WEBVTT 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:12.500 I do wanna take, a moment and officially welcome all of you, to the DeDine University, webinar on the PsyD program that we have at the university. 00:00:12.935 --> 00:00:14.935 My name is Tammy Spitzko Heffner. 00:00:14.935 --> 00:00:22.395 I'm a part of the admissions team at DMU, and I'm actually going to be sharing with you this evening, more on the PsyD program. 00:00:22.855 --> 00:00:28.155 I do wanna let you know that we also are are very honored to have a special guest with us this evening. 00:00:28.720 --> 00:00:31.360 Isaiah Lamb is a student, a current student. 00:00:31.360 --> 00:00:32.100 There's Isaiah. 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:32.980 Hi, Isaiah. 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.320 He's a current student in this IB program. 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.460 He's a second year. 00:00:37.680 --> 00:00:43.415 So he's gonna be joining us this evening as well, sharing, just more personally on the program from his perspective. 00:00:43.415 --> 00:00:50.875 We are going to have, and really be open to q and a during the time that, Isaiah is, you know, sharing as a part of this webinar. 00:00:51.095 --> 00:00:58.150 So do feel free, to ask questions and prepare questions really for Isaiah as well as potentially for me. 00:00:58.150 --> 00:00:59.910 So it's really great to have a student here. 00:00:59.910 --> 00:01:02.150 So, Isaiah, I just wanna say thank you. 00:01:02.390 --> 00:01:08.645 I really appreciate having you here, and we look forward to, to hearing more from you a little bit later on in the webinar. 00:01:08.645 --> 00:01:09.785 So thank you. 00:01:11.205 --> 00:01:20.105 So what we're gonna do, as far as the schedule in this webinar, we are gonna spend the first twenty minutes or so, maybe thirty at the most, going through this, official presentation. 00:01:20.565 --> 00:01:24.300 And then what we're going to do from there is then bring Isaiah on. 00:01:24.300 --> 00:01:28.160 So we are going to cover a lot of details in that short amount of time. 00:01:28.300 --> 00:01:36.060 Try to get some questions in there but I really do want to make sure that we take advantage for your benefit of having a student with us this evening. 00:01:36.060 --> 00:01:37.195 So that's the plan. 00:01:37.195 --> 00:01:51.375 So we're going to go ahead and get started with just sharing about the program and then again a little bit later about maybe twenty thirty minutes in, have Isaiah join us more officially and open up to discussion directly with him about his experience in the program from the student student perspective. 00:01:51.750 --> 00:01:53.830 So again, thank you all so much for being here. 00:01:54.470 --> 00:01:57.750 I really do, look forward to sharing more with you, this evening. 00:01:57.750 --> 00:02:00.890 So just gonna do a couple of cross checks here for recording. 00:02:01.190 --> 00:02:05.190 Again, make sure that you do feel free to use that q and a feature, the chat feature. 00:02:05.190 --> 00:02:11.175 We'll try to take some breaks here and there, check that, and then respond as we can to any questions that you might have. 00:02:11.235 --> 00:02:27.660 And for those of you that are going to be watching this as a recording, unfortunately, while you won't be able to directly ask questions, hopefully, the use of that chat feature from the folks with us tonight will also answer some of those questions as well post, webinar just when the recording is up and available. 00:02:28.200 --> 00:02:28.520 Alright. 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:30.300 So let's go ahead and and get started. 00:02:32.920 --> 00:02:35.775 So as I mentioned, my name is Tammy Spitzkeleffner. 00:02:35.995 --> 00:02:40.175 What is important to take away from this slide in front of you, is really just the email. 00:02:40.235 --> 00:02:42.075 Our email address and our contact information. 00:02:42.075 --> 00:02:46.575 I know I've I've had the pleasure actually of already interacting with some of you here, this evening. 00:02:46.890 --> 00:02:56.890 I definitely encourage an outreach to our office and one of us will definitely be very happy to help you, you know, answering anything about the program, that you weren't able to find out, this evening. 00:02:56.890 --> 00:03:07.825 So the, the email that we use specifically for those interested in the PsyD program, we do ask you to use the admissions email that's admissions.PsyD@divinemercy.edu. 00:03:07.825 --> 00:03:12.145 That just gets you right to PsyD folks to help you out with any questions that you have. 00:03:12.145 --> 00:03:17.930 So again, if you wanna take note of that email, admissions.PsyD@divinemercy.edu. 00:03:18.950 --> 00:03:22.090 I'm gonna begin with a little bit about the university itself. 00:03:22.710 --> 00:03:29.285 Some of you may be familiar with Divine Mercy University, prior to it actually being named Divine Mercy University. 00:03:29.505 --> 00:03:34.565 We actually began in 1999 as the Institute for the Psychological Sciences. 00:03:36.065 --> 00:03:55.695 During that time, we had a PsyD program as well as a master's in clinical psychology, and we had that for a number of years until we decided to expand our program offerings, with the in 2014 by offering an online MS in general psychology that was a non practitioner, non clinical degree. 00:03:55.695 --> 00:03:57.475 So basically for the helping professions. 00:03:58.095 --> 00:04:00.595 That program has been really successful for the university. 00:04:00.655 --> 00:04:23.575 We know that it's, provided, you know, a really unique educational perspective for those individuals who aren't able to come and study with us on-site but also further who don't actually need a full, you know, background or a degree if you will, in a counseling or clinical field but rather more just for triaging and using it in their already established careers that are maybe related to mental health. 00:04:23.575 --> 00:04:25.435 But, again, they're not looking to be practitioners. 00:04:26.135 --> 00:04:31.275 So that program was launched in 2014 again as a part of, IPS. 00:04:31.895 --> 00:04:32.875 That was so successful. 00:04:33.095 --> 00:04:35.115 We decided to continue with that expansion. 00:04:35.700 --> 00:04:43.880 And in 2015, we actually renamed the university from IPS to Divine Mercy University and we added a school of counseling. 00:04:44.340 --> 00:04:53.135 So just to kind of lay this out for you here a little bit further, we actually then, when we became Divine Mercy University, we actually kind of broke up into two schools or or you could say added. 00:04:53.135 --> 00:04:59.715 You made the made the university, an overarching university with two schools within it. 00:05:00.095 --> 00:05:04.195 The school of, counseling was added as we noted just a moment ago. 00:05:04.390 --> 00:05:08.550 And with that school, we actually began a counseling program that's online. 00:05:08.550 --> 00:05:17.290 So some of that some of you may be interested in that as well and and learning more about that, or have family members or friends who could be interested as well in our counseling program. 00:05:17.745 --> 00:05:18.465 Fantastic program. 00:05:18.465 --> 00:05:22.725 It's an online hybrid program that, again, is housed under our school of counseling. 00:05:23.265 --> 00:05:27.045 Then we go back to IPS or the Institute for the Psychological Sciences. 00:05:27.345 --> 00:05:30.485 And within that school, we have, two programs. 00:05:31.020 --> 00:05:39.200 The online MS in psychology program that we mentioned was added in 2014, and then, of course, the program that we're speaking about tonight, which is the PsyD program. 00:05:39.340 --> 00:05:48.665 The PsyD program really is, in in many ways just the birth of the concept of our university, which really is truly, truly, unique, which we'll talk more about this evening as well. 00:05:48.665 --> 00:05:55.725 So the PsyD in clinical psychology really was, the initiator for the whole concept for Divine Mercy University. 00:05:56.025 --> 00:05:59.245 So a little bit about our history there, for you. 00:05:59.740 --> 00:06:02.060 As we've shared, you can you all can read this slide here. 00:06:02.060 --> 00:06:08.940 As we've shared, as many of you already know, we do have a very, very unique, mission and vision at Divine Mercy University. 00:06:08.940 --> 00:06:14.175 We do something, really very different, something that, really is completely unique to us. 00:06:14.335 --> 00:06:24.195 We actually offer, the Catholic Christian meta metaphysical perspective, combined with clinical psychology and counseling. 00:06:24.575 --> 00:06:26.335 So those are two things that come together. 00:06:26.335 --> 00:06:33.200 So it's going to be, again, the Catholic Christian anthropology of the person, marriage, and family combined with the sciences of psychology and counseling. 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:34.740 We're really blending those together. 00:06:34.880 --> 00:06:43.055 And at DMU, we call that integration and we have a whole model built around that concept which we'll also speak a little bit more about this evening. 00:06:43.515 --> 00:07:02.280 What's really unique, about our university and that model of integration is that we really do view, you know, wholeheartedly the validity of the science of psychology and counseling, but we also acknowledge and believe that that, that science is fulfilled through the holistic understanding of the person. 00:07:02.420 --> 00:07:06.200 You're really using again that that Catholic Christian, meta model. 00:07:06.260 --> 00:07:13.125 The idea of where both, philosophy and theology come together in combination with the sciences of psychology and counseling. 00:07:13.125 --> 00:07:16.905 That is, again, very much you know, that is central to our identity. 00:07:16.965 --> 00:07:21.740 That is something that, to date, I haven't found really anywhere else. 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:39.505 I do think we do that very, very specifically, very uniquely, and it is the foundation of how our university began was this acknowledgment and then that is how the whole university, you know, evolved was was recognizing the science is valid, but so is this, philosophical and theological understanding. 00:07:39.505 --> 00:07:44.485 And we needed to bring the two together to really have a holistic view of the human person. 00:07:44.705 --> 00:07:54.850 And so that's it really is, again, central to who we are and really, how we we shape and model our programs to prepare our students, for vocations as mental health professionals. 00:07:55.870 --> 00:08:00.530 The university, is accredited, as is the program of clinical psychology. 00:08:00.670 --> 00:08:03.330 So important to understand a little bit about that. 00:08:04.005 --> 00:08:08.505 We actually are first, accredited by, for our region. 00:08:08.565 --> 00:08:12.485 Every every institution, not every but most institutions are first regionally accredited. 00:08:12.485 --> 00:08:16.905 And then from there, you could seek out additional accreditations as would be appropriate to your programs. 00:08:17.750 --> 00:08:23.270 So in The United States, we do accreditation by region and then again, we specify, you know, as would be appropriate. 00:08:23.270 --> 00:08:25.750 For us, it would be with, the side view of the APA. 00:08:25.750 --> 00:08:30.250 So we do have SACS accreditation to operate, you know, in regionally. 00:08:30.915 --> 00:08:44.540 We actually have an acknowledgment, by SHEV, an organization called SHEV, which gives us the ability to also further operate in the state of Virginia, which is where we are based out of, which is also where the PsyD program does live. 00:08:44.540 --> 00:08:47.040 I mean, it is an on-site program in Sterling, Virginia. 00:08:47.340 --> 00:08:51.040 So we operate through, the permissions of Cheve to to be in Virginia. 00:08:51.340 --> 00:09:02.665 And then something that I'm sure everyone here really cares a lot about is understanding that the PsyD and clinical psychology program is further accredited by APA, the American Psychological Association. 00:09:03.045 --> 00:09:04.485 We're very proud of that fact. 00:09:04.485 --> 00:09:08.185 We did, we were awarded that accreditation in 2016. 00:09:08.805 --> 00:09:12.425 It's really, very important that PsyD programs do have that accreditation. 00:09:13.110 --> 00:09:19.750 Again, and DMU is certainly very proud that this, program is is accredited by the American Psychological, Association. 00:09:19.750 --> 00:09:21.930 We've had again since 2016. 00:09:22.230 --> 00:09:25.190 If you have any questions about accreditation, do let me know that. 00:09:25.190 --> 00:09:27.945 We're happy to to visit a little bit more about that. 00:09:29.365 --> 00:09:37.145 What I'd like to do, as we kind of segue into, you know, moving away from really the foundation of the university accreditation and into the program itself. 00:09:37.365 --> 00:09:44.600 So I do wanna view for a moment what it means to be a clinical psychologist and what is clinical psychology. 00:09:45.140 --> 00:09:46.500 So we have a couple of things here. 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:57.755 First we have the definition by APA that clinical psychology is the psychological specialty that provides continuing and comprehensive mental health and behavioral health care for individuals and families. 00:09:58.535 --> 00:10:02.875 Further, clinical psychologists also do consultation to agencies and communities. 00:10:03.255 --> 00:10:07.815 They provide training, education, supervision, and everything is based, you know, on research. 00:10:07.815 --> 00:10:09.435 So it's research based practice. 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:12.630 So that's again kind of an official snapshot from APA. 00:10:13.330 --> 00:10:34.325 Further, what I've learned helps folks to even, you gain a deeper understanding of clinical psychology is to understand that one of the hallmarks of clinical psychology, really the hallmark is a better way to phrase that, the clinical psychology, is the ability to conduct and administer psychological tests and assessment so as to determine, if there's a diagnosis or other things that could be happening with a client. 00:10:34.545 --> 00:10:36.485 This is a professional skill. 00:10:36.705 --> 00:10:39.045 It is reserved specifically for the psychologists. 00:10:39.435 --> 00:10:43.020 It It requires specialized highly skilled training and implementation. 00:10:43.160 --> 00:10:52.300 So that's something to really understand that I think really separates clinical psychology from other licensable mental health professions such as counseling or social work or similar. 00:10:52.360 --> 00:11:05.765 Is that clinical psychologists have this unique and distinct ability, to to conduct psychological testing and assessment again with the the, you know, the goal of determining if a diagnosis is present or, again, other pathologies. 00:11:05.985 --> 00:11:07.045 I wanna be clear. 00:11:07.470 --> 00:11:09.410 Psychology is not trying to seek out a diagnosis. 00:11:09.470 --> 00:11:11.630 It's it's their ability to determine if there is one. 00:11:11.630 --> 00:11:13.330 Again, much like a medical doctor. 00:11:13.470 --> 00:11:18.910 Medical doctor examines you and determines what's going on here, is there a diagnosis, and makes their assessment do that. 00:11:18.910 --> 00:11:25.235 Very, very similar, and be kinda parallel to the work of a clinical psychologist, but also being obviously very different. 00:11:25.375 --> 00:11:36.035 So, again, if you have questions about that differentiation between clinical psychology and other licensable mental health professions, go ahead and pop those in the chat or the q and a, and we'll we'll try to address those as well. 00:11:36.820 --> 00:11:42.920 So again continuing on to discuss how our program works, talked a little bit again what is clinical psychology. 00:11:42.980 --> 00:11:44.920 Now we're going to talk about what is this program. 00:11:45.460 --> 00:11:49.540 Our program at DMU is a very wonderful intensive program. 00:11:49.540 --> 00:11:51.240 It's academically very strong. 00:11:51.375 --> 00:11:58.415 It's built, you know, with rigorous concepts in mind, things that really do have excellent training available to you as a prospective student. 00:11:58.415 --> 00:12:06.515 I think that's really, again, something to really note about our program is we do go above and beyond really what is required for training as a clinical psychologist. 00:12:07.270 --> 00:12:12.970 Our program specifically is one hundred and twenty two hours, one hundred and twenty two credit hours of graduate studies. 00:12:13.190 --> 00:12:15.830 It includes, it's what they call a direct admit program. 00:12:15.830 --> 00:12:20.895 So when you're admitted to our program, you're admitted for the whole program which is a total of five years. 00:12:20.975 --> 00:12:24.355 You earn a master's along the way to earning your PsyD. 00:12:24.495 --> 00:12:24.735 Okay. 00:12:24.735 --> 00:12:26.975 Again, if you have questions about that, let me know. 00:12:26.975 --> 00:12:31.855 I do wanted to share that the master's that you earn is a a more academic master's. 00:12:31.855 --> 00:12:33.215 It's not a clinical master's. 00:12:33.215 --> 00:12:40.080 So the clinical practice does come through the earning of the PsyD degree versus earning it through the master's along the way. 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:49.965 So if if you are thinking, oh, I'm gonna come in maybe do my master's and then stop there and then become a clinician at the master's level, that actually does not work in in a study program like this. 00:12:49.965 --> 00:12:54.125 The program is structured, with its degree completion to be that of the PsyD. 00:12:54.125 --> 00:13:00.785 That is the goal that this program has in mind for its student is to become a clinical psychologist via the PsyD degree. 00:13:01.005 --> 00:13:05.425 So, again, that's a five year program, and it does prepare you to become a clinical psychologist. 00:13:06.020 --> 00:13:09.720 Prepares specifically as well for licensure, of course, as a clinical psychologist. 00:13:10.020 --> 00:13:12.680 We'll talk a little bit more about licensure too later on. 00:13:12.740 --> 00:13:16.120 So here's a breakdown of the five years that you can see in front of you. 00:13:16.260 --> 00:13:22.045 The first four years do take place on-site at our campus in Sterling, Virginia. 00:13:22.585 --> 00:13:25.625 And you can see the breakdowns there for years one through four. 00:13:25.625 --> 00:13:37.920 In the fifth year, every student again in these in study programs again across the nation, including of course DMU, you would engage ideally in your fifth year, you would be engaging in your pre doc internship program. 00:13:38.220 --> 00:13:41.260 And that internship could take you anywhere in in the nation. 00:13:41.260 --> 00:13:50.035 It's I would say that just for, again, for relational, comparisons, I would say it's kind of similar if you think about medical doctors and you've probably heard of them having residencies. 00:13:50.495 --> 00:13:57.375 You know, it's again, it's an official part of the program, but it is the the doctor going out and kind of really putting to practice what they've learned to date. 00:13:57.375 --> 00:14:00.835 It's a very similar concept to the internship in a PsyD program. 00:14:01.010 --> 00:14:09.270 It's taking everything that you've learned in the previous four years, all of your clinical experience up to that point, and you're putting it to test in a pre doc internship under supervision. 00:14:09.650 --> 00:14:12.290 And you are going through a process to select a site. 00:14:12.290 --> 00:14:14.615 It's a nationwide selection process. 00:14:14.775 --> 00:14:16.855 It's you know it is it's a big deal. 00:14:16.855 --> 00:14:18.935 It's in and the students really do look forward to it. 00:14:18.935 --> 00:14:29.800 It's really the pivotal point in the program is getting that pre doc internship because once that pre doc internship is completed and successful, you know, successfully completed, that is when you're eligible for graduation. 00:14:29.860 --> 00:14:31.400 So it's a really big deal. 00:14:31.460 --> 00:14:43.045 So in that fifth year, it would be, I would say, very probable to actually be moving out of the state of Virginia, you know, away from BMU's campus, to, you know, anywhere else in the nation. 00:14:43.045 --> 00:14:53.145 You you do as a student know ultimately where you're going, of course, it's not a surprise, but you are applying to different sites, throughout the country and a selection process takes place. 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:58.560 And there's something called match day where you learn, where you are matched at for that fifth year. 00:14:58.560 --> 00:15:06.180 So, again, just the takeaway here is understanding that four years are spent with us in the general area, of DMU's campus in Sterling, Virginia. 00:15:06.395 --> 00:15:12.475 But that fifth year then, in your predoc internship someplace in The United States, you're at an approved site. 00:15:12.475 --> 00:15:19.855 And, again, lots more on that, to come as you consider, applying to and learning about the PsyD program. 00:15:20.400 --> 00:15:23.620 I do want to take a quick moment and just break down years one through four. 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.700 Year one is completely, an academically based year. 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.280 You do start your research, for your dissertation in our program right away. 00:15:31.280 --> 00:15:34.425 We start getting you talking about and thinking about your dissertation. 00:15:34.485 --> 00:15:37.625 And the dissertation is a phenomenal thing for you as a PsyD student. 00:15:37.765 --> 00:15:43.925 It really is your opportunity, to put your ideas and your work out there for, you know, in a dissertation form. 00:15:43.925 --> 00:15:49.940 So we really do set you up for success in that area by starting you out right away year one thinking about that. 00:15:49.940 --> 00:16:00.280 Year two, you continue in coursework, you're on-site in the program, and you're also beginning your first externship experience, which means you're seeing clients in a clinical setting in an externship capacity. 00:16:00.820 --> 00:16:03.295 You're actually doing that with us at our clinic. 00:16:03.295 --> 00:16:05.315 We have a clinic in the university. 00:16:05.695 --> 00:16:12.095 So your first year, if you will, we're kinda training you up in your externship before we send you out to a local, externship site. 00:16:12.095 --> 00:16:14.515 And year three, you would continue with your coursework. 00:16:15.270 --> 00:16:17.750 Again, year three, you do take a dip down in coursework. 00:16:17.750 --> 00:16:34.745 You you're not taking quite as much as you did the two previous years, but you're engaging, on more serious externship opportunity with more hours that is outside of DMU's clinic, would be in an external clinic in in the general community in our Sterling, Virginia area including could include DC, even parts of Maryland perhaps. 00:16:34.745 --> 00:16:38.525 It just depends again on on where you end up going for your your externship. 00:16:39.145 --> 00:16:42.990 And basically year three, that same pattern is continued in year four. 00:16:43.070 --> 00:16:44.830 Year four, you're finishing up your coursework. 00:16:44.830 --> 00:16:46.690 You're really ramping up on your dissertation. 00:16:46.990 --> 00:16:49.250 A lot of students are even finishing their dissertation. 00:16:49.630 --> 00:16:53.630 In year four, the writing of it and they're preparing for their defense in the fifth year. 00:16:53.630 --> 00:17:12.535 Again, in that fourth year, they're doing another externship locally with more hours, ideally more responsibility, a little more intensity there, really preparing you well, to become an excellent clinician and really gearing you up for that fifth year where you're finishing your dissertation and defending and engaging in that pre doctoral, internship. 00:17:12.835 --> 00:17:13.335 Okay? 00:17:14.270 --> 00:17:19.330 We do wanna share here as well in this slide, we're actually very fortunate in our program. 00:17:19.470 --> 00:17:25.470 We work very, very hard to ensure that in that fifth year, that pre doc internship, that we have a 100% placement. 00:17:25.470 --> 00:17:28.235 So we've currently, we've continued to maintain that step. 00:17:28.235 --> 00:17:31.515 We do get a 100% placement, you know, across the board. 00:17:31.515 --> 00:17:44.250 You know, again, everybody is at an APIC site at minimum, and we do have an annual placement of somewhere between 7580% of of those students doing a pre doc internship will place at an APA accredited site, which is a big deal. 00:17:44.250 --> 00:17:49.070 So we've got some pretty good data there, with the, internship placement. 00:17:51.065 --> 00:17:51.225 Alright. 00:17:51.225 --> 00:17:52.665 I am gonna take a quick moment. 00:17:52.665 --> 00:18:01.545 I do wanna check the chat and the q and a, make sure that we've, you if anybody has questions that we are, we are gonna go ahead and make sure to address those. 00:18:01.545 --> 00:18:17.500 And I don't see any in there right now, but, again, if you have, if you have questions, do ahead and feel free, to put them in the chat or into the q and a box, and we will, we'll definitely make sure that those get answered. 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.780 And, again, I do wanna take a quick moment and pause as well. 00:18:21.585 --> 00:18:30.225 For the for the attendees, you should all be able to see, again, myself and Isaiah kinda off in the corner, and then the main screen is the PowerPoint. 00:18:30.225 --> 00:18:31.505 If that's not the case, let me know. 00:18:31.505 --> 00:18:33.265 I can try to do some adjusting here. 00:18:33.265 --> 00:18:35.205 I think we're set, but I always like to check-in. 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:41.000 It would be kind of a bummer to have to sit here and listen to this and not have at least some reference in slides. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:42.440 I wanna make sure you're all set there. 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:49.835 So, if you, if you can let me know that that would be, great. 00:18:49.895 --> 00:18:50.375 Okay. 00:18:50.375 --> 00:18:52.135 Sounds like we're doing right there, you guys. 00:18:52.135 --> 00:18:53.255 I appreciate the feedback. 00:18:53.255 --> 00:18:54.715 Very helpful, by the way. 00:18:55.575 --> 00:18:56.075 Alright. 00:18:56.455 --> 00:18:57.355 Thanks, everyone. 00:18:59.015 --> 00:18:59.335 Okay. 00:18:59.335 --> 00:19:02.235 So we're gonna go ahead and get through, these next few slides. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.180 These are the six kind of key areas of competency achieved for our program. 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:08.920 I'm gonna go through them quickly. 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.920 Again we've kind of shortened some of these things down just because we do want to make time for Isaiah. 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:15.465 We know that it's really great to have that perspective from a student. 00:19:15.465 --> 00:19:19.805 So I'm pushing a little bit here to get through this so we can move on to Isaiah here shortly. 00:19:20.105 --> 00:19:25.405 So here are the six, areas of competency that we, do achieve through through our program. 00:19:25.465 --> 00:19:29.960 Of course foundations in psychological science and research, integrity and practice. 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:30.760 That's just huge. 00:19:30.760 --> 00:19:41.960 That should be a given, but it really is something that we pride ourselves in is is turning out amazing psychologists who really understand what it means to, to have integrity and practice. 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:45.785 Now part of that I wanna share, it's not just a concept that we just kind of say. 00:19:45.785 --> 00:19:49.005 It really goes right back to our model of integration. 00:19:49.065 --> 00:20:00.990 It comes back to us implementing that Catholic Christian philosophical and anthropological view of the person, which believes that each person is created with an inherent dignity and inherent integrity. 00:20:01.290 --> 00:20:05.050 So we acknowledge that right from the start when seeing our clients that is automatically built in. 00:20:05.050 --> 00:20:09.710 It's what it means to be human automatically is to have inherent dignity and inherent integrity. 00:20:09.770 --> 00:20:15.715 And so we really do value that, and that's a key concept that we make sure that you understand coming out of our program. 00:20:16.255 --> 00:20:19.875 Further, of course, the hallmark that I mentioned before, assessment and diagnosis. 00:20:20.415 --> 00:20:29.050 A big, you know, place to put a pin in would be right here for those of you that are pretty familiar with programs, with ID programs. 00:20:29.430 --> 00:20:40.310 I wanna note here and highlight, if you will, that our program has additional credit hours, you know, more than a couple of classes extra, if you will, extra in assessment and testing. 00:20:40.310 --> 00:20:42.570 That is a huge attribute of our program. 00:20:42.945 --> 00:20:50.565 And our students turn out very very well and have great competency in their ability to conduct assessment and determine diagnosis. 00:20:50.625 --> 00:21:05.890 And that again that's the real hallmark of our program is this extra training that we again, this is our faculty who created our curriculum or determining, you know what, students would do better if they had a little extra work in this area of assessment testing or in that area of assessment testing. 00:21:06.350 --> 00:21:09.230 That then has become an official part of our program. 00:21:09.230 --> 00:21:20.955 We have additional coursework in this area which adds significantly to your competency and really does prepare you very very well than in those externship and internship experiences. 00:21:20.955 --> 00:21:27.460 It's and it's actually feedback that even myself in admissions, I hear all the time about how well trained, our students are. 00:21:27.460 --> 00:21:35.480 And that really does come from this third point right here of assessment and diagnosis, testing, and adding that extra coursework in there for our students. 00:21:36.020 --> 00:21:47.215 Therapeutic intervention, again, key component of this, but it is important to understand that clinical psychology, we have that assessment and testing piece, but we also have the therapeutic intervention piece. 00:21:47.215 --> 00:22:08.310 That's what makes, clinical psychology so comprehensive is that we really go from a to z from, you you know, getting that initial understanding deeply of our client through testing and assessment all the way through understanding them, you know, and and implementing you know, creating a treatment plan, implementing that treatment treatment plan, and and that's comes directly through that therapeutic intervention. 00:22:08.370 --> 00:22:16.215 So we go from testing and assessment and diagnosis potentially all the way through to implementing a thorough comprehensive treatment plan. 00:22:16.215 --> 00:22:16.715 Okay? 00:22:17.655 --> 00:22:22.235 Further, we do talk a lot about in the program and we this again, key component is professional roles. 00:22:22.490 --> 00:22:39.465 As you might have noticed in that apa.org definition of psychology clinical psychology, there are multiple roles that a clinical psychologist takes on in their work and that's actually important for us to to, share with, you know, and teach in our program is really what are all those different roles and preparing you for those. 00:22:39.465 --> 00:22:41.545 So not just the idea of therapists. 00:22:41.545 --> 00:22:43.465 It's like, you know, it's a lot more than that. 00:22:43.465 --> 00:22:48.825 There's a lot of professional, areas which you can be involved in as a psychologist. 00:22:48.825 --> 00:22:53.485 So we teach those, and again, it's a high valued component of our program. 00:22:53.780 --> 00:22:59.080 And then of course kind of tying in with the second bullet is clinical practice from a Catholic integrated perspective. 00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:02.200 Again, the hallmark, another hallmark of our program. 00:23:02.260 --> 00:23:05.080 Again completely unique to us is that full integration. 00:23:06.675 --> 00:23:07.795 I do want to take a minute. 00:23:07.795 --> 00:23:15.875 Here's a little bit, from a few students that are in our program right now and it's just it's kind of fun to just take a moment and and read a little bit about why they like our program. 00:23:15.875 --> 00:23:19.715 We're getting we're not gonna focus too much on this slide tonight because we have Isaiah with us. 00:23:19.715 --> 00:23:23.830 So it's like we have the ability, you know, to have him here. 00:23:23.890 --> 00:23:25.490 So we're gonna kind of move quickly through this. 00:23:25.490 --> 00:23:29.730 But I did wanna just acknowledge this and give you guys a chance to read through that. 00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:30.230 Okay? 00:23:30.690 --> 00:23:37.670 In the meantime, I'm going to, answer two questions while you guys look at this slide, and I'm also gonna go ahead and move to the next slide, which is about our faculty. 00:23:37.965 --> 00:23:42.625 We have got a couple of questions here that I'll answer, while you guys look through those slides. 00:23:43.005 --> 00:23:47.025 One is do students receive a stipend for extern and predoctoral internships? 00:23:47.645 --> 00:23:49.585 Let me answer that very briefly. 00:23:49.725 --> 00:23:51.005 Externships are not paid. 00:23:51.165 --> 00:23:56.360 That's that's universal typically in the in study programs that externships are not able to be paid. 00:23:56.820 --> 00:24:00.340 It's considered like basically coursework and that's the reason for that. 00:24:00.340 --> 00:24:06.580 But however, predoctoral internships, based because of their level and the skills that they're requiring and again it's different. 00:24:06.580 --> 00:24:09.435 That's a whole other stage, if you will, of the program. 00:24:09.435 --> 00:24:14.315 You really do have to understand that an externship and internship, while sounding similar, are very different. 00:24:14.315 --> 00:24:18.235 When you hit that internship, you know, that's you're there. 00:24:18.235 --> 00:24:32.700 I mean, you should be at a at a really high level in your program, and you should be very, you know, really ready, for that next step of engaging that internship, fine tuning your skills so that you can graduate, very competently, you know, as as a clinical psychologist. 00:24:32.760 --> 00:24:35.395 So the pre doc internships are paid. 00:24:35.395 --> 00:24:37.015 They are they do receive a stipend. 00:24:37.315 --> 00:24:39.495 I will share that the stipends vary significantly. 00:24:39.875 --> 00:24:46.275 As you can imagine, it's based a little bit on, like, region, maybe responsibility levels, organizations that you work for. 00:24:46.275 --> 00:24:57.300 So for example, an internship, a pre doc internship, even an APA accredited one in the Midwest may not pay as much as an APA accredited internship, you know, on a coast. 00:24:57.300 --> 00:25:00.280 You know, again it's living expenses that are involved in those determinations. 00:25:00.825 --> 00:25:12.665 What our students offer us as feedback is, that the internships typically across the board they are able to, to pay for your living expenses, while you're, you know, living there for that year. 00:25:12.665 --> 00:25:18.800 So that's a good thing is that it does offer you that ability to cover your expenses while you're engaged in that internship. 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:22.500 So that final year you are receiving a stipend there. 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:31.725 The next question that came up is is transfer of credits possible for students who already have a master's degree or courses or credits in a related field? 00:25:32.985 --> 00:25:33.305 Yes. 00:25:33.305 --> 00:25:35.305 In short, transfer credits are possible. 00:25:35.305 --> 00:25:45.010 It's important to note that across these programs, not just DMU, but across PsyD programs in general, we're speaking again about AP accredited programs, These programs are are comprehensive. 00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.570 They're built to be comprehensive from a to z. 00:25:48.030 --> 00:25:52.610 So these institutions do want and they need you to have their full education. 00:25:52.990 --> 00:25:58.290 So do expect, some pretty tight limits on the number of credits that you can transfer in. 00:25:58.895 --> 00:26:01.375 Right now I think DUU is kind of right in the middle. 00:26:01.375 --> 00:26:02.915 They're eighteen credit hours. 00:26:03.135 --> 00:26:05.155 Some are less, some are twelve or fifteen. 00:26:05.295 --> 00:26:08.995 The maximum I've ever seen is maybe twenty four and that's actually quite rare. 00:26:09.295 --> 00:26:12.435 So eighteen credit hours is what you could bring into our program. 00:26:12.780 --> 00:26:15.840 Again, do know that this is a part of the accreditation. 00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:23.820 This is actually a part of what and how, you know, what creates a good study program is having a comprehensive program. 00:26:23.820 --> 00:26:26.940 So just note that that's that's not even a DMU thing. 00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:31.595 That is almost a universal thing across, accredited PsyD programs. 00:26:31.655 --> 00:26:31.975 Okay? 00:26:31.975 --> 00:26:36.855 That there's gonna be a limit there to what you can transfer in, and it's gonna be around that eighteen hour mark. 00:26:36.855 --> 00:26:39.655 That's a pretty pretty common number that you'll see there. 00:26:39.655 --> 00:26:44.030 So I hope that that answers, those couple of questions that that you had. 00:26:44.030 --> 00:26:45.570 Thank you for those, by the way. 00:26:45.790 --> 00:26:47.150 I do wanna touch on licensing. 00:26:47.150 --> 00:26:48.350 Again, I'm trying to push through this. 00:26:48.350 --> 00:26:50.510 I'm gonna I'm gonna go quickly through this. 00:26:50.510 --> 00:26:56.130 The important thing to understand about licensing is that licensing is something that happens after you graduate. 00:26:56.190 --> 00:27:01.595 Again, That is a part of the PsyD field, not a DMU attribute that is universal in the field. 00:27:01.595 --> 00:27:04.715 Licensing does not begin until you've, completed a program. 00:27:04.715 --> 00:27:05.215 Okay? 00:27:06.155 --> 00:27:08.635 And that's even the case with other mental health professions as well. 00:27:08.635 --> 00:27:15.630 It's a post graduation activity, which the student or the new graduate engages themselves. 00:27:15.630 --> 00:27:22.670 So you as a student who's finished your degree or you can start it a little bit before graduation and the faculty at DMU actually help you with that. 00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:30.855 We do train you and and actually give you understanding of what licensure is, what you need to know, how to prepare for it for your state that you're hoping to be licensed. 00:27:30.855 --> 00:27:35.575 And again, we don't you're not going to be, you know, you know, in the dark on that one. 00:27:35.575 --> 00:27:39.015 We're definitely going to be sharing with you how to pursue that process. 00:27:39.015 --> 00:27:41.430 Man, remember, the university wants you licensed. 00:27:41.430 --> 00:27:42.630 We want you to be successful. 00:27:42.630 --> 00:27:45.770 We want you to walk out knowing how to navigate this process. 00:27:45.990 --> 00:27:51.910 And do keep in mind that everybody who, is graduating from a mental health professional like this is pursuing the same thing as you are. 00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:53.925 So you're all in it together, if you will. 00:27:54.165 --> 00:27:56.005 So it's something that you do initiate. 00:27:56.005 --> 00:27:57.385 It's student initiated. 00:27:57.525 --> 00:28:05.545 It happens after graduation and it takes about one year of supervised clinical experience, to achieve licensure. 00:28:05.765 --> 00:28:09.940 Okay, So those are again a few little, hallmarks there regarding licensure. 00:28:13.760 --> 00:28:14.080 Okay. 00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:14.880 That's a great question. 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.200 Someone asked, I kind of I knew this would pop up. 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.415 Someone asked since CMUs in Virginia will students be prepared for licensure specifically in Virginia or other states? 00:28:22.555 --> 00:28:27.855 Now granted our program does of course, I mean we're going to meet those Virginia standards. 00:28:27.915 --> 00:28:36.430 So certainly the thing that's important to understand is that it is state dependent but there is some some universality with the APA accreditation. 00:28:36.490 --> 00:28:39.790 So our program is is built to that APA accreditation standard. 00:28:40.250 --> 00:28:45.530 We're very fortunate we actually go past that as I mentioned with those extra courses, in testing and assessment. 00:28:45.530 --> 00:28:51.115 And also we've I didn't even mention that we have additional courses, of course, because of integration where we teach integration. 00:28:51.255 --> 00:28:52.935 So you've got a little bit above and beyond. 00:28:52.935 --> 00:28:58.935 So within this ID program, you're gonna find that there's more consistency from state to state. 00:28:58.935 --> 00:29:12.870 So in short, yes of course our program is going to be be licensed in the state of Virginia, but because there is more universality with the PsyD degree in general, it is a lot of students find that, they're prepared for many, many states. 00:29:12.870 --> 00:29:13.370 Okay? 00:29:13.430 --> 00:29:17.850 Again, I'm not gonna say blanket across the board every that's something we can't say as a university. 00:29:18.595 --> 00:29:24.675 But again, you're going to find that across the board, there's consistency there, with state's requirements. 00:29:24.675 --> 00:29:24.995 Okay? 00:29:24.995 --> 00:29:31.155 With the PsyD program counseling, social work does vary a little bit more, but PsyD, thankfully is is a little more consistent. 00:29:31.155 --> 00:29:32.355 So I hope that answers the question. 00:29:32.355 --> 00:29:33.960 I know a couple of you have that question. 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:34.460 Okay? 00:29:34.600 --> 00:29:36.520 I hope that that answers that for you. 00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:37.020 Alright? 00:29:38.280 --> 00:29:39.720 Let me check on everything else. 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:40.220 Okay. 00:29:43.560 --> 00:29:43.880 Oops. 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:44.760 I'm so sorry, guys. 00:29:44.760 --> 00:29:48.060 I'm going I'm kind of going a little I think I skipped ahead there a couple. 00:29:52.205 --> 00:29:52.605 Alright. 00:29:52.605 --> 00:29:58.225 So so this one is I know the slide I had it before, but I can't I'm not having a difficult time going backwards. 00:29:58.445 --> 00:29:59.565 We'll go ahead and talk about this. 00:29:59.565 --> 00:30:10.000 One of the things we want you to keep in mind, we're gonna talk here about, like, making, making the tuition affordable, and how does you know, how much the program costs, those kind of details. 00:30:10.380 --> 00:30:13.680 The the thing I want you to keep in mind that this is an investment. 00:30:14.235 --> 00:30:15.435 So, we talked with this. 00:30:15.435 --> 00:30:20.155 There's a slide a couple back that talks about, like, if you purchase a car, it's not really an investment. 00:30:20.155 --> 00:30:21.215 An investment depreciates. 00:30:21.275 --> 00:30:21.835 Remember that? 00:30:21.835 --> 00:30:23.515 And I've said this in other webinars. 00:30:23.515 --> 00:30:26.335 My dad always taught me, can be a car is never an investment. 00:30:26.630 --> 00:30:28.790 It's a liability because it depreciates in value. 00:30:28.790 --> 00:30:29.850 Certainly, it's useful. 00:30:30.070 --> 00:30:33.190 Certainly, you need it, but it's very clear that it does not increase in value. 00:30:33.190 --> 00:30:37.210 It doesn't offer financial value, in and of itself. 00:30:37.270 --> 00:30:38.330 It's it's a liability. 00:30:38.915 --> 00:30:43.655 Education, I think, is something that we really, we really wanna acknowledge that it is an investment. 00:30:44.115 --> 00:30:45.155 It does appreciate. 00:30:45.155 --> 00:30:47.015 It does bring a a value. 00:30:47.475 --> 00:30:51.415 Obviously, there's the value of the field and what it does for just personal edification. 00:30:51.920 --> 00:31:03.860 The fact that you're able to be in a helping profession, serving other people, really being really bringing authentic holistic deep deep flourishing, to families and to individuals. 00:31:04.345 --> 00:31:05.145 And that's right there. 00:31:05.145 --> 00:31:06.985 I mean, it's it's a pretty beautiful career. 00:31:06.985 --> 00:31:19.640 And the fact that that's also something that can be monetized for you, that in a sense that you are able to earn a living doing that really does, I guess, you could say it not only truly is a financial investment, but it's also a deep personal investment. 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:25.160 So we really try to acknowledge both of those within the university that there's personal part and then there's also the professional part. 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.300 We understand that our students are doing this as a profession. 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:46.275 One of the things I didn't mention, earlier, I mean I don't always mention it in every webinar, but the the program even encourages, you know, students learning how to tithe through their talent as a clinical psychologist, something that's encouraged in our program is, you know, is tithing of this talent, and as well as, of course, being it being your profession. 00:31:46.770 --> 00:31:50.210 But this being an investment, you do actually see an increase. 00:31:50.370 --> 00:31:55.350 You know, so you are investing initially in the education, but you're getting a return off of that. 00:31:55.490 --> 00:31:58.550 This program is, a hundred and twenty two credit hours. 00:31:59.005 --> 00:32:04.945 It's a it's a thousand 95 per credit hour, so it comes out at around a 133,000 for the entire program. 00:32:05.165 --> 00:32:06.365 That's all five years. 00:32:06.365 --> 00:32:08.705 It's a little different in pricing from undergrad. 00:32:09.005 --> 00:32:13.985 Undergrad, some folks might be more used to paying, like, this is how much it is each year to go to university. 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.440 In graduate school, you're gonna find that it's priced by the credit hour. 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:23.560 So, like, all inclusive, you're gonna be talking around a 140,000, that's tuition and fees. 00:32:23.560 --> 00:32:23.800 Okay? 00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:25.000 For all five years. 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:25.320 Okay? 00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:26.600 That's we're talking about there. 00:32:26.600 --> 00:32:31.375 So a 122 credit hours over five years around the $140,000 mark. 00:32:31.435 --> 00:32:32.655 Wanna be very clear. 00:32:32.795 --> 00:32:36.635 We acknowledge that, you know, that that's, you know, that's the number that's without aid. 00:32:36.635 --> 00:32:36.875 Okay. 00:32:36.875 --> 00:32:39.360 That's without any kind of aid offering of any kind. 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:40.320 That's the wrong number. 00:32:40.320 --> 00:32:51.520 And then you do have to account further your living expenses as, you know, a part of your educational, endeavor as well and how you do, you know, compensate for those expenses for living. 00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:57.895 And a lot of folks do that, and there's just many, many ways, that you can come to, take care of your living expenses. 00:32:58.435 --> 00:33:02.275 What I wanted to do on this slide is highlight a little bit of the scholarship opportunities we have. 00:33:02.275 --> 00:33:03.735 We have a lot of different scholarships. 00:33:03.795 --> 00:33:05.735 Some of these, they can be combined. 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:14.000 One of the things about our program is we try very, very hard to ensure that all of our students receive some kind of aid if they qualify. 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:14.960 You do have to qualify. 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:16.100 You fill out the FAFSA. 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.260 We do ask that you apply for scholarships. 00:33:18.915 --> 00:33:24.455 I did put the website for financial aid down there so you can, learn more through the financial aid website. 00:33:24.595 --> 00:33:32.375 But we do take pride in our ability, and our efforts to, to offer scholarships to qualifying students. 00:33:32.790 --> 00:33:34.970 We also have a 50% scholarship. 00:33:35.110 --> 00:33:36.390 We do one per cohort. 00:33:36.390 --> 00:33:44.490 So each year, we are offering 50% off of tuition, to to one member coming into the cohort. 00:33:45.030 --> 00:33:47.190 Our cohorts average between ten and twenty. 00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:55.395 So, again if you're a well qualified student it's actually a pretty good, a pretty good number in your favor, to receive a 50% off. 00:33:55.395 --> 00:34:02.295 Again that would be for a well qualified student, but I definitely want to talk about that because that's a really big deal for us is to have that scholarship. 00:34:02.780 --> 00:34:07.440 That is the maximum scholarship that that we do offer and it is academically based. 00:34:08.060 --> 00:34:10.940 Beyond that, we do have a PsyD transfer scholarship in there. 00:34:10.940 --> 00:34:17.385 We've got international student scholarships, public servant scholarships, patriot scholarships, faith and hope stocks. 00:34:17.385 --> 00:34:24.205 And, again, you can combine some of these, and our financial aid will help you, to be able to learn how to do that and just how to apply. 00:34:24.585 --> 00:34:28.290 Admissions will also, be able to assist you further with applying for aid. 00:34:28.370 --> 00:34:45.315 But the takeaway here is to understand that we really do take aid very seriously, and we do really want to help you to cover the cost of your tuition through a combination of student loans, scholarships, some students even do external scholarships help as well. 00:34:45.375 --> 00:34:52.355 There's lots of ways in which we can, assist you with this with, you know, covering, the expenses related to the program. 00:34:52.415 --> 00:34:53.775 And do know that it's doable. 00:34:54.015 --> 00:35:14.645 Before I kind of move on this one side, I think it's important to to share with you that you need to remember that every student that comes to DMU has faced the same questions that you face, you know, about even, you know, the move, if you're moving from far away, you know, getting into the university and into the program, understanding clinical psychology, and and understanding financial aid and how to make this financially work. 00:35:14.645 --> 00:35:17.145 And the answer is it is very doable. 00:35:17.605 --> 00:35:21.945 And so we encourage you not to get discouraged, but rather to seek out our support and our help. 00:35:22.005 --> 00:35:26.370 And and we're really, glad to show you, you know, how that can be made possible for you. 00:35:26.610 --> 00:35:27.010 Okay. 00:35:27.010 --> 00:35:31.510 Again, if you have any questions on that, do, feel free to let me know on anything related to finances. 00:35:32.930 --> 00:35:35.090 Quickly gonna try to push this entrance requirements. 00:35:35.090 --> 00:35:36.950 We do require a baccalaureate degree. 00:35:37.490 --> 00:35:42.245 Minimum three point o on a four point o scale, is required for consideration. 00:35:42.385 --> 00:35:47.205 You do have to also, we do prefer a background in psychology, although it's not required. 00:35:47.745 --> 00:36:02.030 We do ask that you consider the whole process here of filling out the application, submitting supporting documents like your letters of recommendations via our form, GRE scores, begin the financial aid process, transcripts, all that good stuff. 00:36:02.650 --> 00:36:05.770 We are actually this year, we are actually I do wanna share there. 00:36:05.770 --> 00:36:10.990 I do see that there's, like, a an error on bullet five that we weren't able I didn't catch earlier. 00:36:11.135 --> 00:36:13.135 We are not doing Zoom interviews this year. 00:36:13.135 --> 00:36:19.615 We're very pleased to share that we are are going to make every effort to offer all of our interview days in person. 00:36:19.615 --> 00:36:22.355 We really value that in person interaction. 00:36:22.575 --> 00:36:32.700 We understand what it brings to you as a prospective applicant to actually come to our campus to meet our faculty, meet our staff, meet our students, and just have that experience. 00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:44.925 So this year, we're you know, again, unless something changes with the pandemic, we are going to be offering all of our interview days, associated with, of course, you know, the application deadlines, in person in Sterling. 00:36:44.925 --> 00:36:45.425 Okay? 00:36:46.605 --> 00:36:52.925 And then the last step, of course, is we just note that we do begin our terms begin each August just once per year. 00:36:52.925 --> 00:36:53.425 Alright? 00:36:54.790 --> 00:36:55.830 There are a couple of things here. 00:36:55.830 --> 00:36:58.150 This is kind of a recap of the previous slide. 00:36:58.150 --> 00:37:01.190 I did wanna just take note on this slide of the GRE code. 00:37:01.190 --> 00:37:04.570 It's 5639 under Divine Mercy University. 00:37:04.950 --> 00:37:06.970 That's something I really wanted you to take away. 00:37:07.415 --> 00:37:13.995 We also do have, a $55 application fee, that we you all should have an email too that gives you the code. 00:37:14.295 --> 00:37:16.535 If you wanna do we are doing an app waiver code. 00:37:16.535 --> 00:37:20.295 If you wanna have that $55 fee, waived, you can do that. 00:37:20.295 --> 00:37:25.320 And, again, even as a part of attending this webinar, you get that, the application fee waived. 00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:25.960 Okay? 00:37:26.180 --> 00:37:28.100 I do wanna share with international applicants. 00:37:28.100 --> 00:37:29.700 I'm not going to go through all of this. 00:37:29.700 --> 00:37:39.015 But if you do, if you do have, a first language that is other than English, you would be required to take the TOEFL or the IELTS test. 00:37:39.555 --> 00:37:45.655 Further, if you have an international transcript from a university out of The United States, you would also need to do a course by course evaluation. 00:37:45.715 --> 00:37:49.255 And, again, our admissions team can help you with all of those details. 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.160 I did want to share here. 00:37:51.160 --> 00:37:52.280 I know I'm pushing guys. 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.120 I hope I'm not going too fast for you. 00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:56.680 You will get all of this, in an email to you as well. 00:37:56.680 --> 00:37:57.800 So you can always review that. 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.400 And everything I've shared here is also available, throughout the website. 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:05.545 And I'm again happy to answer questions, after this through email as well. 00:38:05.685 --> 00:38:07.305 We have three application deadlines. 00:38:07.685 --> 00:38:11.365 You as an applicant can choose any of these three that works for you. 00:38:11.365 --> 00:38:13.065 You might say, okay, well, why three? 00:38:13.125 --> 00:38:19.890 And the reason for three is we acknowledge that not everybody is able to all be ready to apply it like one particular deadline. 00:38:20.350 --> 00:38:28.610 We acknowledge it takes time for the GRE, maybe you're discerning, you know, all different kinds of factors can play into your application process. 00:38:28.750 --> 00:38:31.970 So we do have three options available to you. 00:38:32.435 --> 00:38:43.895 I do want to share here with you that if you are an academically well qualified student, I do want to share that the October 29 deadline is the deadline that you're going to want to shoot for. 00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:49.430 That deadline will offer you the most consideration for the 50% scholarship. 00:38:49.810 --> 00:38:59.670 And again remember that the 50% scholarship is by application only meaning you do have to actually apply for it and it is for those who have a 3.5 undergraduate GPA or higher. 00:38:59.810 --> 00:39:00.310 Okay? 00:39:00.605 --> 00:39:05.505 If you're in that category, you're gonna wanna take note of the October 29 deadline. 00:39:06.205 --> 00:39:11.185 Further, I do wanna share that you're gonna see, like, the deadline, you're gonna see an interview date. 00:39:11.485 --> 00:39:13.325 Very important to note what this means. 00:39:13.565 --> 00:39:16.800 I do really hope hope this, all makes sense to everyone. 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.940 But we at DMU, we have an interview, we have a deadline, and then we have an interview date that's required. 00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:32.565 So if you're planning on making that October 29, deadline for your application, that means all materials, everything has to be in by that October 29 deadline. 00:39:33.025 --> 00:39:37.505 Further, it means you should be prepared to interview on November 12. 00:39:37.505 --> 00:39:45.710 Interviews are not guaranteed, but if you are going if you are invited to interview, that interview date would be November 12. 00:39:45.710 --> 00:39:54.035 And you can see the other two deadlines below December 31, interview date January 14, final deadline February 18, Interview would be March 4. 00:39:54.335 --> 00:40:01.935 Now that's a pretty short timeline between when everything's due and when your interview is, and you don't know if you're invited to interview until everything's in. 00:40:01.935 --> 00:40:04.435 We review it and then issue you an invitation. 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:23.245 So one of the things I really encourage, applicants to do is try very hard to get things in even two to three weeks before that deadline because basically as soon as your entire application package is complete, we will review it as quickly as possible and then issue you, an invitation to interview if you qualify. 00:40:23.785 --> 00:40:31.885 You want as much time as possible for planning especially if you're having to fly or travel a long distance or take a day off of work or school. 00:40:31.890 --> 00:40:33.410 You wanna know that well in advance. 00:40:33.410 --> 00:40:39.650 So I actually encourage folks to look at the date here and back it up three weeks and make that your deadline. 00:40:39.650 --> 00:40:45.270 So you just have plenty of time to get things in and and plan, you know, God willing, that you're interviewed. 00:40:46.445 --> 00:40:49.245 And we really do try to interview everyone who's qualified. 00:40:49.245 --> 00:40:54.545 Again, we don't guarantee it, but we make every effort to interview, everyone who's qualified. 00:40:54.605 --> 00:40:55.085 Okay? 00:40:55.085 --> 00:40:57.165 If you have questions about that, let me know. 00:40:57.405 --> 00:41:05.770 I do wanna take a moment and, as well, kind of in line with the idea of visiting campus and interviewing, we do have an open house coming up on September 24. 00:41:05.830 --> 00:41:06.550 It's about nine a. 00:41:06.550 --> 00:41:07.110 M to five p. 00:41:07.110 --> 00:41:07.190 M. 00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:08.070 It's a full day. 00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:09.990 This is actually great because it's a no pressure day. 00:41:09.990 --> 00:41:11.430 There's no interviews this day. 00:41:11.430 --> 00:41:17.885 This is just a come and see kind of day where you can actually come to the interview or to come to the campus for this this visit day. 00:41:17.885 --> 00:41:18.925 Again, no interviews. 00:41:18.925 --> 00:41:24.865 There's a faculty roundtable and we really do cover and this day we cover in detail so much about the program. 00:41:25.085 --> 00:41:26.625 We have a panel with students. 00:41:26.845 --> 00:41:28.365 It really is a great great day. 00:41:28.365 --> 00:41:34.330 So I really encourage all of you if you are serious about the university, again, we recognize it's a huge endeavor. 00:41:34.470 --> 00:41:35.750 It's five years of your life. 00:41:35.750 --> 00:41:39.830 It's a lot of personal investment, financial investment, a lot of discernment goes into this. 00:41:39.830 --> 00:41:47.795 It's definitely worth your time and your investment in coming here to visit us on September twenty first twenty fourth. 00:41:47.935 --> 00:41:49.695 So if you're interested in that, let us know. 00:41:49.695 --> 00:41:52.515 Again, you should already have an invitation in your email. 00:41:52.575 --> 00:41:54.735 If you don't reach out, I'm gonna get you one. 00:41:55.055 --> 00:41:59.560 But do go ahead and mark, that date, okay, as as an option just to visit. 00:41:59.560 --> 00:42:00.220 No pressure. 00:42:00.600 --> 00:42:03.720 Again, this does bring us to the end of the webinar here. 00:42:03.720 --> 00:42:05.340 Finally, Isaiah has been so patient. 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.020 Again, takeaway here my email and our phone number for our office. 00:42:09.515 --> 00:42:23.020 Without further ado, what I'd like to do right now is go ahead and ask Isaiah to unmute, turn on his camera, and I wanna just open this up for q and a with everybody here and for Isaiah to to share a little bit, anything that I've missed or any thoughts. 00:42:23.020 --> 00:42:33.840 So while you guys are thinking about questions that you might have and again I encourage you here you have a student in front of you, I definitely, we want to encourage you to ask questions. 00:42:34.115 --> 00:42:38.295 What I'd like to do, Isaiah, is just ask if you wanna start with a little introduction about yourself. 00:42:38.515 --> 00:42:45.255 Just share some things that you would like folks here to know about you and maybe how it's relative to the program and just kinda take it from there. 00:42:45.715 --> 00:42:55.110 I I'm originally from the the state of South Dakota, And so I grew up there most of my life, went to school at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln. 00:42:56.290 --> 00:43:01.190 Was I studied psychology there, but I kind of intended to go into the the medical field. 00:43:02.225 --> 00:43:10.165 And then after kind of in the midst of my undergraduate, I, discerned that I wanted to go to the seminary, the Catholic seminary, and just study to be a priest. 00:43:11.505 --> 00:43:21.130 So I had this love for psychology that was kind of there, I think, from an early age, just wanting to know how people function, why they do the things that they do. 00:43:21.990 --> 00:43:27.830 And then I found myself in seminary learning all these philosophical truths about humans. 00:43:27.830 --> 00:43:38.165 One of the first courses I took was, philosophy of the human person, learning person body and soul, and that there's this profound dignity attached to to being human. 00:43:39.905 --> 00:43:53.730 Later discerned out of the seminary, returned to Nebraska to finish up my degree, and, deciding at this point, well, I don't really wanna go into, medicine, but I do, like, have this desire to care for people. 00:43:54.110 --> 00:44:00.050 And I also have learned, again, like, this philosophy about humans and and their goodness. 00:44:01.165 --> 00:44:02.525 So I took a year off. 00:44:02.525 --> 00:44:04.365 I built pipe organs for a year. 00:44:05.005 --> 00:44:06.765 I always love telling people that. 00:44:06.765 --> 00:44:08.365 I it's a pretty unique job. 00:44:08.365 --> 00:44:09.105 It was fun. 00:44:10.365 --> 00:44:18.980 But, ultimately, that led me I decided to then do a year of service with the homeless in Denver with an organization called Christ in the City. 00:44:19.680 --> 00:44:28.375 And there, I like to say that all the things I had been, learning about and dreaming about about psychology, philosophy. 00:44:28.755 --> 00:44:39.255 It was this incarnational experience of of encountering people on the street in this profound suffering, mental anguish, I mean, substance abuse, what have you. 00:44:39.950 --> 00:44:44.750 And just actually experiencing that firsthand made everything kinda click for me. 00:44:44.750 --> 00:44:45.310 Like, okay. 00:44:45.310 --> 00:44:51.730 I have the ability to, affect change and bring hope to people in the worst moments of their life. 00:44:52.055 --> 00:44:54.535 And so for me, at that point, it was just very clear. 00:44:54.535 --> 00:44:59.755 Everything was starting to converge, and I, felt more so that I wanted to pursue psychology. 00:45:00.295 --> 00:45:06.615 And so DMU was kinda my first choice because everything that I had been learning about kinda just, again, converged here. 00:45:06.615 --> 00:45:06.775 Right? 00:45:06.775 --> 00:45:11.640 The the psychology, the philosophy, the theology, and it just seemed like the perfect fit. 00:45:11.640 --> 00:45:15.880 So I applied, and long story short, I got in. 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:22.125 And in my second year now, and it's been absolutely more than I could've, hoped for. 00:45:22.285 --> 00:45:26.765 I I, like, have so much I've had so much knowledge shoved in my brain the last year. 00:45:26.765 --> 00:45:31.185 I, like, don't even know how it's possible, but it's just been a beautiful and awesome journey. 00:45:31.965 --> 00:45:35.520 So That's pretty awesome. 00:45:35.580 --> 00:45:35.820 I know. 00:45:35.820 --> 00:45:50.915 And I've I've had the privilege of hearing Isaiah's story, more than once, and it it's still it's always great to hear it every time because it's just, it really speaks to the heart of the mission and why one would want to potentially pursue this kind of work. 00:45:50.915 --> 00:45:51.795 I mean, it really is. 00:45:51.795 --> 00:45:54.295 It just shows it's so much more than a profession. 00:45:54.435 --> 00:45:55.095 You know? 00:45:55.475 --> 00:45:56.775 It really is a calling. 00:45:57.395 --> 00:46:08.880 What I'd like to do, I wanna take a moment and just see if there's any again, if anyone has questions here, There is a unique again, it's a unique opportunity to, like, dive into kind of the world perspective from a student. 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:09.120 Right? 00:46:09.120 --> 00:46:14.480 You know, the DMU world perspective, you know, from from a from a student's lens, if you will. 00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:18.100 I do wanna give a chance to see if we have any questions that that pop up. 00:46:18.275 --> 00:46:33.980 But while we're waiting for questions to come up, I did wanna ask you, Isaiah, if you if you think anything that I've covered, especially I mean, I know the big hot buttons for prospective students are going to be like finances and understanding integration and kind of like what is clinical psychology? 00:46:33.980 --> 00:46:35.340 How do you know if you're a fit? 00:46:35.340 --> 00:46:35.500 Yeah. 00:46:35.500 --> 00:46:38.700 I don't know if there's any of those you feel like you'd like to address. 00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:41.180 I know those are kind of the three that I hear a lot. 00:46:41.180 --> 00:46:47.325 If I have to just put things into into buckets, those would be like the three buckets that I hear a lot from prospective students. 00:46:47.325 --> 00:46:50.445 So I don't know if you could talk pick one of those and talk a little bit about it. 00:46:50.605 --> 00:46:54.305 I think that could be helpful to some of the folks here. 00:46:54.445 --> 00:46:54.765 Sure. 00:46:54.765 --> 00:46:55.265 Sure. 00:46:55.565 --> 00:46:56.445 What was the second one? 00:46:56.445 --> 00:46:57.345 You said finances. 00:46:58.300 --> 00:47:01.520 So it would be, finances and integration. 00:47:01.980 --> 00:47:02.380 Yeah. 00:47:02.380 --> 00:47:03.020 That was Okay. 00:47:03.020 --> 00:47:05.520 And then, clinical psychology. 00:47:05.740 --> 00:47:07.420 And, yeah, I'm understanding clinical psych. 00:47:07.420 --> 00:47:09.520 We compare contrast of Sure. 00:47:09.580 --> 00:47:09.975 Yeah. 00:47:10.215 --> 00:47:10.455 Yeah. 00:47:10.455 --> 00:47:10.955 Exactly. 00:47:11.095 --> 00:47:12.775 So, that's kind of a tricky one. 00:47:13.015 --> 00:47:19.835 Counseling and psychology have so much overlap in the mental health field, and I think it can be kinda tough to, like, parse out the differences. 00:47:19.975 --> 00:47:29.720 I think you covered a bit, as in the realm of clinical psychology, especially looking at being a a psychologist, assessment is a huge part of that. 00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:34.580 So the ability to give and administer IQ tests, personality tests. 00:47:34.580 --> 00:47:36.820 Like, maybe you've heard of the Rorschach test. 00:47:36.820 --> 00:47:46.165 Like, that's, an ability you have as a clinical psychologist to make these determinations, to make diagnoses, and also to be a therapist. 00:47:46.165 --> 00:47:46.485 Right? 00:47:46.485 --> 00:47:54.180 So if if you have this desire to sit with people and they're suffering, You have that as as part of clinical psychology. 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.500 And then kind of, yeah, the assessment being unique to psychologists. 00:48:00.080 --> 00:48:01.280 You can also teach. 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:11.735 That's not necessarily unique to psychologists, but it definitely you can teach at a higher level if if that's something you wanted to adjunct at a university later on. 00:48:12.115 --> 00:48:13.095 You have that ability. 00:48:13.955 --> 00:48:17.895 Counseling, and I've had a lot of friends start to get into the field of counseling. 00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:22.340 It's usually a master's degree, and you're doing a lot of those same things. 00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:22.580 Right? 00:48:22.580 --> 00:48:31.320 Like, sitting with people and they're suffering, but it's you're not necessarily diving in as deep to, let's say, the biological. 00:48:31.805 --> 00:48:39.405 So as as psychologists, we're looking at brain and how that affects things, if it if it highlights things at all. 00:48:39.405 --> 00:48:45.585 So this is a five year program, and you're taking, you know, five your first couple years, you take five classes a semester. 00:48:46.020 --> 00:48:48.200 I have friends that are doing a master's program. 00:48:48.260 --> 00:48:51.880 It's three years of taking one to two classes per semester. 00:48:52.180 --> 00:48:55.620 So I think that just speaks to how much more information you're learning. 00:48:55.620 --> 00:48:58.845 You're covering more theories in-depth, that type of thing. 00:48:59.165 --> 00:49:02.145 So it's just a much, much deeper look at everything. 00:49:03.965 --> 00:49:05.405 Happy to answer more questions on that. 00:49:05.405 --> 00:49:07.745 I feel like that's a general kind of look at that. 00:49:08.925 --> 00:49:11.025 So we do have a couple questions here. 00:49:12.680 --> 00:49:15.340 This is kind of getting into sort of these are some good ones. 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.680 Brass tacks. 00:49:16.680 --> 00:49:16.920 You know? 00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:19.260 So let's see. 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:21.400 Like, here's one of them. 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:25.020 It's like, what type of career backgrounds do people have when they come into the program? 00:49:26.825 --> 00:49:28.585 And then so then the rest are yeah. 00:49:28.585 --> 00:49:29.625 So we'll start with that one. 00:49:29.625 --> 00:49:32.605 So what kind of career backgrounds do people have when they come into the program? 00:49:32.665 --> 00:49:33.165 Sure. 00:49:33.865 --> 00:49:35.485 You see all sorts of things. 00:49:36.825 --> 00:49:38.425 That's kinda one of the beautiful things. 00:49:38.425 --> 00:49:41.930 You don't necessarily have to have a psychology degree to to do this program. 00:49:43.510 --> 00:49:45.110 We have a wide variety. 00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:56.090 There's, several priests and religious who are a part of the program and being sent by their diocese or by their order to study, so that they can minister to, other priests or seminarians. 00:49:57.195 --> 00:50:00.415 I know there's been people that have studied law in the past. 00:50:00.795 --> 00:50:01.195 Mhmm. 00:50:01.195 --> 00:50:04.875 You do have some people who, have have been in the mental health field. 00:50:04.875 --> 00:50:13.810 So counselors, who who have done counseling for a while and decided they wanted that something more, that deeper dive into things, so they come to study. 00:50:13.950 --> 00:50:20.450 I know people that have been in business, just in my cohort alone, business people. 00:50:21.310 --> 00:50:22.370 I'm trying to remember. 00:50:22.990 --> 00:50:23.890 A lot of missionaries. 00:50:24.585 --> 00:50:24.665 Yeah. 00:50:24.665 --> 00:50:26.185 I was saying mission I was thinking that too. 00:50:26.185 --> 00:50:31.545 Missionaries and service, I'd say, as a broad category is, like, service oriented fields. 00:50:31.545 --> 00:50:33.865 I know that's, like, that covers them all. 00:50:33.865 --> 00:50:38.285 I mean, because we've even had some folks who've done, like, human resources who've come into our program. 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:43.780 And that is I mean, that can be arguably, like, it's it's, again, kinda human contact, human services. 00:50:44.080 --> 00:50:53.920 That that's been few of those, individuals who are working, like, as you mentioned, I would say, in ministry, I would say, again, a part of that would be, like, ministry of some kind. 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.625 So So maybe not missionary, but, like, ministry, could be it. 00:50:57.625 --> 00:50:59.625 And like you said, then we have people who come out of the blue. 00:50:59.625 --> 00:51:01.145 I think the law is a great example. 00:51:01.145 --> 00:51:03.865 Business is a great example where they're they're just like, okay. 00:51:03.865 --> 00:51:05.145 I really feel called to this. 00:51:05.145 --> 00:51:07.805 Like, a second almost like a second career or second vocation. 00:51:09.040 --> 00:51:09.540 Yeah. 00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:11.600 So I'm gonna keep going through these questions. 00:51:11.600 --> 00:51:12.640 There's some good ones here. 00:51:12.640 --> 00:51:17.840 So what would you say are the average hours a week spent in class stead and then studying? 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.660 So, like, how many, like, hours in class and then how much studying, like, in hours per week? 00:51:23.215 --> 00:51:23.695 Yeah. 00:51:24.095 --> 00:51:27.295 So the first couple years, it's a lot more academic heavy. 00:51:27.295 --> 00:51:30.975 And as you go through the program, you shift to more of a clinical focus. 00:51:30.975 --> 00:51:38.480 So I would say the first couple years, you're doing somewhere between fifteen and seventeen credit hours per per week. 00:51:38.860 --> 00:51:40.720 So that's just in class time. 00:51:41.740 --> 00:51:49.275 And then what's the there there's the technical rule of, I think it's three hours for every hour spent in class. 00:51:49.995 --> 00:51:51.115 So multiply that. 00:51:51.115 --> 00:51:52.975 You're looking somewhere forty, fifty. 00:51:53.035 --> 00:51:54.155 I'm not math. 00:51:54.155 --> 00:51:58.095 This is not my degree, so I'm not sure exactly what that number is. 00:51:59.035 --> 00:52:04.735 But you're you'll find that there's, like, always plenty and plenty to do and and something to be reading. 00:52:05.420 --> 00:52:11.180 I I would say you can expect it to be, like, pretty much a full time type of thing. 00:52:11.180 --> 00:52:16.000 Like, you forty hours a week, you could definitely expect to be doing that. 00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:18.060 I think it depends, like, anything. 00:52:18.060 --> 00:52:19.100 It depends on the week. 00:52:19.100 --> 00:52:21.895 It depends on what the professors have assigned. 00:52:22.995 --> 00:52:28.695 But I think you can pretty much if you think of it kind of like a job, that's helpful. 00:52:28.835 --> 00:52:33.155 And then when it's, like, not as intense as a job, you have those rare moments. 00:52:33.155 --> 00:52:34.855 It it's kind of a pleasant surprise. 00:52:36.200 --> 00:52:41.880 I would say too, that as you ramp up further into the program, the pace does change. 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:46.840 I mean, I would say I just I feel like, again, I just wanna add to what Isaiah is saying. 00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:56.015 I kinda wanna emphasize it more that, like, that our experience from, again, feedback from students is really like Isaiah said, it really is forty hours a week plus. 00:52:56.155 --> 00:52:59.595 When you start putting internships and dissertation work or excuse me. 00:52:59.595 --> 00:53:00.075 Excuse me. 00:53:00.075 --> 00:53:01.295 I misspoke externships. 00:53:02.075 --> 00:53:04.335 Dissertation work and coursework went altogether. 00:53:05.330 --> 00:53:07.650 It really is very intensive. 00:53:07.650 --> 00:53:08.850 I mean I think that's fair. 00:53:08.850 --> 00:53:13.330 I mean but it's again a good kind of intensive in the sense that you want to be doing it is what I've heard some students. 00:53:13.330 --> 00:53:16.450 Like it's not a bad thing it's just it's it's you're really busy. 00:53:16.450 --> 00:53:19.485 You know you're kind of juggling three distinct things. 00:53:19.485 --> 00:53:24.625 So each one of those things on their own is an endeavor, but you're putting them all together at the same time. 00:53:24.765 --> 00:53:27.345 So I think it can really it can really ramp up. 00:53:27.965 --> 00:53:29.645 That kind of leads to one of the questions. 00:53:29.645 --> 00:53:33.005 Isaiah, would you would you feel like that's pretty accurate, like, kind of between the two of us? 00:53:33.005 --> 00:53:34.225 The pretty Yeah. 00:53:34.890 --> 00:53:34.970 Yeah. 00:53:34.970 --> 00:53:35.470 Great. 00:53:37.130 --> 00:53:41.550 That kinda ties into, someone asked about part time jobs and TAs. 00:53:42.410 --> 00:53:47.150 I'm happy to have you talk about that one if you want to just, again, kinda knowing the the weight of it. 00:53:47.210 --> 00:53:50.665 You know, can you you know, can people do part time jobs? 00:53:50.665 --> 00:53:51.065 Do they? 00:53:51.065 --> 00:53:52.765 What's what do you hear as a student? 00:53:53.225 --> 00:53:54.685 TAs, that kind of thing. 00:53:54.905 --> 00:53:55.225 Sure. 00:53:55.225 --> 00:53:55.545 Yeah. 00:53:55.545 --> 00:53:58.425 So that's always a big question is can I work while doing this? 00:53:58.425 --> 00:54:10.530 And, the university is very generous in offering a, an an assistantship program, for the four years you're on campus, and you can work, ten hours a week. 00:54:10.530 --> 00:54:21.465 And usually your first couple years, you're doing administrative work, just because, you don't, like, quite have the the the knowledge and the skills to be, like, in a TA position. 00:54:22.005 --> 00:54:24.485 So but those are offered later in your third and fourth years. 00:54:24.485 --> 00:54:29.785 You can work, for professors helping out for classes as assistants teaching assistants. 00:54:30.965 --> 00:54:38.640 So that is by far the most common, work that I see people do is is is for the university for tuition reduction. 00:54:40.780 --> 00:54:47.760 Anything outside of that is just very it's very difficult to pull off because you have to find a schedule that is, like, flexible. 00:54:48.595 --> 00:54:51.475 And I I don't really know of anyone who does that. 00:54:53.075 --> 00:54:54.355 It's just very yeah. 00:54:54.355 --> 00:54:57.235 Your schedule can it it's kinda all over the place. 00:54:57.235 --> 00:55:00.435 So, it's hard to find work outside the university. 00:55:00.435 --> 00:55:08.430 But the but the assistantship is something that a lot of people do, take part in, and it's very helpful for reducing tuition. 00:55:08.650 --> 00:55:11.870 And it's on campus, so you don't have to go as far for it. 00:55:12.890 --> 00:55:13.850 That's a good answer. 00:55:13.850 --> 00:55:15.150 A very good answer to that. 00:55:15.930 --> 00:55:22.415 One of the, questions that came along kinda with the finances a little bit is is how do students support themselves financially? 00:55:23.035 --> 00:55:25.355 I am gonna kinda backtrack a little bit after this one. 00:55:25.355 --> 00:55:28.955 This, but I think that's a good one to talk about. 00:55:29.275 --> 00:55:32.075 It gets back into my, investment piece. 00:55:32.075 --> 00:55:40.290 And I again, I apologize that we're having to kinda push through some of this a little bit, but I think it's worth hearing your perspective of, like, how do students pay for this? 00:55:40.290 --> 00:55:41.890 Is it what's the value on it? 00:55:41.890 --> 00:55:44.690 Is someone who is making the investment you chose? 00:55:44.690 --> 00:55:45.190 Yes. 00:55:45.410 --> 00:55:48.470 And so I don't know if you're comfortable sharing a little bit about that. 00:55:48.770 --> 00:55:49.250 Sure. 00:55:49.250 --> 00:55:49.990 Love to hear. 00:55:50.245 --> 00:55:50.565 Sure. 00:55:50.565 --> 00:55:51.045 Yeah. 00:55:51.045 --> 00:56:02.965 So, I mean, the large part of the of your financial burden falls on onto student loans unless you have, enough accumulated wealth from a previous career or something like that. 00:56:03.285 --> 00:56:13.080 Almost everyone here is is utilizing student loans for their day to day living, and that is that's that is certainly something that you have to take into account. 00:56:13.080 --> 00:56:13.320 Right? 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.920 Like, you're going into debt, and that's a reality. 00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:21.500 But I think what Tammy is saying as, of it being an investment is so important. 00:56:21.795 --> 00:56:22.035 Right? 00:56:22.035 --> 00:56:24.835 Like, it it absolutely pays off. 00:56:24.835 --> 00:56:31.095 Like, down the road, it's it's takes a lot of work to get here, to go through the program. 00:56:31.555 --> 00:56:46.450 But in the end, I think you can feel comfortable knowing that, the mental health field is not going away anytime soon, and I think the pandemic has made that very clear, that mental the mental health field, if anything, is going to be increasing. 00:56:47.010 --> 00:56:49.845 That's, I guess, that's not necessarily a great thing. 00:56:50.625 --> 00:56:54.565 We don't want that to be the case, but it seems like it is the case. 00:56:55.025 --> 00:57:02.805 And so as as a psychologist, you're always gonna have, job security, and you're gonna make enough to, like, take care of your loans. 00:57:03.710 --> 00:57:06.450 So I I feel like that's something that's very comforting to know. 00:57:06.750 --> 00:57:20.115 And then also just talking about investment and the payoff of, like, bringing hope to people's lives and and bringing healing, I think that's something far beyond, what the reward of money could ever give you. 00:57:20.735 --> 00:57:22.255 So I think that's something to keep in mind. 00:57:22.255 --> 00:57:23.375 It's like, it is an investment. 00:57:23.375 --> 00:57:27.235 You can't think of it in, one year chunks. 00:57:27.295 --> 00:57:29.695 Like, like yeah. 00:57:29.695 --> 00:57:37.330 You have to be thinking long term about things and taking a bit of a hit in some ways to prepare yourself to go to this next level. 00:57:38.750 --> 00:57:43.710 I think I really think that's well said, and I always like it when you talk about that because you own you own the reality. 00:57:43.710 --> 00:57:48.395 And I do wanna share that PsyD programs, it is an area that that you're not going to find. 00:57:48.395 --> 00:57:55.355 I I I do I'm actually very comfortable talking about finances because I know where DMU is in the scheme of other PsyD programs. 00:57:55.355 --> 00:57:55.595 You know? 00:57:56.075 --> 00:57:57.355 We're not the least expensive. 00:57:57.355 --> 00:58:01.100 We're not the most expensive, but I also know very well our value. 00:58:01.100 --> 00:58:02.700 I know how well our students do. 00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:12.860 I know how, desired they are in externships and and internships, how when they walk out of DMU, even postdocs, I mean, we're that's something that Isaiah has been learning about is postdocs. 00:58:12.860 --> 00:58:15.525 I've been talking a bit more about it, even in office chatting about it. 00:58:15.685 --> 00:58:20.085 We've got, you know, students and postdocs at Georgetown and at Princeton, and we we do well. 00:58:20.085 --> 00:58:20.725 You know? 00:58:20.965 --> 00:58:25.705 So the investment really the investment in this program specifically does pay off. 00:58:26.005 --> 00:58:31.305 As you mentioned, you know, it it's hard to think about that a little bit that, you know, mental health needs are increasing. 00:58:32.140 --> 00:58:39.100 But I would say that that's something that, having that spiritual perspective is the world is broken. 00:58:39.100 --> 00:58:41.740 You know, we all have our own brokenness with us as well. 00:58:42.380 --> 00:58:52.325 And and the reality is it it's it's a good it is a good in our world to to have this kind of training available and to be able to be a part of answering that. 00:58:52.325 --> 00:58:57.625 So, you know, yes, it's certainly disheartening to see that the mental health need, is rising. 00:58:58.485 --> 00:59:04.700 And at the same time, I would say all the more beauty that we're able to be there to answer to that. 00:59:05.100 --> 00:59:21.555 And along with that where it comes back into finances is understanding that now more than ever with the awareness and the acknowledgment and the additional acceptance of of mental health being a real area that that we need to care about, frankly, as as humans, like, in our own lives and taking care of ourselves. 00:59:21.855 --> 00:59:26.435 And and just acknowledging, like, mental health challenges are part of the even the normal human experience. 00:59:26.975 --> 00:59:30.735 You're seeing things like insurance companies covering mental health more widely. 00:59:31.430 --> 00:59:38.810 You're seeing, organizations investing more deeply in in providing mental health services, you know, to, like, you know, students, employees, etcetera. 00:59:39.030 --> 00:59:39.990 So that's increasing. 00:59:39.990 --> 00:59:46.665 What that means as well for us on a financial capacity is just all of that does trickle down to, the mental health professional. 00:59:46.885 --> 00:59:58.005 Even things like, one of the things we haven't talked about really specifically in this webinar is just there are postgraduate opportunities that can help you to to pay that student loan debt. 00:59:58.005 --> 00:59:59.180 And And we haven't really talked about that. 00:59:59.180 --> 01:00:00.780 There's actually a lot of programs out there. 01:00:00.780 --> 01:00:03.360 They do vary a lot, you know, even from year to year. 01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:10.560 But there are, opportunities that you can seek out, that help pay student loans post graduation. 01:00:11.075 --> 01:00:15.495 And I I don't want that to be to be lost because that certainly is is a possibility. 01:00:16.755 --> 01:00:19.555 And, again, I kind of go back to that. 01:00:19.555 --> 01:00:23.795 I think, I think about the beauty, and I mean, I'm talking to somebody who was a missionary here. 01:00:23.795 --> 01:00:24.990 Isaiah was a missionary. 01:00:24.990 --> 01:00:34.290 He knows that he sacrificed that time and gave so freely, you know, to do, to those that he worked with, how beautiful it is that you can actually continue that ministry. 01:00:34.670 --> 01:00:36.030 You can continue that gift. 01:00:36.030 --> 01:00:43.615 You continue using that talent, and still tithe with that talent, you know, serving, you know, in a in a in a pro bono capacity, you know, and things like that. 01:00:43.615 --> 01:00:51.375 But at the same time, that's gonna be something where you can actually continue using that gift and that burning desire and yet still be able to provide for yourself in your future. 01:00:51.375 --> 01:01:01.700 I think that's something that I I mean, that it I I really think is is just, it's the longer I've been at DMU, the more that's been imparted me is because I just see so many people loving their work. 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:03.760 And I think that's really beautiful. 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:04.760 They're loving their work. 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.025 I mean, this is their work is is being able to serve and to help. 01:01:08.025 --> 01:01:08.425 You know? 01:01:08.425 --> 01:01:14.285 So I know that's a long spiel for me sharing on that, but, again, you can kinda tell I'm I'm pretty passionate about that. 01:01:16.345 --> 01:01:19.085 But, I wanna get to some more questions here. 01:01:19.545 --> 01:01:20.765 There's some good ones. 01:01:22.850 --> 01:01:23.750 Let's see. 01:01:23.810 --> 01:01:24.690 What this is a good one. 01:01:24.690 --> 01:01:25.650 I like this one a lot. 01:01:26.130 --> 01:01:29.730 What have students said they wish they knew since starting graduate school? 01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:32.710 That's a good that's a totally an Isaiah question. 01:01:35.010 --> 01:01:35.990 Oh my gosh. 01:01:37.045 --> 01:01:38.245 I gotta think about that one. 01:01:38.245 --> 01:01:41.065 The students wish they knew since starting in God's field. 01:01:44.245 --> 01:01:44.565 Gosh. 01:01:44.565 --> 01:01:45.125 I don't know. 01:01:45.125 --> 01:02:02.540 You know, I I have to say that I feel like I came in very much I I don't think you can ever have no expectations, but I think I came in kinda close to that of just open to whatever the experience would be knowing that I don't know everything and excited for that journey. 01:02:03.560 --> 01:02:06.945 I think, yeah, I I think that's a huge thing. 01:02:06.945 --> 01:02:18.810 It's just, like, that openness, like, coming in with that and knowing, I guess, that, you might come in with one plan, and almost surely, you'll be doing something, like, different. 01:02:18.810 --> 01:02:22.110 Like, you might come in thinking, oh, I'm I would definitely wanna work with kids. 01:02:22.730 --> 01:02:30.190 And then you'll be exposed to a population that you didn't know you had a heart for, in your work, and then all of a sudden, it changes everything. 01:02:30.650 --> 01:02:32.250 So I think that's a huge thing. 01:02:32.250 --> 01:02:50.030 It's just, like, having an openness to, what you uncovering what you actually desire, like, things that you didn't even know you wanted and, like, uncovering what what, frankly, like, what the Lord wants for you and what he wants to do, with you as a professional, as as a person. 01:02:51.530 --> 01:02:52.170 So I don't know. 01:02:52.170 --> 01:02:53.850 I feel I get an answer to that question well. 01:02:53.850 --> 01:02:54.410 But No. 01:02:54.410 --> 01:02:55.370 But I think that's a good one. 01:02:55.370 --> 01:02:56.250 I mean, I think that's helpful. 01:02:56.250 --> 01:03:02.350 It's being, like, kind of the expectations of what you're setting up for yourself, to offer something a little more practical because, again, I'm not a student. 01:03:02.355 --> 01:03:02.595 Yeah. 01:03:02.595 --> 01:03:07.095 I've heard students share things like, I mean, one one of the big ones is that they wish they hadn't delayed. 01:03:07.395 --> 01:03:09.575 I was actually visiting with somebody about that today. 01:03:10.275 --> 01:03:12.435 You know, just wishing that they had not delayed. 01:03:12.435 --> 01:03:19.170 Like, they've thought about it for a while, thought about it for a while, and that once they're in it I mean, the time you you're like life is short, you know. 01:03:19.790 --> 01:03:30.415 Certainly, if God calls you to something at a certain time, that's life and it's how it works out, but just they're acknowledging their own delay that they wish they'd said yes sooner because it's like you can't you just can't know anything. 01:03:30.415 --> 01:03:33.395 Like, you can't know certain things you can't know without trying. 01:03:34.335 --> 01:03:38.415 You know, and so diving in their their thing was, oh, I wish I would have just started earlier. 01:03:38.415 --> 01:03:38.655 You know? 01:03:38.655 --> 01:03:39.855 And so that that I was interested. 01:03:39.855 --> 01:03:42.035 I remember thinking I'm gonna share that tonight. 01:03:42.460 --> 01:03:45.880 You know, that was somebody's kind of, you know, wish they had. 01:03:47.460 --> 01:03:49.780 I do wanna see there's a few more questions that are popping up. 01:03:49.780 --> 01:03:50.180 I like it. 01:03:50.180 --> 01:03:52.760 Everybody's getting a little more brave, asking some more questions. 01:03:52.820 --> 01:04:02.695 A few things that we can cover quickly, is, how's the first smell the first semester, work challenges, most challenging classes, things like that. 01:04:02.695 --> 01:04:07.255 We kinda covered it by thought, a little more it was a little more detailed question, but, like, what's that first semester like? 01:04:07.255 --> 01:04:09.755 What are some challenges, you know, that you're experiencing? 01:04:10.695 --> 01:04:13.610 You know, like, things you're having to navigate in that area? 01:04:13.990 --> 01:04:14.490 Sure. 01:04:15.350 --> 01:04:21.030 I feel like in some ways, my first semester was, just so unique. 01:04:21.030 --> 01:04:33.975 I moved out here, during a pandemic, and so my very first semester was hybrid and wearing a mask and, just I couldn't meet anyone because everything was shut down. 01:04:34.515 --> 01:04:44.110 So it was definitely a very difficult experience for me, and I think the biggest part of that was just making the adjustment to a totally different lifestyle in some ways. 01:04:44.110 --> 01:04:48.990 Obviously, I'd been a student in the past, but this is a very different feel to it. 01:04:49.230 --> 01:04:54.510 It's just you're diving into something that you that you're very passionate about, and it's all that. 01:04:54.510 --> 01:04:57.730 It's all psychology, which is good, but it's an adjustment. 01:04:58.030 --> 01:05:14.970 So that was that was definitely a big thing is is just adjusting to it, getting to know your professors, getting to feel comfortable with where you're at, with what you know, and accepting that you don't know everything, and that's great. 01:05:15.190 --> 01:05:16.650 And you're gonna learn more. 01:05:17.110 --> 01:05:24.330 So I think those are just the big challenges, figuring out your time, commitment, your schedule, how to fit all these pieces of your life together. 01:05:25.475 --> 01:05:33.735 As far as most challenging classes, granted, I'm only starting my second year, so there are some I haven't experienced. 01:05:33.795 --> 01:05:45.010 But from what I have heard, the assessment classes can be fairly difficult because, again, they're they are a hallmark of the psychology field. 01:05:45.010 --> 01:05:57.545 And so it's something that we wanna be doing well, and we want to, they they're they're rigorous and and thorough and just making sure that we understand what we're testing and making sure that we're doing it well. 01:05:57.545 --> 01:06:05.085 So a lot of those personality assessment classes can be the more difficult ones, making sure that you're getting everything that you need to get from these tests. 01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.060 So I think that covered every part of that question. 01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:09.520 Good one. 01:06:09.520 --> 01:06:10.400 That's very good. 01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:11.620 There's another one here. 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.320 Two people asked I think we should talk about this one. 01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:25.185 Two people asked, almost exactly what has been the most rewarding part of of studying, or, you know, most rewarding experience so far of being a deep mute spiritually, emotionally, etcetera? 01:06:25.725 --> 01:06:26.225 Yeah. 01:06:27.325 --> 01:06:35.290 I would say I I'm not sure I could point to one specific experience, but I can point to multiple. 01:06:35.590 --> 01:06:46.485 And, right away, when you start out, you take a basic it's called, like, a basic interview in class, and you're role playing with your classmates, just pretending to do therapy with your classmates. 01:06:46.485 --> 01:06:47.925 And it's very basic at this point. 01:06:47.925 --> 01:06:53.065 You're not, you know, diving too terribly deep into, you know, different modalities. 01:06:54.325 --> 01:07:03.410 And I just remember almost every time I've done this throughout my time here, every time I've role played, there's kind of these nerves leading up to it. 01:07:03.410 --> 01:07:05.910 Like, like, it's just so unknown. 01:07:06.130 --> 01:07:12.755 And I remember every single time after I've done one of those, I just feel, like, amazing. 01:07:12.895 --> 01:07:15.135 I feel so, like, light. 01:07:15.135 --> 01:07:17.315 I feel, very fulfilled. 01:07:17.695 --> 01:07:24.015 Even if you're, like, role playing someone in a very depressed state, I just remember feeling like, yes. 01:07:24.015 --> 01:07:24.895 This is it. 01:07:24.895 --> 01:07:30.440 Like, this is for me, I guess, maybe more, like, on a deep level. 01:07:30.440 --> 01:07:32.280 It's like, this is what I was created to do. 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:33.980 This is something I love so deeply. 01:07:34.520 --> 01:07:38.120 And I think I think that has been the most rewarding thing. 01:07:38.120 --> 01:07:54.305 It's just even the year I've been here, it's just this fire that, like, continues to grow, and I just grow more and more in conviction as I see, as I learn, as I apply all these things, and as I start in the clinic this year seeing, patients and and clients. 01:07:54.600 --> 01:07:55.080 It's like, no. 01:07:55.080 --> 01:07:55.800 This is it. 01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:04.540 This is what I want to do with the rest of my life, and, that's just, like, been so cool to grow in that in that love and and passion. 01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:06.940 That's awesome. 01:08:08.815 --> 01:08:09.615 Thanks, Isaiah. 01:08:09.615 --> 01:08:15.715 I'm I'm really glad that question was asked because that was a really, just some really beautiful insight. 01:08:17.775 --> 01:08:18.815 I think this is a good way. 01:08:18.815 --> 01:08:23.695 I don't wanna just go to, like, a really hard brass tacked question because that was such a nice a nice answer. 01:08:23.695 --> 01:08:26.250 I wanna just, you know, enjoy that moment for a second. 01:08:27.190 --> 01:08:31.530 Someone just wants to share their thanks for, being here and your experience sharing your experiences. 01:08:32.470 --> 01:08:37.430 You know, we we talked a little bit about what it was like starting out for you a new student, but just like they were asking, like, what was your first day like? 01:08:37.430 --> 01:08:38.630 You know, what was it like being a student? 01:08:38.630 --> 01:08:43.935 You shared a little bit, so just anything else to kind of, you know, add on that, kind of student experience. 01:08:45.035 --> 01:08:45.355 Yeah. 01:08:45.355 --> 01:08:48.235 Or any I would even say turn this one into, like, tips, advice. 01:08:48.235 --> 01:08:51.375 Like, you know, what what should people know about it, you know, as they prepare? 01:08:51.995 --> 01:08:55.890 Again, you mentioned the expectations, but anything else on that or that? 01:08:57.010 --> 01:08:57.410 Yeah. 01:08:57.410 --> 01:08:57.810 Gosh. 01:08:57.810 --> 01:09:07.650 I I my my first day was just so interesting and so atypical that I don't like, I it was, gosh. 01:09:07.650 --> 01:09:08.870 I'm trying to remember exactly. 01:09:10.175 --> 01:09:20.515 So I guess outside of school, it was just such a chaotic transition for me moving entirely across the country in the midst of a pandemic and, like, hoping I could meet people. 01:09:21.455 --> 01:09:25.800 But I do remember my first day of class was, like, child psychotherapy and just going in. 01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:28.280 And, I actually yeah. 01:09:28.280 --> 01:09:35.340 I I felt very comforted because right away, like, we're diving into child therapy. 01:09:35.400 --> 01:09:44.355 Like, by the end of my first semester, I, like, theoretically knew how to, do like, give therapy to children through play therapy. 01:09:44.735 --> 01:09:46.895 And I think that's just a very profound thing. 01:09:46.895 --> 01:09:54.595 Like, day one, like, you are becoming that therapist that, like, you're dreaming of becoming, and and you're doing it, like, day one. 01:09:55.270 --> 01:10:01.450 And so I remember thinking, like, yeah, that was a very satisfying experience of, like, I had all this chaos around me. 01:10:01.510 --> 01:10:03.750 But even in the midst of that, it was like, yes. 01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:04.150 Okay. 01:10:04.150 --> 01:10:06.470 You're doing what you're what you're what you're doing. 01:10:06.470 --> 01:10:08.170 You're you're getting into the field. 01:10:08.550 --> 01:10:11.505 And, yeah, so that was a great thing. 01:10:11.505 --> 01:10:15.025 As far as tips oh, gosh. 01:10:15.025 --> 01:10:17.025 Trying to think if I could sharpen your pencils. 01:10:17.025 --> 01:10:20.325 Like, I'm trying to think of practical tips. 01:10:21.265 --> 01:10:22.465 I'm gonna throw one out there. 01:10:22.465 --> 01:10:27.370 Just again, I'm and when I'm sharing something with you guys too, things like this, it's coming from things that students have told me. 01:10:27.510 --> 01:10:33.850 I think I don't know that we've said this quite so clearly, but, like, malleability, I think, is really important is coming in. 01:10:34.230 --> 01:10:43.065 I actually think the students who do the best, I almost wanna say it more profoundly, like, the students who do the best, but I will I'll leave it with that. 01:10:43.065 --> 01:10:57.870 I think, just from what I'm hearing, that students who do the best are those who come in really being malleable, being open to being taught, open to being formed, open to accepting, and, and maybe even, like, you know, accepting slash, you know, hearing. 01:10:58.570 --> 01:11:02.090 You know, again, I I do think and I think Isaiah can, you know, maybe speak on this a little more. 01:11:02.090 --> 01:11:07.835 But I do think there's of course, you're going to encounter things you may not totally agree with or understand, maybe new perspectives. 01:11:07.835 --> 01:11:08.235 You're like, okay. 01:11:08.235 --> 01:11:08.795 That's interesting. 01:11:08.795 --> 01:11:10.255 Well, I don't know how to think about that. 01:11:10.315 --> 01:11:14.255 But the idea of again, you don't have to accept everything in a sense of, like, oh, that's gospel. 01:11:14.955 --> 01:11:20.140 But the idea of understanding that they're you that malleability is really essential. 01:11:20.140 --> 01:11:28.720 I and I will say that I really am I'm really convict you know, convicted in in this thought that the malleability, aids students in their success. 01:11:29.820 --> 01:11:37.115 That's something I've learned over the years just by speaking with students, just surely through speaking with students that those that are like, yeah. 01:11:37.115 --> 01:11:47.850 I shouldn't have been so bullheaded when I came in or I didn't realize how many walls I had up or, you know, things like that that really being malleable, being open to being taught, and even just understanding that someone's experience has shaped them. 01:11:47.850 --> 01:11:48.170 You know? 01:11:48.170 --> 01:11:55.550 And that because that's that's just the key part of being an excellent therapist is understanding the the impact of someone's ex you know, self experiences. 01:11:56.570 --> 01:11:57.370 So I think that I don't know. 01:11:57.370 --> 01:11:58.330 I just wanna add that in there. 01:11:58.330 --> 01:11:59.150 Is that malleability? 01:11:59.290 --> 01:12:03.545 I've just seen that as, like, a key trait to successful students is malleability. 01:12:04.725 --> 01:12:05.045 Yeah. 01:12:05.045 --> 01:12:16.060 And maybe maybe just to add on to that a little bit, I I think anytime that you are seeking, like, truth or seeking to, yeah, know something. 01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:18.120 It's always, like, a wrestling match. 01:12:18.120 --> 01:12:18.360 Right? 01:12:18.360 --> 01:12:29.455 Like, you have to be in it and, like, willing to, like I guess, yeah, going with the wrestling analogy of, like, willing to, like, put yourself out there and and, like, get hurt. 01:12:29.595 --> 01:12:31.195 Not, like, physically get hurt. 01:12:31.195 --> 01:12:32.815 Like, you're not gonna get hurt in this program. 01:12:33.035 --> 01:12:49.070 But, like, putting yourself in there and willing to risk being wrong and to, like, wrestle with that as you come to understand what the human person is, who you are to grow as a person so that, like, knowing that therapy is two people in a room. 01:12:49.070 --> 01:12:53.550 It's not just one person, like, talking at the other person. 01:12:53.550 --> 01:12:55.490 It's two people forming a relationship. 01:12:56.030 --> 01:13:18.800 And so coming in, being willing to form yourself as a person to to take the truth that you learn, to integrate it within yourself and to grow, so that you can, like, walk with someone else as they wrestle with the truth, like, the truth of who they are, the truth of who they're meant to be, how they relate to others, like, all that sort of thing. 01:13:19.740 --> 01:13:23.920 So being willing to just, like, put yourself out there in that way. 01:13:24.855 --> 01:13:25.495 That's really good. 01:13:25.495 --> 01:13:26.555 That's very true. 01:13:27.255 --> 01:13:35.495 I do wanna just take a little moment here and just acknowledge that it is we are, sitting at, like, 09:15 eastern time for this webinar, so we are past time. 01:13:35.495 --> 01:13:39.300 So I do wanna acknowledge that we are I definitely wanna honor people's time. 01:13:39.300 --> 01:13:41.560 What I'm thinking we'll do, we got a couple more questions. 01:13:41.700 --> 01:13:48.420 I'm thinking we'll spend maybe, like, another ten minutes at the most answering these last two, and then close out from there. 01:13:48.420 --> 01:13:58.835 So if you need to hop off, I understand that, but I did wanna at least give you, just give you the, the little time stamp that we're thinking about here, give you a closing time to kind of to think about. 01:13:58.835 --> 01:14:06.615 So we'll go about another, you know, ten minutes or so, and then and then we'll wrap up and be and be done with this webinar. 01:14:07.050 --> 01:14:09.530 For those that do have to hop off, I wanted to say thank you. 01:14:09.530 --> 01:14:13.050 I'll thank you again, and I'll do more formally a couple of closing announcements. 01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:14.970 But I do wanna just thank everybody for being here. 01:14:15.210 --> 01:14:18.250 Your time is valuable to us, and and we know this is a big endeavor. 01:14:18.250 --> 01:14:20.170 I really do hope that this this has been helpful. 01:14:20.170 --> 01:14:22.335 So if you have to hop off, we understand. 01:14:22.475 --> 01:14:26.155 For those of you that wanna stay, we'll try to keep it under another ten minutes or so. 01:14:26.155 --> 01:14:27.535 That sounds okay with everyone. 01:14:28.315 --> 01:14:29.115 I'll kinda wrap up. 01:14:29.115 --> 01:14:32.095 The last two questions here are, more brass tacks. 01:14:33.930 --> 01:14:38.250 And I I actually have one I wanna talk about that I'll close with you, Isaiah, and related to integration. 01:14:38.250 --> 01:14:39.770 So I'll give you a little heads up there. 01:14:39.770 --> 01:14:45.230 I do want to ask him to speak on integration a little bit before he before we close out, before we leave the webinar. 01:14:46.055 --> 01:14:51.515 This question, is really about, about cost of living. 01:14:51.975 --> 01:14:59.575 I do wanna answer this as well and just share this is what is the cost of living for out of state residents and really just for anybody, I mean, in state, it depends on where you are. 01:14:59.575 --> 01:15:01.355 We are in the Northern Virginia area. 01:15:01.950 --> 01:15:09.790 The allotment just for housing, and what the government says like from student loans is around the cost of living is somewhere around like 27,000, I believe it is. 01:15:09.790 --> 01:15:11.410 It's a little over 25. 01:15:11.870 --> 01:15:15.170 25 to 27,000 is like an estimated cost of living. 01:15:15.745 --> 01:15:16.385 I don't know, Isaiah. 01:15:16.385 --> 01:15:18.805 I don't we don't have to make this into a big old question. 01:15:19.345 --> 01:15:20.945 If you have anything to add to it, feel free. 01:15:20.945 --> 01:15:25.185 But I find that some students some students, you know, it really depends on you. 01:15:25.185 --> 01:15:30.485 Some students, you know, really wanna live alone and you're gonna pay for that, right, because you're living in an apartment. 01:15:31.170 --> 01:15:42.310 Some folks, are open to living with housemates, and, you know, you know and again, housemates might mean, like, a house or a townhouse with, like, three, four, five, you know, living people roommates. 01:15:43.265 --> 01:15:48.065 Maybe an apartment or condo means, like, two or three, which again shifts your cost. 01:15:48.065 --> 01:15:53.765 So I do think a big part of it the number one thing attributing to the cost of living is housing. 01:15:53.825 --> 01:15:56.385 So and and there can be a huge variation in that. 01:15:56.385 --> 01:16:00.800 You know, if you're talking living on your own, let's say your minimum is, like, 1,500 a month for an apartment. 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:04.340 And I think that's probably not including all the utilities. 01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:11.355 If you're living with housemates, I think that job can be done all in somewhere between seven to 900, maybe even less. 01:16:11.435 --> 01:16:11.595 Right? 01:16:11.595 --> 01:16:12.235 Am I right? 01:16:12.235 --> 01:16:12.835 What do you think, guys? 01:16:12.835 --> 01:16:13.915 Is there anything on that? 01:16:13.915 --> 01:16:14.155 Yeah. 01:16:14.155 --> 01:16:14.315 No. 01:16:14.315 --> 01:16:15.435 I think that's pretty accurate. 01:16:16.075 --> 01:16:22.875 The the number you said of, like, 27,000, I think, at least for a single person coming into the program Right. 01:16:22.955 --> 01:16:25.820 You you're probably living in in luxury at that point. 01:16:25.980 --> 01:16:29.920 I don't know of anyone who is is spending, that amount. 01:16:30.140 --> 01:16:35.580 Of course, if you're coming, you know, with a family and and that sort of thing, that those cost gets higher. 01:16:35.580 --> 01:16:43.165 But I think, yeah, your numbers as far as, like, apartments, I think 700 to 1,000 is pretty reasonable per month if you're living with roommates. 01:16:43.945 --> 01:16:51.485 And then food, that's kinda just hopefully, most people kinda have a sense of what they what they, pay for food every month. 01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:57.300 And I don't think food is horribly, like, much more expensive out here than it was, say, living in the Midwest. 01:16:57.360 --> 01:16:58.360 So I agree. 01:16:58.480 --> 01:16:59.200 With that, by the way. 01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:02.000 I actually I've actually found sometimes there's certain things that are cheaper. 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:09.045 You have access to things that you may not someplace else, but I don't find that food is, like, at all more expensive here than anywhere else. 01:17:09.265 --> 01:17:09.585 Right. 01:17:09.585 --> 01:17:10.085 Exactly. 01:17:10.145 --> 01:17:14.865 So I think how into the heart of the city like Washington, DC, you might see a difference, but not where we are. 01:17:14.865 --> 01:17:15.345 Yeah. 01:17:15.345 --> 01:17:15.825 Exactly. 01:17:15.825 --> 01:17:16.065 Yeah. 01:17:16.065 --> 01:17:20.325 Of course, the closer you move to DC, things get much more expensive much quicker. 01:17:20.385 --> 01:17:33.460 So, you know, I think for me, I could reasonably say, yeah, I I got some decent rent, so I think I'm closer to, you know, $1,213,000 per year for living expenses. 01:17:34.255 --> 01:17:39.075 I think I got some really great deals with that, and people can do even better than that, I think. 01:17:40.175 --> 01:17:44.255 So I feel like that's a fair I obviously, not guaranteeing anything. 01:17:44.255 --> 01:17:44.975 But No. 01:17:44.975 --> 01:17:45.255 That's true. 01:17:45.395 --> 01:17:50.510 From my perspective, that's a lot closer to where I am for yearly costs. 01:17:50.890 --> 01:17:51.130 Yeah. 01:17:51.130 --> 01:18:05.585 And, again, there's lots of things too that, if you're eating it, like, the food truck outside every day, $10.12 bucks a pop every day, that adds up versus we do a lot A lot of students do, and we encourage carry and carry out for lunches and snacks and things, you know, just helping you to be budget friendly. 01:18:05.585 --> 01:18:07.365 So I hope that helps with that question. 01:18:07.985 --> 01:18:09.505 Strong qualities, this is a good one. 01:18:09.505 --> 01:18:13.685 What are the qualities of a strong candidate to be accepted into the program? 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:18.900 First of all, I I definitely think, and I really welcome your feedback too, Isaiah. 01:18:19.360 --> 01:18:27.520 I just I mean, number one is there's two it's hard to kind of put numbers to these, but, like, academic aptitude, but, again, those minimums need to be met. 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:28.740 The higher, the better. 01:18:29.125 --> 01:18:40.025 And then the other thing is harder to put a number two is is interpersonal aptitude, is really, balance of person, balance of character, understanding clinical psychology. 01:18:40.165 --> 01:18:41.765 I really I don't know, Isaiah. 01:18:41.765 --> 01:18:57.980 Like, I think that one's actually huge is is we understand that you're not, you know, that you don't have a master's degree in psychology yet maybe as you're applying, but we do expect that you've done a lot of what I would call lay research, you know, nonprofessional research on what clinical psychology is. 01:18:57.980 --> 01:19:00.625 You've done the work comparing and contrasting other professions. 01:19:00.625 --> 01:19:04.145 You know, you spent some time exploring some theories, things like that. 01:19:04.145 --> 01:19:10.465 I mean, we really do want you to be able to articulate why you wanna do this in a in a fairly high level capacity. 01:19:10.465 --> 01:19:12.405 I don't wanna make that sound too daunting. 01:19:12.660 --> 01:19:16.440 I don't know, Isaiah, if you have any thoughts about, you know, balancing that back out. 01:19:17.060 --> 01:19:22.100 But I do think that's a big one that is, you know, important to take note of. 01:19:22.100 --> 01:19:23.960 Anything else you've seen from your experiences? 01:19:25.795 --> 01:19:26.035 No. 01:19:26.035 --> 01:19:27.635 I would say you covered that well. 01:19:27.635 --> 01:19:35.155 I I think that, this is not just something you mosey into, that you just kinda walk into. 01:19:35.155 --> 01:19:40.220 There is a level of, you don't have to know everything about the field. 01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:42.000 Obviously, that's why you learn. 01:19:42.300 --> 01:19:44.220 But you have to be ready to commit. 01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:44.380 Right? 01:19:44.380 --> 01:19:49.420 Like, when you're stepping into this five year program, it's really like you're stepping into a lifetime of something. 01:19:49.420 --> 01:19:52.060 Like, the learning does not stop after five years. 01:19:52.060 --> 01:19:52.875 Not even close. 01:19:54.395 --> 01:19:55.775 So just beginning, if anything. 01:19:55.915 --> 01:19:56.955 It's just beginning. 01:19:56.955 --> 01:19:57.455 Yeah. 01:19:57.515 --> 01:20:04.175 Seriously, that's one thing I've learned is that I thought, you know, five years, and then it's like, oh, school's done, but it's just like, nope. 01:20:05.035 --> 01:20:06.536 Like, you have continuing credits, but, also, you get that desire to learn more. 01:20:06.536 --> 01:20:11.120 So if that if that desire and that drive desire to learn more. 01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:21.780 So if that if that desire and that drive is not there to begin with and you're you're not feeling, like, really strongly, doesn't mean you can't have, you know, questions or even small doubts about things. 01:20:22.355 --> 01:20:35.735 But I think that's a huge part is, like, knowing what you're getting into, doing some of that research, wanting to do it, the, obviously, the academic aptitude, knowing that you'd be able to handle these courses. 01:20:37.120 --> 01:20:42.880 And then also because you're gonna be working with people, you have to kinda like people and be okay at talking to people. 01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:45.540 I think that's something that's important. 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.120 And I think And that all I think all this kind of comes out in the interview. 01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:52.215 I think that's something too is this is the interview. 01:20:52.215 --> 01:20:58.855 I mean, so they all of the, kind of paper components of the application, they I wanna be clear. 01:20:58.855 --> 01:21:03.480 We absolutely use them as, you know, a first entry, if you will. 01:21:03.480 --> 01:21:03.960 It's like, okay. 01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:12.600 We've gotta have something here, you know, to know a little bit about you to make sure that the, academic aptitude is there, that interpersonal aptitude is initially there. 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.980 And the question that just came up is, like, how heavily do you consider the GRE? 01:21:16.115 --> 01:21:16.915 We do use that. 01:21:16.915 --> 01:21:18.595 It's not a box to check at DMU. 01:21:18.595 --> 01:21:20.535 We really do look at it very seriously. 01:21:21.395 --> 01:21:32.210 You know, it's not we don't use it to necessarily rule you out, but it does help us to understand where you are academically, with that that that aptitude piece academically speaking. 01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:34.510 So we use a lot of those paper documents. 01:21:34.510 --> 01:21:34.830 Okay. 01:21:34.830 --> 01:21:38.110 What do we have here, you know, just on paper from this person? 01:21:38.110 --> 01:21:38.430 Alright. 01:21:38.430 --> 01:21:39.710 How are we looking so far? 01:21:39.710 --> 01:21:44.875 And then if all of that, again, checks out, like, meets those minimums, then we invite you to that personal interview. 01:21:44.875 --> 01:21:54.475 And that is really where I would say the next big step is is really, you know, basically putting forth in person what we see on paper. 01:21:54.475 --> 01:21:55.135 You know? 01:21:55.410 --> 01:22:16.095 Showing us that you understand the field, that you have that sense of balance, you know how to present yourself professionally, that you've really thought deeply about the field and about what the profession means to you, that you can articulate, you know, complex thoughts, you know, responding to questions, you know, about your desire and what kind of work you'd like to do, those kind of things. 01:22:16.095 --> 01:22:18.895 I mean, those are all things I think that make a great a great candidate. 01:22:18.895 --> 01:22:25.680 You know, somebody who's, you know, self directed as, you know, a self initiator who can work through that process independently and and has done the homework. 01:22:25.740 --> 01:22:26.400 You know? 01:22:26.780 --> 01:22:29.420 And, again, moving through it's okay to have questions about the process. 01:22:29.420 --> 01:22:30.620 That's not what I'm saying. 01:22:30.620 --> 01:22:33.180 But being able to, you know, on your own, go, okay. 01:22:33.180 --> 01:22:41.365 I'm I know how to, you know, navigate and and research and find these answers out for myself, and then, you know, being able to work with admissions further. 01:22:41.365 --> 01:22:45.065 I think those are all signs of a strong a strong applicant. 01:22:45.605 --> 01:22:54.185 You know, again, it's it's really we're looking for folks who understand what they're getting into and, and show, you know, show that forth through the application process. 01:22:54.860 --> 01:22:56.300 So I hope that answers those questions. 01:22:56.300 --> 01:22:56.860 We it's good. 01:22:56.860 --> 01:22:59.920 We're kind of, you know, running around right about ten minutes. 01:23:01.340 --> 01:23:05.180 You know, marker that I had mentioned a moment ago is we're getting really close to the end here. 01:23:05.180 --> 01:23:08.095 What I wanted to do is just one more time before I wanna close out. 01:23:08.095 --> 01:23:09.535 I do wanna give a couple quick announcements. 01:23:09.535 --> 01:23:10.995 Isaiah, I do wanna end with you. 01:23:11.135 --> 01:23:14.915 But, I do wanna share again that we'll be sending a recording of this webinar out. 01:23:15.295 --> 01:23:16.815 You'll you have our email address. 01:23:16.815 --> 01:23:19.475 We certainly invite you to reach out with any follow-up questions. 01:23:20.060 --> 01:23:21.340 We really want you to apply. 01:23:21.340 --> 01:23:28.460 I mean, genuinely, if you feel like this is interest interested you, if you're, you know, curious, if you'd like to learn more, certainly reach out. 01:23:28.460 --> 01:23:32.480 But really wanna take this time and if is invite you to go ahead and apply. 01:23:32.785 --> 01:23:34.065 Really, that's the next step. 01:23:34.705 --> 01:23:42.705 I think that's one of the big pieces I see is it's like, don't contemplate something that hasn't been you know, don't don't contemplate a door that hasn't been built yet. 01:23:42.705 --> 01:23:42.865 Right? 01:23:42.865 --> 01:23:43.905 I mean, like, build the door. 01:23:43.905 --> 01:23:44.065 Right? 01:23:44.065 --> 01:23:47.970 And let's let's get it going is kind of the thought on that one so you can walk through it. 01:23:48.370 --> 01:23:50.690 So, really, the application part is is doing that. 01:23:50.690 --> 01:23:55.890 It's it's it's giving yourself that opportunity to walk through, you know, your future as a clinical psychologist. 01:23:55.890 --> 01:23:57.890 If you don't apply, you won't know. 01:23:57.890 --> 01:24:01.270 And I do think that actually applying is a part of discerning. 01:24:01.330 --> 01:24:01.960 I really believe that. 01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:04.715 I think it's getting yourself in that idea of, like, okay. 01:24:04.715 --> 01:24:05.435 I'm gonna apply. 01:24:05.435 --> 01:24:05.675 Like, okay. 01:24:05.675 --> 01:24:09.035 I'm gonna envision myself possibly in Sterling, Virginia next year. 01:24:09.035 --> 01:24:11.035 I'm gonna envision myself as a clinical psychologist. 01:24:11.035 --> 01:24:15.675 I actually think those are very big mental steps that help you with discerning if this is for you. 01:24:15.675 --> 01:24:17.375 So I just wanna encourage that. 01:24:17.750 --> 01:24:20.550 You know, if you're if you're him pawing, like, go ahead and try it out. 01:24:20.550 --> 01:24:21.270 Go ahead and apply. 01:24:21.270 --> 01:24:22.550 How do you feel about that? 01:24:22.550 --> 01:24:25.110 How does it feel about thinking about the things that Isaiah shared tonight? 01:24:25.110 --> 01:24:27.130 How does it feel thinking about moving to Virginia? 01:24:27.670 --> 01:24:35.665 How does it feel, you know, thinking about a future, as a clinical psychologist and the work, that this would entail and the beauty of that profession? 01:24:35.725 --> 01:24:41.425 So I think all of that does come with getting started, you know, and that's with the application process. 01:24:41.805 --> 01:24:44.285 And, again, I wanna I just wanna thank everybody for being here. 01:24:44.285 --> 01:24:48.840 And I wanted just to close with Isaiah just sharing a little bit, if you don't mind, on integration. 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:50.380 You know, why DMU, Isaiah? 01:24:51.080 --> 01:24:51.900 Why integration? 01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:53.480 Like, where's the beauty in that? 01:24:53.480 --> 01:24:56.120 Like, just talking to us a little bit about about that piece. 01:24:56.120 --> 01:25:01.145 I feel like we did a little bit earlier, but I really wanna capture more of that, because it's the DMU difference. 01:25:01.145 --> 01:25:06.285 So I just thought if we can kinda close out with you sharing for, you know, a little bit on your thoughts on that. 01:25:06.505 --> 01:25:06.985 Sure. 01:25:06.985 --> 01:25:07.485 Yeah. 01:25:08.025 --> 01:25:17.990 So, I mean, I think just, the human person is just this profound and beautifully complex creation of God. 01:25:18.450 --> 01:25:27.895 And it it it is just it's something that I think throughout history, people have tried to capture and to understand. 01:25:28.035 --> 01:25:30.675 And that's kinda where the field of psychology started with. 01:25:30.675 --> 01:25:32.695 It was just, well, how do we look at behavior? 01:25:32.755 --> 01:25:35.895 And and what does that mean just watching and observing? 01:25:36.675 --> 01:25:46.380 But as it's, like, deepened, we've realized that humans are so much more than just animals that react to, their environment and that sort of thing. 01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:57.865 And so as the Catholic tradition has done philosophically, like, uncovering what does this mean that we're human, that we're made in the image and likeness of god. 01:25:58.405 --> 01:26:08.690 We found we find, like, this, again, this, like, beautiful and deep complexity, that in some ways can't, like, fully be captured in this lifetime. 01:26:10.830 --> 01:26:21.735 But what but as as as Catholics and as psychologists, we come to, like, dive into these things and to and to ask these questions. 01:26:21.735 --> 01:26:22.235 Okay. 01:26:22.695 --> 01:26:23.015 Why? 01:26:23.015 --> 01:26:24.695 Why is a person this way? 01:26:24.695 --> 01:26:28.295 And and that's what DMU does very well is okay. 01:26:28.295 --> 01:26:30.635 A person is a body and a soul. 01:26:31.620 --> 01:26:36.020 They're not just a physical like I said, they're not just an animal that reacts to their environment. 01:26:36.020 --> 01:26:39.460 It's created by God, and that sets us apart. 01:26:39.460 --> 01:26:39.700 Right? 01:26:39.700 --> 01:26:43.880 Just acknowledging that we have a soul sets us apart from so much of psychology. 01:26:45.085 --> 01:26:52.925 We're made in the image and likeness of god, and we are subject to the effects of sin because of the fall. 01:26:52.925 --> 01:27:02.200 But yet at the same time, we're offered, like, hope in all of that, right, that god knows us, he loves us, and he, like, awaits us in our return to him. 01:27:03.140 --> 01:27:07.160 So knowing that that is, like, our foundation is, like, we are created in god's image. 01:27:07.220 --> 01:27:10.980 And then when you look at a person, with that lens, it changes everything. 01:27:10.980 --> 01:27:17.225 Like, instead of just this human that may or may not annoy me or is you know? 01:27:17.225 --> 01:27:19.305 Like, it's it's no. 01:27:19.305 --> 01:27:21.225 This is, like, God's creation. 01:27:21.225 --> 01:27:24.125 He thought and loved this person before the foundation of the world. 01:27:24.825 --> 01:27:26.525 And from there, we can ask, okay. 01:27:26.585 --> 01:27:27.545 That's our foundation. 01:27:27.545 --> 01:27:29.005 This is how we look at the person. 01:27:29.180 --> 01:27:32.140 But then what are all these other things that contribute to them? 01:27:32.140 --> 01:27:33.120 They have a vocation. 01:27:33.820 --> 01:27:37.580 They, are fulfilled by being with other people. 01:27:37.580 --> 01:27:39.280 They're like, we're made for a relationship. 01:27:41.545 --> 01:27:58.070 Taking all these things into account that many other other, people don't necessarily consider, like a vocation, a supernatural vocation to marriage or the priesthood, is an important part in becoming who you're meant to be and finding hope and flourishing as a as a human person. 01:27:58.450 --> 01:27:59.650 So that's what that is. 01:27:59.650 --> 01:28:08.630 Like, that's what makes DMU different is that we can take these truths of, yeah, we have brains, and they have chemicals, and there's balances of chemicals. 01:28:09.250 --> 01:28:13.815 But what are the external, you know, like, their family, their relationships? 01:28:14.115 --> 01:28:18.615 Like, all of this comes together to give you this full picture of the human person. 01:28:18.915 --> 01:28:21.715 And DMU does that better than anyone else. 01:28:21.715 --> 01:28:26.620 Like, this is the human person in its fullness. 01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:41.915 And how can we, address these obstacles to this flourishing and help a person to become who god created them to be, and and for them to find happiness, in this life and happiness forever in the next. 01:28:42.375 --> 01:28:44.535 So That's great. 01:28:44.535 --> 01:28:45.095 Well, wow. 01:28:45.095 --> 01:28:45.735 Thanks, Isaiah. 01:28:45.735 --> 01:28:52.190 I mean, really, that and that's why I I really wanted you to close on that as I just think you did such a great job of sharing that and the why part. 01:28:53.630 --> 01:28:56.510 You know, and and I think, again, it's really authentically why DMU. 01:28:56.510 --> 01:28:57.950 It's not just like, oh, we're the best. 01:28:57.950 --> 01:28:59.310 It's like this it's like, no. 01:28:59.310 --> 01:29:01.550 This is so much bigger than all of that. 01:29:01.550 --> 01:29:07.545 You know, it's so much bigger, you know, than a conceptualized, you know, you know, flip it over the best. 01:29:07.545 --> 01:29:07.865 It's like, no. 01:29:07.865 --> 01:29:08.105 No. 01:29:08.105 --> 01:29:17.225 It's actually something very deep, very intricate to the identity of, you know, of a human person and and really what what God intended when he made all of us. 01:29:17.225 --> 01:29:21.610 Like, what did he intended us to be, you know, and we're also discovering that every day, you know. 01:29:21.990 --> 01:29:24.150 So I just wanna thank you, Isaiah, for being here. 01:29:24.470 --> 01:29:25.510 I know you spent extra time. 01:29:25.510 --> 01:29:27.210 I mean, Isaiah is a full time student. 01:29:27.510 --> 01:29:33.510 As soon as student assistantship is busy guy, so I really appreciate you, in the clinic now as well seeing clients. 01:29:33.510 --> 01:29:39.225 So, it really, really takes, time to be here, and I really appreciate it and and thank you for that. 01:29:40.085 --> 01:29:42.245 And I really just wanna, you know, thank everyone for being here. 01:29:42.245 --> 01:29:48.965 If I didn't get to your question, I'd definitely ask you to please go ahead and email us at admissions.PsyD@divinemercy.edu. 01:29:49.360 --> 01:29:53.780 If you have questions as you you follow-up after this, webinar, feel free. 01:29:54.080 --> 01:30:02.640 Again, I just wanna say thanks to all of you, and, again, we'll be following up over email, and I wish you all a great night, and, hopefully, we'll all be in touch soon. 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:04.157 So I'll close out with that. 01:30:04.157 --> 01:30:05.277 So thank you, everyone. 01:30:05.277 --> 01:30:06.097 Take care. 01:30:06.477 --> 01:30:07.297 Bye, Isaiah. 01:30:07.757 --> 01:30:08.237 Thanks. 01:30:08.237 --> 01:30:08.896 Thank you.