WEBVTT 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:05.620 Hello, everyone. 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:11.360 We're just waiting just a few moments to allow for our study student to get here. 00:00:11.360 --> 00:00:16.935 He's actually coming from class, and, he'll be joining us shortly. 00:00:17.795 --> 00:00:19.495 My name is Ebony Schamberger. 00:00:19.635 --> 00:00:29.450 I'm the marketing and communications manager here at Divine Mercy University, and it's always nice to know where everyone is joining us from. 00:00:29.450 --> 00:00:31.630 So we actually have a chat feature. 00:00:32.170 --> 00:00:36.110 You can submit your, city and state into the chat. 00:00:36.810 --> 00:00:44.875 And if you have any questions now that we can just go ahead and prepare for, feel free to leave them in the chat as well. 00:00:45.495 --> 00:00:45.975 Let's see. 00:00:45.975 --> 00:00:47.595 What is the cost of the program? 00:00:47.655 --> 00:00:47.975 Okay. 00:00:47.975 --> 00:00:49.915 I see one question coming in now. 00:00:50.135 --> 00:00:54.475 So that is actually something that we went over a little bit last night. 00:00:55.310 --> 00:01:10.635 So the program is a hundred and twenty two credit hours, and each credit hour is, a little over a thousand dollars, and that's for the span of five years. 00:01:11.495 --> 00:01:17.835 So the full cost of the program I'm gonna pull it up so that you can actually see that. 00:01:18.455 --> 00:01:24.400 Here it has, the actual total cost without the fees and indirect expenses. 00:01:25.820 --> 00:01:40.175 We also allow you to have the federal aid program accommodate you veterans' aids, internal scholarships, and different cash plans, private funding, agency organizations. 00:01:40.395 --> 00:01:52.620 So, here's a list of our scholarships, and we're actually currently promoting our early admissions scholarship, which is in a bonus scholarship. 00:01:52.760 --> 00:02:02.140 We don't offer that all of the time, but if you were to apply before October 29, you would qualify for that $3,000. 00:02:04.335 --> 00:02:04.835 Great. 00:02:04.895 --> 00:02:05.215 Alright. 00:02:05.215 --> 00:02:07.455 So I'm happy to have you here, Isaiah. 00:02:07.455 --> 00:02:10.435 I think that you do a great job of introducing yourself. 00:02:10.495 --> 00:02:20.170 I was just here, in the meantime, but I'll stick around in the background, and allow you to answer all the questions that's here. 00:02:21.510 --> 00:02:22.010 Okay. 00:02:22.070 --> 00:02:23.050 That sounds great. 00:02:23.110 --> 00:02:23.430 Yeah. 00:02:23.430 --> 00:02:25.030 I'll just introduce myself briefly. 00:02:25.030 --> 00:02:36.295 My name is Isaiah Lamb, second year PsyD student at DMU, Originally from South Dakota, so the East Coast has been a fun adventure for me and a and a change. 00:02:36.295 --> 00:02:38.875 So happy to be here and answer some questions. 00:02:41.895 --> 00:02:46.920 First one I see, do students work while in the program part time? 00:02:48.740 --> 00:03:08.995 So I I don't know, Ebony, if if the, assistantships were mentioned, but that is an opportunity for society students is to, through the university, have an opportunity to work, ten hours a week and get, money added to their tuition or taken away from their tuition costs, basically. 00:03:09.295 --> 00:03:11.235 So that option is available for people. 00:03:12.190 --> 00:03:30.905 If you're asking more about part time outside of the university, that's something that is, it is possible, but it's very, very difficult to pull off in a lot of ways, just because you would have to have very, very flexible scheduling, with whoever you're working for. 00:03:31.125 --> 00:03:35.625 Your first year, when you're not doing as much clinical work, it's it's more feasible. 00:03:36.405 --> 00:03:41.620 But as you, go through the program, it becomes a lot more clinical based. 00:03:41.620 --> 00:03:51.220 And so your responsibilities, get more they they they get more clinical, and so you're gonna have to be spending more time in the clinic doing work like that. 00:03:51.220 --> 00:03:58.945 And so it gets a lot harder to work part time outside of outside of the university. 00:03:59.085 --> 00:04:05.005 So the assistantships are helpful in your third and fourth years because you're TA ing for classes. 00:04:05.005 --> 00:04:09.905 It's already kind of related to what you're doing as opposed to doing something completely separate. 00:04:10.650 --> 00:04:12.590 So, hopefully, that answers that question. 00:04:14.890 --> 00:04:15.290 Okay. 00:04:15.290 --> 00:04:16.110 Here's one. 00:04:17.210 --> 00:04:18.830 I already have a degree in psychology. 00:04:19.290 --> 00:04:23.230 What else can I do to qualify me for the PsyD program? 00:04:24.225 --> 00:04:24.385 Yeah. 00:04:24.385 --> 00:04:25.925 So, that's a great question. 00:04:27.185 --> 00:04:32.165 Obviously, the base knowledge of psychology is going to be incredibly helpful. 00:04:32.305 --> 00:04:36.245 We actually don't that's not a prerequisite for joining the PsyD program. 00:04:36.990 --> 00:04:42.130 Obviously, you have to have some sort of desire and passion, to to work in the field of psychology. 00:04:43.790 --> 00:04:45.790 But as far as yeah. 00:04:45.790 --> 00:04:50.130 That's it's not necessarily, a requirement to be in the program. 00:04:50.430 --> 00:05:05.690 So if you're looking for other things to qualify you, I would say, interpersonal, like skills or something that you might wanna look at. 00:05:06.310 --> 00:05:11.910 And just, yeah, just really examining how you relate to other people because the site is clinical based and clinical focused. 00:05:11.910 --> 00:05:17.675 So you go through this program with the intent to be a clinical psychologist, doing therapy. 00:05:17.975 --> 00:05:22.775 And even if you don't end up doing that full time, it is a part of the program. 00:05:22.775 --> 00:05:25.595 Like, you're going to have to be giving therapy to people. 00:05:25.815 --> 00:05:31.850 So I think what's gonna be really helpful is your interpersonal style, and and just taking a look at that. 00:05:31.850 --> 00:05:35.150 When you go through your interviews, that's something they're assessing. 00:05:35.210 --> 00:05:37.070 Like, how do you relate to other people? 00:05:37.210 --> 00:05:44.205 Because psychology is a field of of relationship and and understanding between each other. 00:05:44.205 --> 00:05:45.665 So that's really important. 00:05:46.045 --> 00:05:51.405 There are statistical, like, realities of the program. 00:05:51.405 --> 00:05:57.960 So a PsyD is not research based like a PhD, but there are, like, research requirements. 00:05:57.960 --> 00:05:59.580 You're gonna have to be doing a dissertation. 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:04.840 There are research design classes, where you know, don't worry. 00:06:04.840 --> 00:06:10.860 You don't have to be, you know, incredibly gifted with stats, but it is something you're gonna have to be prepared for. 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:18.015 So just having a sense of of numbers and that sort of sort of thing can be really helpful for that. 00:06:18.715 --> 00:06:34.210 I would like to ask if, maybe you could share, a little bit about your gap year, from undergrad to grad and maybe how you think some of your your experience may have attributed to being a strong applicant. 00:06:35.070 --> 00:06:35.470 Yeah. 00:06:35.470 --> 00:06:36.210 Of course. 00:06:36.510 --> 00:06:44.025 So, for me, between my undergrad and and applying to DMU, I spent a year, doing homeless outreach in Denver. 00:06:44.645 --> 00:06:53.385 And and for me, that that really, for one, it solidified my desire to do psychology and to pursue it as a career. 00:06:53.685 --> 00:07:05.070 Because when you're working with the homeless, I mean, oftentimes, you come across, mental illness in very profound ways, sometimes in ways you wouldn't even see in a clinic because it's just so severe. 00:07:07.690 --> 00:07:09.915 So for me, that really strengthened everything. 00:07:09.915 --> 00:07:17.775 I had the opportunity to go out every single day and, just sit and have conversations with with people living on the street and experiencing homelessness. 00:07:19.195 --> 00:07:24.730 So for me, actually, having an opportunity to see mental illness firsthand was very helpful. 00:07:26.230 --> 00:07:30.630 And that was definitely that's experience that I will pull from for the rest of my life. 00:07:30.630 --> 00:07:46.305 But especially in this program, that's been really helpful to actually get out there and and find ways where you can encounter the suffering that people are experiencing in the world and and learn how to sit with that and and be with people in that. 00:07:47.165 --> 00:07:52.910 So that might be an example of of things you can do to help prepare, is yeah. 00:07:52.910 --> 00:07:55.970 Just starting to build those relationships with other people. 00:07:58.030 --> 00:07:58.530 Okay. 00:07:58.670 --> 00:07:59.810 Let's see here. 00:08:00.190 --> 00:08:03.730 What are the key things I need to focus on when it comes to the admissions process? 00:08:03.870 --> 00:08:04.110 Okay. 00:08:04.110 --> 00:08:05.863 So probably related to that last question. 00:08:08.895 --> 00:08:10.275 Let me think about this. 00:08:10.415 --> 00:08:14.515 Been a while since I did my own admissions process, so I have to think back to it a bit. 00:08:15.695 --> 00:08:24.620 I think some of the things I was just saying, just being aware of your inner personal relationships and and how you relate to other people is is very important. 00:08:26.440 --> 00:08:39.615 I think there are some essay questions that really just talk about and ask you about your desire for this field and to identify the reasons why you want to pursue psychology. 00:08:40.075 --> 00:08:41.755 So that's really important. 00:08:41.755 --> 00:08:47.235 I would say don't go into that just thinking, you know, I'll just write something down and hope it goes through. 00:08:47.235 --> 00:08:53.730 I it's something you really do need to think about deeply because, the PsyD program is it's five years. 00:08:53.730 --> 00:08:55.670 It's intense in a lot of ways. 00:08:57.410 --> 00:09:02.150 And you'd wanna set yourself up for success by really taking the time to ask yourself. 00:09:02.530 --> 00:09:02.850 Okay. 00:09:02.850 --> 00:09:04.230 Why am I doing this? 00:09:04.445 --> 00:09:05.965 And what it what do I plan to do? 00:09:05.965 --> 00:09:09.265 And how do I plan to incorporate this into the rest of my life? 00:09:09.645 --> 00:09:11.405 So I think that's a very important thing. 00:09:11.405 --> 00:09:14.685 They're gonna ask you about it in in interviews is, okay. 00:09:14.685 --> 00:09:17.665 Well, why psychology and why not counseling? 00:09:18.050 --> 00:09:22.390 So if you don't know all the differences between those two, that's something we need to look into. 00:09:23.090 --> 00:09:30.870 They're just kind of they they're they're similar in a lot of ways, but there's there's differences that really set them apart. 00:09:31.255 --> 00:09:41.355 So being able to articulate why, and and how you plan to to pursue those things is really important when looking at admissions. 00:09:43.015 --> 00:09:43.515 Okay. 00:09:45.330 --> 00:09:46.130 Let's see here. 00:09:46.130 --> 00:09:48.470 How do you balance personal life and your education? 00:09:48.850 --> 00:09:58.530 You know, that's a great question, and that's a question that I think we should all be asking ourselves, whether it's education or just jobs in general. 00:09:58.530 --> 00:10:06.185 How are we taking care of ourselves and giving ourselves the best opportunities to succeed in things? 00:10:06.645 --> 00:10:17.190 For me, I'm a very social person, so it's really necessary for me to just find events even if it's just once a week or once every two weeks to just go out with with people. 00:10:18.710 --> 00:10:20.390 Sometimes it's just going out to eat. 00:10:20.390 --> 00:10:23.450 Sometimes it's just one on one conversations with other people. 00:10:24.390 --> 00:10:28.550 There are certain moments where you have to sacrifice that and just get your work done. 00:10:28.550 --> 00:10:42.455 But for me, I've found if I if I have discipline in my routine, I'm able to actually uphold a personal life, and enjoy the the company of people around me and also do well at my work. 00:10:42.990 --> 00:10:56.610 So I think discipline is probably kind of the answer to that, and that's something you can start thinking about is how can I become more disciplined in in my work and, yeah, and to focus on the things that need to get done? 00:10:57.175 --> 00:11:09.595 And I I thought that I I just jump in and say, you know, you're also the president of the student leadership committee, and I'm sure it requires a little bit more discipline than normal. 00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:24.850 Maybe even just, sharing a little bit about, how, you're able to work with your cohort or even the the student body and, provide entertainment for them or just educational, events. 00:11:25.395 --> 00:11:27.815 I know that that's also another thing you're balancing. 00:11:29.715 --> 00:11:30.035 Yeah. 00:11:30.035 --> 00:11:30.435 Yeah. 00:11:30.435 --> 00:11:30.935 Exactly. 00:11:31.155 --> 00:11:31.475 Yeah. 00:11:31.475 --> 00:11:45.020 So for me, the student leadership committee is, yeah, kind of this organization within the program that advocates for students, and and it's, like, meant to develop, the students professionally and academically. 00:11:45.640 --> 00:11:49.160 And a huge part of that is taking care of yourself and finding that balance. 00:11:49.160 --> 00:12:01.595 So for me, I have the the it's kind of interesting, the paradox of I have this extra responsibility to be on this this committee, which advocates for, the care of students in a lot of ways. 00:12:02.295 --> 00:12:04.395 So that's just kind of an interesting thing. 00:12:04.740 --> 00:12:08.660 But I think what's important is finding the things that bring you life and and fulfill you. 00:12:08.660 --> 00:12:15.320 And so for me, organizing things and having kind of an administrative role in things really brings me life. 00:12:16.835 --> 00:12:18.355 And so that's important to me. 00:12:18.355 --> 00:12:26.775 And in some ways, even though it's a responsibility, it actually helps me do well in other things because I'm doing something that I love when I do that. 00:12:27.555 --> 00:12:29.095 So, yeah, we'll put on events. 00:12:30.630 --> 00:12:31.750 We have one coming up. 00:12:31.750 --> 00:12:44.010 It's kind of a professional development where we're gonna be looking at resumes, and getting some input from faculty on, you know, how do you tailor your resume to this particular clinic? 00:12:44.855 --> 00:12:45.655 Questions like that. 00:12:45.655 --> 00:12:47.815 We have, a service event as well. 00:12:47.815 --> 00:12:49.995 Like I I said, I did homeless outreach. 00:12:50.055 --> 00:12:54.395 So we're planning in a home a homeless outreach day, I think next week. 00:12:55.175 --> 00:13:11.030 And so, yeah, having that responsibility to find these opportunities for others to really engage in the community and tap into that that inner desire to to serve, to be with others, and to to be excellent in the things that we do. 00:13:14.365 --> 00:13:15.585 So let's see here. 00:13:16.765 --> 00:13:17.565 A lot of good questions. 00:13:17.565 --> 00:13:18.045 Holy cow. 00:13:18.045 --> 00:13:19.085 They just keep coming. 00:13:19.085 --> 00:13:19.905 This is awesome. 00:13:20.365 --> 00:13:20.845 Okay. 00:13:21.405 --> 00:13:27.105 What is the age range of people in your cohort, and what has helped you most in your preparation for this program? 00:13:27.390 --> 00:13:35.090 So age range, my cohort in particular, I would say most of us are between there's some of us that came right out of undergrad. 00:13:35.230 --> 00:13:37.310 I was not one of them, but there's a few. 00:13:37.310 --> 00:13:46.285 So probably anywhere from 22 to I think we may have one person that's maybe early forties. 00:13:48.025 --> 00:13:49.005 Don't tell them. 00:13:49.305 --> 00:13:50.665 I can't I can't tell what their age is. 00:13:50.665 --> 00:13:52.925 I think it's either late thirties or early forties. 00:13:54.660 --> 00:13:56.360 And so that is pretty typical. 00:13:56.660 --> 00:13:58.500 There's no age limit, really. 00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:04.020 I mean, you have to have a bachelor's degree, so that's kind of the one requirement, for the program. 00:14:04.020 --> 00:14:13.095 But, generally, most cohorts, I would say, are in that mid twenties to mid thirties range, with a few exceptions. 00:14:13.235 --> 00:14:14.775 So I would say that's the majority. 00:14:16.115 --> 00:14:19.335 Most in what has helped me most in my preparation for this program. 00:14:20.595 --> 00:14:27.060 Honestly, being on the streets with people, doing homeless ministry, that prepared me because I saw it. 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:35.840 I saw the mental illness that was there and present, and it allowed me to grapple with, yeah, is this something that I can do going forward? 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:40.745 And and for me, feeling like I could, that that really prepared me in profound ways. 00:14:41.365 --> 00:14:45.625 I know not everyone has that opportunity, but but for me, that was very moving. 00:14:47.285 --> 00:14:47.605 Okay. 00:14:47.605 --> 00:14:49.125 Which courses are most grueling? 00:14:49.125 --> 00:14:50.505 Which year is most grueling? 00:14:51.780 --> 00:14:52.820 That's a great question. 00:14:52.820 --> 00:14:59.400 Year two is pretty, widely accepted as the most difficult year, which is what I'm doing. 00:14:59.620 --> 00:15:01.460 So, pray for me. 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:04.360 I prayers for me, please. 00:15:05.355 --> 00:15:10.235 So and part of the reason that that is the case is that your first year starts very academic heavy. 00:15:10.235 --> 00:15:13.695 In fact, that's really all you're doing is you're just doing academic classes. 00:15:14.635 --> 00:15:18.740 Once you start your second year, you're now taking on clinic responsibilities. 00:15:18.740 --> 00:15:23.960 So DMU has a, an in house clinic that the second year staff. 00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:32.280 So at this point, you have your pretty heavy academic load, and now you're adding on a clinic work. 00:15:32.535 --> 00:15:37.895 And then also in your second year, you're beginning to look at dissertation topics and beginning work on that. 00:15:37.895 --> 00:15:41.655 So that's just kind of another thing you add on top is okay. 00:15:41.655 --> 00:15:48.800 Your dissertation doesn't have to be done your second year, but you really gotta start getting a plan for for that and how it's gonna be laid out. 00:15:50.380 --> 00:15:51.920 So that's the second year. 00:15:52.220 --> 00:16:01.520 The classes that are probably the most difficult would be now you might have some variance depending on the on on who you ask. 00:16:02.335 --> 00:16:07.555 Statistical courses can be pretty difficult for people just because it's not always people's wheelhouse. 00:16:07.855 --> 00:16:09.795 They're not as comfortable as statistics. 00:16:11.055 --> 00:16:13.635 So those can be they can be difficult for people. 00:16:13.970 --> 00:16:17.990 But I think maybe the most labor intensive classes would be the assessment courses. 00:16:18.610 --> 00:16:20.690 And these are these are the class I just actually got. 00:16:20.690 --> 00:16:22.130 That's the class I was running from. 00:16:22.130 --> 00:16:24.870 The the few minutes I was late, I was my assessment class. 00:16:25.090 --> 00:16:32.665 So we we learn how to administer, psychological assessments, and there's just a lot to that. 00:16:32.665 --> 00:16:39.705 Learning how to look at the data, and then make interpretations based on that and apply that to the person that's in front of you. 00:16:39.705 --> 00:16:49.000 There's just so much there's so many moving parts involved with it, and it's a really beautiful process, but it's it's complex, and it's there's a lot to it. 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:53.020 So I would say the assessment courses are probably the most difficult. 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:54.440 And it's not even difficult. 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.875 It's just, you know, time consuming and and giving yourself time to wrap your head around it. 00:16:59.195 --> 00:17:03.215 I do see some students, walking around with these briefcases. 00:17:04.635 --> 00:17:07.275 And I I I'll ask, what's that? 00:17:07.275 --> 00:17:11.055 And they'll say, well, this is a child assessment, kit. 00:17:11.840 --> 00:17:15.360 I think it'd be interesting to talk a little bit about that and and share. 00:17:15.360 --> 00:17:22.180 I don't know if you've done those assessments just yet, but, you do have, like, some gear you had to work with. 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:23.295 Yeah. 00:17:23.615 --> 00:17:24.115 Exactly. 00:17:24.255 --> 00:17:28.655 So, I think the one you're probably referring to is it's called the WISC. 00:17:28.655 --> 00:17:31.715 So it's the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children. 00:17:33.615 --> 00:17:37.860 And so that is one one class, that we take on assessment. 00:17:37.860 --> 00:17:40.520 There's a there's a sequence of three assessment courses. 00:17:40.740 --> 00:17:46.440 The first one you take is focused on cognitive and behavioral observations and and assessments. 00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:59.165 So when you're working with kids, there's different ways to measure different abilities, different reasoning abilities, attention spans, those type of things. 00:18:00.105 --> 00:18:14.220 So those briefcases that, you know, that you see, Ebony, sometimes they're filled with, like, I wouldn't call them toys, but there's, like, manipulatable objects that help with that process, to to assess that. 00:18:14.220 --> 00:18:29.175 I can't actually reveal too much because, an important part about assessments is that they're they're kind of if you know how they work, then they're invalid, and and they they you can't get the results that you want. 00:18:29.175 --> 00:18:36.810 So there's a there's a level of security that we have actually have to have with assessments and not letting people know how they work type of thing. 00:18:37.190 --> 00:18:40.810 So, yeah, but very interesting. 00:18:40.870 --> 00:18:42.410 I absolutely love assessments. 00:18:43.510 --> 00:18:43.910 Okay. 00:18:43.910 --> 00:18:44.710 Another question here. 00:18:44.710 --> 00:18:48.010 Do you work in groups a lot or more independence required? 00:18:49.505 --> 00:18:54.245 Now this is actually it's kinda up to your cohort to decide how much you work together. 00:18:54.785 --> 00:18:57.365 My I would say my cohort's a little bit more independent. 00:18:58.305 --> 00:19:03.480 There were certain projects where we collaborated, when we were able to. 00:19:04.020 --> 00:19:11.240 There are certain like, the there are definitely assignments where it has to be individual, and you can't collaborate, and that's made very explicit. 00:19:12.580 --> 00:19:22.835 But there are other opportunities where, yeah, we'll get together, and we'll kinda make a study guide together and go through it so we can be prepared for exams or something like that. 00:19:24.575 --> 00:19:29.475 So some group work kinda depends on the cohort and what people want. 00:19:30.830 --> 00:19:31.330 Alright. 00:19:31.390 --> 00:19:35.890 How's the doctoral experience different from a master as far as homework reading time? 00:19:36.270 --> 00:19:42.190 I can't actually speak to that because, the PsyD program I didn't do a master's. 00:19:42.190 --> 00:19:44.610 You don't need a master's to start the PsyD program. 00:19:44.925 --> 00:19:51.565 You get a master's along the way as a part of the doctorate program. 00:19:51.565 --> 00:19:56.545 So this spring, I will actually, receive my master's assuming I make it through and survive. 00:19:57.600 --> 00:19:59.920 So I can't really speak to the difference. 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:04.640 I have a few friends in, like, say, the master's in counseling program, and that is difficult. 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:10.100 I mean, the readings, I would say they're comparable as far as amount of reading. 00:20:10.515 --> 00:20:24.615 But the problem that people run into with those programs, the hybrid programs that they're trying to work also while doing, they're trying to work full time while doing a a a counseling program, and I think that's more of the issue. 00:20:25.050 --> 00:20:29.790 Whereas in some ways, the luxury of the PsyD program is that I can just focus. 00:20:30.170 --> 00:20:32.170 Like, school is my job in some ways. 00:20:32.170 --> 00:20:36.590 I do a few things on this side, but, like, most of my time is devoted to that. 00:20:37.465 --> 00:20:52.860 So readings, there's a lot of them, and I would say that's probably close to maybe how a master's goes, but just a lot of in-depth reading and a lot of different subjects as well. 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:55.180 What is considered full time? 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:02.280 I guess I'm not sure how the distinction is made between, like, a counseling program and a and PsyD program. 00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:08.815 But full time, I mean, you're putting in at least forty hours of work, in a PsyD program. 00:21:08.815 --> 00:21:11.395 So I suppose that's kinda what makes it full time there. 00:21:12.175 --> 00:21:13.215 And, like yeah. 00:21:13.215 --> 00:21:21.660 So maybe to give to paint that picture a little more clearly, in the PsyD program, I'm taking, like, five classes right now. 00:21:22.120 --> 00:21:28.440 I have friends who are doing the the online masters, and they're taking one and or maybe two classes at a time. 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.645 I think two is kind of the maximum that you take. 00:21:31.125 --> 00:21:32.805 So there's just a lot more. 00:21:32.805 --> 00:21:36.425 We're taking, like, sixteen to seventeen credit hours every semester. 00:21:38.565 --> 00:21:41.145 So just generally more time put in. 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:43.540 Okay. 00:21:43.600 --> 00:21:44.160 Oh my gosh. 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:44.960 So many good questions. 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:46.580 Trying to get through all of them. 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.000 Student experience outside of classroom. 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.040 I'll speak a bit to that. 00:21:53.040 --> 00:21:54.660 So we're in the DC area. 00:21:54.825 --> 00:21:57.305 There's a lot of opportunities for social events. 00:21:57.305 --> 00:21:59.325 I'm one of the more social people in my cohort. 00:22:00.665 --> 00:22:05.725 So I'm always, like, going out, and I was in, like, DC last night hanging out with people. 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:14.960 So there's a lot of opportunities to kinda just do whatever you want, to join young adult groups. 00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:17.180 There's a lot of hiking around here. 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:19.840 The mountains are are fairly close to Shenandoah. 00:22:21.135 --> 00:22:27.775 Some people like to just kind of adventure and see nature, as well as just attend various events in the area. 00:22:27.775 --> 00:22:29.075 So that's pretty fun. 00:22:29.135 --> 00:22:31.635 Lot lot of opportunities in this area. 00:22:32.830 --> 00:22:36.690 Maybe I'll come back to some of those, but wanna make sure everyone's questions. 00:22:38.670 --> 00:22:46.130 Can an individual can an individual with a, PhD in educational psych be admitted into your PsyD? 00:22:46.725 --> 00:22:47.685 If so, what level? 00:22:47.685 --> 00:22:47.925 Okay. 00:22:47.925 --> 00:22:51.145 So what I think this question is getting at you can correct me if I'm wrong. 00:22:51.525 --> 00:22:52.405 And you can apply. 00:22:52.405 --> 00:22:55.465 Even if you have a doctorate, you could certainly pursue another one. 00:22:56.405 --> 00:22:59.705 What I think the question is getting at is is there a way to transfer credits? 00:23:00.060 --> 00:23:02.080 There are some classes that transfer. 00:23:02.220 --> 00:23:06.400 I think you can only transfer up to 18 credits from other programs. 00:23:09.100 --> 00:23:13.280 So there there is a possibility for that, but that's not ever really a guarantee. 00:23:14.085 --> 00:23:19.765 So you'd wanna be checking in, as you apply to see what what classes may possibly transfer. 00:23:19.765 --> 00:23:26.505 Generally, those are gonna be more of your basic classes like psychopathology, maybe research design. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:29.940 Trying to think of other classes that might transfer. 00:23:31.040 --> 00:23:38.900 So just, yeah, check-in if you're if that applies to you and see if there might be some room for credits to be transferred. 00:23:41.185 --> 00:23:41.425 Okay. 00:23:41.425 --> 00:23:44.005 How are you finding the financial management of the program? 00:23:44.625 --> 00:23:44.865 Yeah. 00:23:44.865 --> 00:23:45.745 That's a great question. 00:23:45.745 --> 00:23:48.305 So it's I'd be straight up. 00:23:48.305 --> 00:23:51.365 It's not it's not a cheap endeavor in a lot of ways. 00:23:52.770 --> 00:23:55.670 For one living on the East Coast, like I said, I'm from the Midwest. 00:23:55.730 --> 00:23:58.630 So, everything is cheaper there. 00:23:58.850 --> 00:24:04.950 I mean, I remember I had rent for, like, $2.50 a month when I lived in the Midwest. 00:24:05.725 --> 00:24:09.325 So living out here where things are just a lot more expensive, it is. 00:24:09.325 --> 00:24:13.825 It's it's it's a lot it's a change of how you view things. 00:24:14.685 --> 00:24:20.385 So just being out here is expensive, and then the program itself is I mean, it it costs money. 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:22.780 Certainly, the scholarships are very, very helpful. 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:31.900 But I think the most important thing about handling the financial aspect of it is really you really do have to start viewing it as, an investment. 00:24:32.775 --> 00:24:36.375 It's gonna you're gonna have to, like, in some ways, bite that bullet and say, okay. 00:24:36.375 --> 00:24:43.995 I'm I'm gonna go into debt over this unless you have fantastic finances, you know, leading up to it. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.920 But you to really view it as an investment is like, okay. 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:55.780 I'm putting this money and this time into it with the with the trust that it's going to pay off in several years. 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.360 And that can be very difficult. 00:24:57.360 --> 00:25:00.945 I think the world we live in is we we don't tend towards that. 00:25:00.945 --> 00:25:03.925 We kinda just want the results immediately. 00:25:05.185 --> 00:25:08.485 So really shifting to that mindset of this is investment. 00:25:08.545 --> 00:25:10.725 And more than that, it's an intense investment. 00:25:10.785 --> 00:25:16.620 I really am putting a lot into this, but knowing that the outcome will definitely be worth it. 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:25.740 So for me, I I will share that I, have taken out loans, and so I'm kind of, relying on those loans to provide for me at this time. 00:25:26.505 --> 00:25:31.865 But also just speaking about the field of psychology, if that's any concern, like, there's job security. 00:25:31.865 --> 00:25:34.685 Like, you'll have a job for the rest of your life. 00:25:35.225 --> 00:25:38.845 Just I mean, if you look around at the world, like, there's just so much brokenness. 00:25:38.985 --> 00:25:47.400 And so just finding security in that and, knowing that there's just so many opportunities for you. 00:25:47.700 --> 00:25:51.160 And the debt thing, I really do think it's manageable. 00:25:51.300 --> 00:25:59.355 I I don't think that should be the I I think it's a very important factor, but I think you have to keep in mind the end goal. 00:26:00.055 --> 00:26:02.635 Hopefully, that speaks to your question there. 00:26:04.455 --> 00:26:04.955 Okay. 00:26:06.215 --> 00:26:09.515 Questions about library resources, technical assistance. 00:26:12.350 --> 00:26:12.750 Yeah. 00:26:12.750 --> 00:26:17.710 So the library, you get help from that kind of just as you request it. 00:26:17.710 --> 00:26:24.850 So we have an online library system where you can access databases all the time twenty four seven. 00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:34.265 And, if you need a, like, a book or an article that we don't actually have, yeah, the librarians are incredibly helpful. 00:26:34.885 --> 00:26:36.005 They will get it. 00:26:36.005 --> 00:26:43.300 Sometimes I've had the article given to me, like, an hour later, or if they have, like, send for a book, it'll be in a in a few days. 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:46.720 So, yeah, very helpful in that way. 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.680 They kinda just help you out when you ask for it. 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.860 So kind of your prerogative to reach out for help there. 00:26:56.165 --> 00:26:56.485 Okay. 00:26:56.485 --> 00:26:57.205 Turn that. 00:26:57.205 --> 00:26:58.665 Couple places for questions. 00:26:59.205 --> 00:27:01.045 Attend enrolling in 2023. 00:27:01.045 --> 00:27:02.985 Is it too early to begin registration? 00:27:04.725 --> 00:27:07.305 I, yeah, I believe so. 00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:08.340 Yeah. 00:27:08.340 --> 00:27:16.820 I don't think applications are gonna open for 2023 until, would that would be, like, next summer or something like that. 00:27:16.820 --> 00:27:19.080 So '22 is the focus. 00:27:21.875 --> 00:27:24.035 I would start maybe looking at things. 00:27:24.035 --> 00:27:30.535 Obviously, that's if you're, you know, if you're attending this panel, then then you're kind of beginning that process. 00:27:31.315 --> 00:27:43.320 Definitely start applying for those scholarships, since you do have a one year gap, that will be my top recommendation outside scholarships. 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:45.640 Yeah. 00:27:45.780 --> 00:27:46.280 Exactly. 00:27:46.820 --> 00:27:47.540 It's gonna be good. 00:27:47.540 --> 00:27:51.575 Just start looking at everything and getting a sense of how it's all gonna go. 00:27:52.995 --> 00:27:55.095 What could be the average number of persons admitted? 00:27:55.475 --> 00:28:01.175 So I think I'm gonna I'm gonna give a ballpark estimate. 00:28:01.315 --> 00:28:07.160 I think that 20 might be the maximum for a cohort, give or take a few. 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:11.640 The average cohort is generally closer to 15 or 16. 00:28:14.500 --> 00:28:17.140 So that's generally what you're gonna be looking at. 00:28:17.140 --> 00:28:24.445 I think, as far as this year with COVID and everything, we had one smaller cohort that just came in. 00:28:26.025 --> 00:28:28.745 But, generally, you're looking at yeah. 00:28:28.745 --> 00:28:36.490 I would say safely, you know, 10 to 16 is a good range of cohort size, which you're gonna find is really helpful. 00:28:36.550 --> 00:28:49.685 It's enough to get to know your cohort really well, but not, yeah, it's not too much, and it's not too little where you just feel like you know everyone's secrets or something like that. 00:28:49.685 --> 00:28:52.905 So okay. 00:28:53.605 --> 00:29:02.430 Students ask whether they can transfer credits from their MSC, Master's of science in clinical psych, I assume, their program. 00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:03.130 Yeah. 00:29:03.130 --> 00:29:04.030 That's one thing. 00:29:04.090 --> 00:29:10.590 If if there's specific credits like that, that's probably gonna be a case by case basis. 00:29:12.365 --> 00:29:15.085 It really depends on what they are, what the credits are. 00:29:15.085 --> 00:29:21.585 If it's gonna be if it's like, DMU is obviously very philosophically and theologically oriented. 00:29:21.645 --> 00:29:28.270 So we're going we're we have our own way of teaching that and introducing those ideas. 00:29:28.330 --> 00:29:34.670 And so we probably in that realm, we won't accept really credits from other places even if they're philosophically minded. 00:29:34.730 --> 00:29:52.215 It's because our mission is so specific and has, like, its its own system, basically, that that we we won't every every student needs to take that class here, basically, so we can ensure that we're getting the information that we wanna provide in that way. 00:29:52.215 --> 00:29:59.890 So as far as credits and transferring, definitely case by case, I would reach out to, the rep for that. 00:30:00.270 --> 00:30:06.875 So let's see. 00:30:08.295 --> 00:30:11.995 How does DMU combine a theological perspective with the psychology aspect? 00:30:12.775 --> 00:30:13.095 Yeah. 00:30:13.095 --> 00:30:13.815 That's a good question. 00:30:13.815 --> 00:30:17.895 I'm trying to think of how to break that down because that's that's such a rich question. 00:30:17.895 --> 00:30:23.890 And, really, that's what we spend five years doing, while we're here is learning how to put those two together. 00:30:24.750 --> 00:30:31.470 So I think philosophy being kind of the basis of how we evaluate things. 00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:31.710 Right? 00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:39.325 We have to get this idea of who the person is and what they are, and that's our foundation. 00:30:39.325 --> 00:30:40.845 And theology informs that. 00:30:40.845 --> 00:30:41.085 Right? 00:30:41.085 --> 00:30:48.925 We know it's been revealed to us that humans are, inherently good, and we are made by God and made in his image. 00:30:48.925 --> 00:30:52.280 And so because of that, we are very good. 00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:57.560 That alone transforms everything in psychology and therapy. 00:30:58.260 --> 00:30:58.500 Right? 00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:08.695 Because now instead of this random, you know, clump of cells in front of me for a lack of better term. 00:31:08.755 --> 00:31:09.795 Now it's like, oh, no. 00:31:09.795 --> 00:31:10.935 This is a person. 00:31:10.995 --> 00:31:17.415 Like, this is someone who reflects God and has such, like, incredible dignity. 00:31:18.050 --> 00:31:22.290 It just transforms the way that you look at a person and how you interact with them. 00:31:22.290 --> 00:31:30.685 So just from the very beginning, that that that first principle of life being and humans being good and and filled with profound dignity is where we start. 00:31:30.685 --> 00:31:35.025 And then we just build from there, learning how to incorporate, like, emotions. 00:31:35.165 --> 00:31:37.325 Emotions are important to us. 00:31:37.325 --> 00:31:38.865 Our desires are important. 00:31:39.085 --> 00:31:42.865 The passions, they make up who we are. 00:31:43.650 --> 00:31:50.550 And so, like, just sifting through how that relates to a person's psychology. 00:31:51.010 --> 00:31:52.950 We're made to be interpersonally relational. 00:31:53.090 --> 00:31:54.530 We learned that from the trinity. 00:31:54.530 --> 00:31:55.030 Right? 00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:56.975 Like, god is relational. 00:31:57.035 --> 00:31:59.935 Love is relational, between persons. 00:32:00.315 --> 00:32:09.480 And so we transfer that to psychology, and we say, well, if a person doesn't have relationships, then there's a part missing from what they were made for. 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:09.720 Right? 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:14.200 Like, they were made to reflect God and be, communal and have relationship. 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:17.660 And if they don't have that, there's a defect there. 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:25.185 So it's just taking all these truths of of theology and and philosophy regarding the human person. 00:32:25.185 --> 00:32:25.905 And, like, okay. 00:32:25.905 --> 00:32:27.685 Now how do we implement that? 00:32:27.825 --> 00:32:37.285 And where that's lacking, how do we speak to that and help a person grow, say, in virtue and and lead them more towards their flourishing as a whole person? 00:32:38.620 --> 00:32:40.560 So, hopefully, that gets at that question. 00:32:42.620 --> 00:32:45.740 Five years to to learn to to begin to learn all that. 00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:52.720 It's really a lifelong process of incorporating, you know, god's design for creation and and psychology. 00:32:54.425 --> 00:32:55.805 Lot of good things there. 00:32:56.585 --> 00:32:57.065 Okay. 00:32:57.065 --> 00:32:59.965 What advice would you recommend based on your overall experience? 00:33:03.705 --> 00:33:08.045 As far probably as as far I'm taking that as as far as applying to the program. 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:09.640 Yeah. 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:22.780 I think like I said before, just really taking time to reflect on what you want from this program and if this is actually what you desire and why. 00:33:22.975 --> 00:33:25.235 I think that reveals a lot about you. 00:33:25.695 --> 00:33:27.375 They I always kinda joke with people. 00:33:27.375 --> 00:33:34.815 I did my undergrad in psychology, and I would always kinda joke like, oh, I'm doing I'm studying psychology so I can figure myself out. 00:33:34.815 --> 00:33:37.930 And I was, like, kinda joking, kind of, like, honest. 00:33:39.030 --> 00:33:40.630 And that's, yeah, that's kind of the thing. 00:33:40.630 --> 00:33:45.530 In undergrad, it feels like people are just trying to, like, figure themselves out and solve their own problems. 00:33:45.830 --> 00:33:47.370 And that's really important. 00:33:48.870 --> 00:33:57.175 But I would say at this level, it's not the best approach to have when you're starting a program like this. 00:33:57.175 --> 00:33:59.915 I I think it has to be others oriented. 00:34:00.375 --> 00:34:01.495 There can be parts of that. 00:34:01.495 --> 00:34:05.730 Of course, we wanna know more about ourselves and and why we work the way that we do. 00:34:06.610 --> 00:34:17.730 But it I think the more important thing is learning and and, yeah, just looking in yourself and seeing why am I actually doing this. 00:34:17.730 --> 00:34:19.785 Is it to help others? 00:34:19.785 --> 00:34:26.525 Does is it to serve others, or is it really just, like, I wanna figure my family out type of thing? 00:34:26.585 --> 00:34:28.345 So really just questioning your motivations. 00:34:28.345 --> 00:34:33.480 I think that's gonna be very helpful in deciding whether this program is for you or not. 00:34:33.640 --> 00:34:35.420 Also, just taking a look at the practicals. 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:36.120 Right? 00:34:36.120 --> 00:34:38.040 Like, you have to move all the way across the country. 00:34:38.040 --> 00:34:39.960 You have to move to the East Coast to do this program. 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.660 So is that feasible? 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.040 Do I think I can handle moving to a new place? 00:34:44.040 --> 00:34:46.540 All those sorts of things, you have to take into account. 00:34:48.265 --> 00:34:50.185 And, yeah, a lot of big questions. 00:34:50.185 --> 00:34:51.165 No doubt there. 00:34:51.305 --> 00:34:58.205 But just start start grappling with those and being honest with you with with yourself and asking those questions. 00:34:59.865 --> 00:35:00.365 Okay. 00:35:00.825 --> 00:35:07.670 Are you able to find reasonable accommodations nearby for adults and family? 00:35:07.810 --> 00:35:11.970 So I I personally don't have, my own family, in the area. 00:35:11.970 --> 00:35:13.670 I'm I'm a single person, so I'm not married. 00:35:14.450 --> 00:35:23.075 I do know several people who are married and moved even to the area to start this program, and it seems like they have been able to adjust very well. 00:35:23.075 --> 00:35:26.375 The Northern Virginia area is actually quite family oriented. 00:35:27.475 --> 00:35:30.295 So there's a lot of opportunities for good things there. 00:35:32.240 --> 00:35:32.640 Yeah. 00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:36.000 Just I would say just opportunities in every regard. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:43.760 Like, this is such a populated area, with DC being close and other major cities being close. 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:48.115 There's you can pretty much find, anything that you need out here. 00:35:49.215 --> 00:35:54.575 Oh, so does DMU offer a post, baccalaureate in psychology? 00:35:54.575 --> 00:35:59.530 I'm actually not a 100% sure post bacc, what that means. 00:35:59.530 --> 00:36:03.150 I I don't I'm I can say pretty certainly that we don't offer that. 00:36:03.530 --> 00:36:09.870 We just offer the the master's programs in the in the, the doctorate program. 00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:15.285 If you're asking about, like, a postdoc, which I'm not sure you are, DMU doesn't offer those. 00:36:15.285 --> 00:36:21.625 Those postdocs would be at other sites throughout The US that a person could apply to. 00:36:23.125 --> 00:36:24.005 So yeah. 00:36:24.005 --> 00:36:36.020 So I guess I I'm not a 100% sure how to answer that question, but I can say that DMU just offers the master's programs and the, the doctorate program as areas of study. 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.295 You may I'm not sure you're able to audit. 00:36:39.295 --> 00:36:49.475 You may be able to audit classes, but I think those are those are rare exceptions, and that would also be a case by case situation. 00:36:51.215 --> 00:36:54.460 Can you do the course in four years? 00:36:57.160 --> 00:36:57.660 No. 00:36:58.440 --> 00:36:59.240 Not really. 00:36:59.640 --> 00:37:05.320 So it's a five year program, and I guess there's a couple ways to think about it. 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:13.035 So it's one way to think is it's four years of academic work and then one year of internship. 00:37:14.055 --> 00:37:30.430 So in some senses, it is four years of class, and then you go and the the internship is, a program where you apply to different sites throughout throughout the country, and you kinda match. 00:37:30.430 --> 00:37:42.385 If you have any familiarity with how med school works, once a person graduates from med school, they apply to these residencies, throughout The US to start specializing in things that they're interested in. 00:37:42.925 --> 00:37:50.850 So and and the psychology program is very much like that, except you don't get your doctorate until after you finish that, until you've gotten your hours for that. 00:37:52.270 --> 00:37:55.070 So internship, very generally, yeah, that's how it works. 00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:56.530 You those are paid. 00:37:59.230 --> 00:38:01.495 So it depends on the site. 00:38:01.495 --> 00:38:05.435 Like I said, there's different sites throughout the entire US that you can apply to. 00:38:05.655 --> 00:38:07.595 Some pay better than others. 00:38:08.055 --> 00:38:09.735 Some pay don't pay as well. 00:38:09.735 --> 00:38:14.060 They do pay you, and you're generally able to cover your your expenses. 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:19.260 So that's something to keep in mind is you do move to the area for four years. 00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.780 And then in all likelihood, you will be moving to another part of the country for your fifth year for your internship. 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.700 But as far as the sequence, there's really no way to do it any quicker. 00:38:29.125 --> 00:38:37.625 There's just so much involved in the training that I don't I personally don't think it would be healthy to try and make it go any faster. 00:38:38.725 --> 00:38:47.790 And that's tough because I like I said, I think, nowadays, we just we tend towards wanting things very quickly, and I feel that way myself. 00:38:47.790 --> 00:38:48.110 Right? 00:38:48.110 --> 00:38:51.010 We just wanna be done with it and get the degree. 00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:56.545 And, it's something where you definitely need to put the work in, but it's all worth it. 00:38:57.245 --> 00:38:59.265 Maybe just say a little bit more about internships. 00:39:00.685 --> 00:39:03.025 Internships can be any state, basically. 00:39:05.245 --> 00:39:11.040 Yeah, throughout the country, there's just several, several opportunities that people apply to. 00:39:11.180 --> 00:39:13.500 Those can be at college counseling centers. 00:39:13.500 --> 00:39:14.800 Those can be at hospitals. 00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:16.540 Just a wide range. 00:39:16.540 --> 00:39:26.275 As you get into the field, you get a sense of how much and how many different opportunities there are in different populations that you can work with. 00:39:28.015 --> 00:39:29.795 So that kinda covers that. 00:39:31.055 --> 00:39:31.695 Let's see here. 00:39:31.695 --> 00:39:34.515 I feel like I've got most of these questions. 00:39:35.460 --> 00:39:35.700 Okay. 00:39:35.700 --> 00:39:38.500 I see Ebony's sharing the screen there. 00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:38.660 Yeah. 00:39:38.660 --> 00:39:44.500 So that's kind of a run through of of how everything works through the program. 00:39:44.500 --> 00:39:55.305 So you'll find that as you progress, as you get closer to that internship, your work shifts more from academic to being more clinical. 00:39:55.445 --> 00:40:05.510 So you get a lot of the theory upfront, and then you start applying it, and then you eventually move towards externships working on community. 00:40:06.770 --> 00:40:08.630 And then finally, your fifth year. 00:40:08.690 --> 00:40:14.070 For all intents and purposes, you're working as a psychologist, but you're not licensed and you don't have your degree yet. 00:40:14.385 --> 00:40:17.845 So it's just getting that that final training before you actually get your degree. 00:40:19.425 --> 00:40:21.745 So let's see here. 00:40:21.745 --> 00:40:22.805 A lot of good questions. 00:40:23.025 --> 00:40:23.525 Yeah. 00:40:25.505 --> 00:40:25.745 Yeah. 00:40:25.745 --> 00:40:27.445 I don't see any other questions. 00:40:27.585 --> 00:40:32.960 If you have some more, definitely feel free to type those up. 00:40:33.430 --> 00:40:34.310 It's you know? 00:40:34.310 --> 00:40:47.575 And I I I do wanna just take an opportunity to say, you know, as you're as you're looking at coming here, I think the logistics and all of the details of things kind of, you know, take over. 00:40:47.575 --> 00:40:50.055 And that that makes sense, and that's a really important thing. 00:40:50.055 --> 00:40:57.355 You have to make sure that you're able to do it, you know, that you have the that's a practical opportunity for you. 00:40:59.410 --> 00:41:06.230 But maybe to just speak a little bit about the results of it and the experience of actually doing it. 00:41:07.010 --> 00:41:13.985 For me, it's just been an absolute gift, and I have definitely enjoyed it. 00:41:13.985 --> 00:41:18.165 It's not been without its challenges, but, like, what good thing doesn't have its challenges? 00:41:18.225 --> 00:41:18.885 You know? 00:41:19.425 --> 00:41:31.420 So for me, all of this all of the discernment of, you know, costs, relocation, just all the details that you're talking about, the interview process, worrying about that. 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.040 It's all just been so worth it for me, and it's just paid off. 00:41:36.040 --> 00:41:46.905 I'm only my second year, but the the and as I start as a therapist in the clinic, it becomes more and more clear that this is, like, yeah, what I meant to do. 00:41:46.905 --> 00:41:55.350 And being in those moments with people and their suffering and seeing hope, like, come into those places, it makes all of the trouble worth it. 00:41:56.610 --> 00:42:16.185 And so, again, like, the that discernment process, if this is what you feel called to do and and you think that this is really what your life is aiming towards, then I can say, and I feel this way, that all of the, work and the struggle that goes into it is absolutely always worth it. 00:42:18.565 --> 00:42:19.065 Yeah. 00:42:19.310 --> 00:42:23.970 So just wanted to share that piece because it can be easy to focus on just the logistics of things. 00:42:27.390 --> 00:42:28.350 Let's see here. 00:42:28.350 --> 00:42:31.810 Good relationship between students and lecturers. 00:42:32.110 --> 00:42:32.610 Yes. 00:42:32.990 --> 00:42:37.135 Kind of speaking to that, the small size of cohorts. 00:42:38.155 --> 00:42:40.475 And we don't have, like, a huge faculty. 00:42:40.475 --> 00:42:44.095 I think there's probably 10 around 10 PsyD faculty. 00:42:45.835 --> 00:42:50.790 So you definitely get to know your your professors very, very well. 00:42:50.850 --> 00:42:54.790 And you oftentimes, you'll have the same professor multiple times throughout the program. 00:42:54.930 --> 00:42:56.370 So that's one thing I love about it. 00:42:56.370 --> 00:43:08.705 I just love developing those relationships with my professors and really getting to know them and seeing them as humans, which sometimes you don't get the experience of if like, me, my undergrad was a big was a big university. 00:43:08.925 --> 00:43:17.150 So you get some if you started out, you could get to know your professors somewhat well, but here, it's very different. 00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:20.690 You really feel cared for and that they're looking out for your well-being. 00:43:22.990 --> 00:43:23.230 Okay. 00:43:23.230 --> 00:43:24.910 Another question here about vacation time. 00:43:24.910 --> 00:43:27.010 This is a good one and good to be aware of. 00:43:30.145 --> 00:43:47.870 It's it's good to think of the program as kind of like a job in that you will certainly get breaks around Christmas between terms, But your summers are gonna be a lot more limited and have a lot more responsibilities. 00:43:49.290 --> 00:43:52.910 As you get into clinical work, you are starting to work as a clinician. 00:43:52.970 --> 00:44:10.775 And so, unfortunately, you can't really take a month off to go do things because, because you have clients to attend to, and, you need to be around and being able to provide for them in that way. 00:44:10.915 --> 00:44:17.750 So your first year when you're doing pre like, when it's academic work and not so much clinical work, you have really nice breaks. 00:44:17.750 --> 00:44:19.450 You get a great Christmas break. 00:44:20.950 --> 00:44:24.890 The summer before you start your first year, you have to enjoy. 00:44:25.385 --> 00:44:29.005 But then after your first year, you start working in the clinic during the summer. 00:44:29.465 --> 00:44:40.410 So, sometimes when people are in between externships, they get more of a break because maybe one externship ends in May and the next one doesn't start till August or something like that. 00:44:40.490 --> 00:44:43.610 In that case, you get a a free summer, and that's really great. 00:44:43.610 --> 00:44:44.670 People love that. 00:44:45.450 --> 00:44:50.650 But it's it's best to not rely on that and to kind of view it as a full time job. 00:44:50.650 --> 00:44:56.765 Once you start, you'll get occasional breaks, but, generally, it's full time. 00:44:58.585 --> 00:44:59.085 Okay. 00:45:00.985 --> 00:45:02.125 Let's see here. 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:07.580 All the questions. 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.980 Maybe just leave a couple minutes in case there are any more questions. 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:16.860 But, yeah. 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:18.940 Thanks for sharing all of that information. 00:45:20.775 --> 00:45:24.855 It makes me understand the student experience even more. 00:45:24.855 --> 00:45:29.975 And I used to wonder why am I seeing students during the summertime, and you kinda answered that. 00:45:29.975 --> 00:45:32.155 So Yeah. 00:45:32.215 --> 00:45:32.715 Exactly. 00:45:33.095 --> 00:45:34.215 It's, it is. 00:45:34.215 --> 00:45:38.300 It's a full time thing and takes a lot of, commitment. 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.200 But, like I said, it's all worth it. 00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:42.520 So alright. 00:45:42.520 --> 00:45:44.300 I see one last question here. 00:45:44.600 --> 00:45:48.300 Can one be admitted with, GRE results pending? 00:45:50.405 --> 00:45:54.585 I don't believe trying to think here with the GRE. 00:45:55.205 --> 00:46:07.940 I think you can be interviewed, with unofficial results, but there has to be at least unofficial results, given to to be to qualify to be interviewed. 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:15.380 But they cannot make a decision until the GRE scores are official, because that is a part of the decision process. 00:46:17.455 --> 00:46:19.955 So hopefully, that answers that question. 00:46:25.455 --> 00:46:25.955 Okay. 00:46:30.860 --> 00:46:31.360 Great. 00:46:32.380 --> 00:46:33.920 I don't know if there's any more. 00:46:34.700 --> 00:46:39.600 I know we have a few more minutes, but, okay. 00:46:39.660 --> 00:46:40.400 Late admission. 00:46:44.085 --> 00:46:48.905 As far as late admission, I mean, once the deadlines have passed, I think those are pretty hard deadlines. 00:46:50.405 --> 00:46:52.665 I wouldn't count on that being the case. 00:46:53.285 --> 00:46:56.340 So I know there I think there's any Ebony, you can connect. 00:46:56.340 --> 00:46:58.740 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there are three deadlines. 00:46:58.740 --> 00:47:02.600 There's one in October and then two in the spring semester. 00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:15.325 So I would really aim for those because at a certain point, you're doing you're not doing yourself a favor by not being prepared and not hitting those deadlines. 00:47:16.825 --> 00:47:23.085 Yeah, it's And, also, the earlier you apply, the more scholarships you qualify for as well. 00:47:24.345 --> 00:47:24.745 Yeah. 00:47:24.745 --> 00:47:25.245 Exactly. 00:47:25.545 --> 00:47:30.960 So you just wanna put yourself in the best position possible there. 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:41.045 And just if you're thinking about it, you're thinking pretty seriously about it, I would just, you know, start the application process as soon as you can and then go from there. 00:47:41.905 --> 00:47:43.525 But I won't count on a late admission. 00:47:49.905 --> 00:47:50.405 Great. 00:47:50.545 --> 00:47:51.845 These have been great questions. 00:47:52.820 --> 00:47:56.440 Really enjoyed this this time with you guys. 00:47:58.340 --> 00:47:58.660 Yeah. 00:47:58.660 --> 00:47:59.060 Thanks. 00:47:59.220 --> 00:48:08.295 Like I said, it's a great program, and there's a lot of wonderful things about this this this school and this program in particular. 00:48:09.235 --> 00:48:10.915 So I definitely just encourage you. 00:48:10.915 --> 00:48:13.715 Like I said, you know, ask those questions about yourself. 00:48:13.715 --> 00:48:19.320 Is this really what I think I wanna do, and does it feel like I have the ability to do it? 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.000 And then go for it. 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.200 That's gonna be a huge thing. 00:48:22.200 --> 00:48:25.980 It's just just taking the initiative and going for it. 00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:28.920 I think that's incredibly important. 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:38.115 And for me, that's been a huge thing is at a certain point, you just have to take the leap and and just do it. 00:48:39.455 --> 00:48:40.035 So great. 00:48:42.175 --> 00:48:42.575 Alright. 00:48:42.575 --> 00:48:43.775 Thanks again, Isaiah. 00:48:43.775 --> 00:48:48.435 And I know that I hope that you ate lunch already before you head back to your classes. 00:48:48.495 --> 00:48:52.930 But, if you haven't, hopefully, you can grab something to eat. 00:48:53.630 --> 00:49:09.275 I've put a few things in the chat that, if you haven't been paying attention to the chat, please make sure you write down the application fee waiver, which is code CCMMP1999. 00:49:10.535 --> 00:49:13.915 That's so that you do not have to pay the application fee. 00:49:14.135 --> 00:49:16.055 So then what's what's there to hurt? 00:49:16.055 --> 00:49:16.695 You know? 00:49:16.695 --> 00:49:19.595 Let's just just go for it. 00:49:20.250 --> 00:49:27.470 And if you have any additional questions, our admissions rep, in the interim is Steve Showalter. 00:49:28.890 --> 00:49:34.590 His email address is sshowalter@divinemercy.edu. 00:49:35.375 --> 00:49:38.595 And you can also, give him a call. 00:49:39.455 --> 00:49:49.250 His cell is (571) 290-7580, and he can receive text messages at that number as well. 00:49:50.190 --> 00:49:52.910 But I do again thank you, Isaiah, for your time. 00:49:52.910 --> 00:50:00.110 Hopefully hopefully, you won't have to run too fast to your next class, and, we'll be sending a recording just in case you missed anything. 00:50:00.110 --> 00:50:03.315 So, you all have a a blessed day. 00:50:03.935 --> 00:50:04.435 Great. 00:50:04.815 --> 00:50:05.555 Thank you. 00:50:06.175 --> 00:50:06.915 Thank you.