 --> 00:49:54.915 No. 00:49:54.915 --> 00:49:55.875 It makes perfect sense. 00:49:55.875 --> 00:49:57.095 Hard to argue with that. 00:49:58.035 --> 00:49:59.095 One last thing. 00:49:59.715 --> 00:50:11.000 So has there been, you know, I think maybe another another thing maybe that I'll add on to that is, we we really are a generalist program. 00:50:11.060 --> 00:50:11.460 Right? 00:50:11.460 --> 00:50:16.200 So, you know, you're exposed to basically every major, school of psychotherapy. 00:50:16.740 --> 00:50:22.340 You're well exposed to all of the different, treatments and testing and research. 00:50:22.340 --> 00:50:22.840 Right? 00:50:23.485 --> 00:50:37.665 What has been maybe a school of psychotherapy or thinker that has been you know, you've been exposed to a divine mercy maybe for the first time that has really changed the way that you thought about the human person and your role as a future mental health clinician? 00:50:38.730 --> 00:50:39.130 Sure. 00:50:39.130 --> 00:50:39.630 Yeah. 00:50:39.690 --> 00:50:39.930 No. 00:50:39.930 --> 00:50:41.230 That's that's a great question. 00:50:41.450 --> 00:50:42.730 And so you're right. 00:50:42.730 --> 00:50:52.110 We we are a generalist institution, which means that we explore kind of the fullness of the field, which means that we don't really narrow in on kind of one thing or another. 00:50:52.925 --> 00:51:02.785 But this idea of of, there's a there's a psychologist named Erickson, and this this might be psych one zero one for some people. 00:51:03.485 --> 00:51:14.240 But Erickson laid out human development on, a couple stages, and he said that there's a struggle between each stage. 00:51:15.500 --> 00:51:26.845 And just in my experience of people and just speaking with them and just listening to to their struggles and their sufferings and whatnot, these ring very true. 00:51:27.625 --> 00:51:45.100 For example, for adolescents, the the population I wanna work with, Erickson says that during this stage of adolescence, they're the struggle that that's pulling them and causing this tension within them is that they either find their identity or it leads them to identity confusion. 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:45.820 Right? 00:51:47.195 --> 00:51:49.775 Within the school and and Erickson mentions it. 00:51:49.835 --> 00:51:53.935 And within a secular school, they don't really mention this last part. 00:51:53.995 --> 00:52:04.740 But Erickson tied a virtue to each of these things, right, to each of these struggles, that that will help to guide them through through each of the struggles. 00:52:05.040 --> 00:52:09.920 So another example for for the elderly, the geriatric community. 00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:10.320 Right? 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:11.780 The geriatric population. 00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:25.375 Either they, that they're struggling between finding themselves with full of integrity, which means that their dignity is still worth or, like, decay, if that makes sense. 00:52:25.435 --> 00:52:25.835 Mhmm. 00:52:25.995 --> 00:52:27.855 And so, like, okay. 00:52:28.075 --> 00:52:34.520 Am I worth something in my old age, or am I just going to pass away without being helpful or useful anymore? 00:52:34.520 --> 00:52:34.960 Right? 00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:50.425 And, it's it it opened up a whole new way of thinking about, look about helping people and what their core struggles are, and what their their main hurts are. 00:52:50.885 --> 00:52:58.665 And so, it's helped me to to grow in empathy for sure and compassion for each each population and and every client that I see. 00:52:59.740 --> 00:53:00.240 Excellent. 00:53:00.460 --> 00:53:01.520 Thank you, Matthew. 00:53:02.300 --> 00:53:03.920 And thank you for your time. 00:53:04.220 --> 00:53:06.320 With that, I I'm gonna wrap it up here. 00:53:06.380 --> 00:53:06.880 Sure. 00:53:07.180 --> 00:53:20.995 For for those of you who are watching, if you are interested in our PsyD program, I have listed my email address, my Calendly link, and at the application link in the chat. 00:53:20.995 --> 00:53:23.495 So be sure to take advantage of that. 00:53:23.555 --> 00:53:32.970 And, again, I wanna thank Matthew for very much for your time and, sharing us all of your knowledge about this program, which I think is a truly, wonderful one. 00:53:32.970 --> 00:53:36.510 So with that, thank you, and god bless you. 00:53:36.810 --> 00:53:37.370 Thank you all. 00:53:37.370 --> 00:53:38.110 Thanks, Bradley. 00:53:38.330 --> 00:53:38.650 Bye bye. 00:53:38.650 --> 00:53:39.550 Take care, everyone.