WEBVTT 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:10.500 And thank you everybody, tonight's, you know, webinar on the master's degree of psychology. 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.860 I have a, one of our graduates Go ahead. 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:23.625 She is from Canada, and we have, there's a school a little bit north of, Toronto called Our Lady Seed of Wisdom. 00:00:24.325 --> 00:00:32.700 And she is the, director of student services, and she's also a professor of psychology now. 00:00:32.700 --> 00:00:35.580 So she'll be teaching, you know, classes for that. 00:00:35.580 --> 00:00:42.480 And, anyway, you know, she has been through the program, you know, remotely in, you know, in Canada. 00:00:42.540 --> 00:00:43.600 She came to graduation. 00:00:43.900 --> 00:00:47.315 We met her and, just, you know, wonderful person. 00:00:47.315 --> 00:00:49.815 So, anyway, welcome, Karen. 00:00:49.955 --> 00:00:53.415 And, so, I'm gonna ask Karen, you know, a few questions. 00:00:53.795 --> 00:01:00.455 And, so so so, Karen, you know, like I said, there's a lot of schools that you could have gone to. 00:01:00.830 --> 00:01:06.130 Why did you choose Divine Mercy University for the master of psychology degree online? 00:01:06.990 --> 00:01:14.530 Well, I I first of all, I wanted I needed to continue to work full time, in in my job as director of student services. 00:01:15.285 --> 00:01:17.625 So I needed to find an online program. 00:01:18.325 --> 00:01:30.920 And then I was looking through online programs, and the main reason is that I didn't want to have to study psychology from a secular perspective. 00:01:31.620 --> 00:01:36.440 And Divine Mercy when I came across Divine Mercy, it was everything I was looking for. 00:01:36.740 --> 00:01:53.385 So I was thrilled that I could actually study psychology online and work full time and not have to spout nonsense and be able to learn the material from a Catholic perspective. 00:01:53.385 --> 00:01:56.045 It was extremely important to me. 00:01:56.265 --> 00:01:56.585 Yeah. 00:01:56.585 --> 00:01:56.905 Yeah. 00:01:56.905 --> 00:01:57.625 That's great. 00:01:57.625 --> 00:02:08.020 So but, so how did you manage your time, being working full time and going to school? 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.820 Well, I it did take a lot of evenings and weekends. 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:26.755 But because the program is 99% of the time, you're working independently, you can manage it in your at your own time, which is very important. 00:02:26.755 --> 00:02:31.720 So I didn't have to attend classes at any particular time, so So that made a big difference. 00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:32.260 Mhmm. 00:02:32.260 --> 00:02:39.640 And the material, there's a, you know, there's a fair bit of reading and there's a fair bit of writing, but it wasn't onerous. 00:02:39.860 --> 00:02:49.635 It was entirely possible to do it evenings and weekends while I worked full time and still managed to do quite well. 00:02:49.635 --> 00:02:50.355 So yeah. 00:02:50.355 --> 00:02:51.475 Oh, very good. 00:02:51.475 --> 00:02:58.535 So and, you know, every every student has to write with a capstone paper. 00:02:59.370 --> 00:03:02.910 And, Karen, what was your capstone paper title? 00:03:03.530 --> 00:03:09.130 My capstone was, are for students at Our Lady Seat at Wisdom College. 00:03:09.130 --> 00:03:14.765 It was I created a, mental health training seminar Mhmm. 00:03:14.925 --> 00:03:18.465 For the student leaders at Our Lady Seed of Wisdom College. 00:03:18.845 --> 00:03:20.305 So that was my title. 00:03:21.325 --> 00:03:40.330 Basically, it was a program where during the summer, during their training during the summer, the students learn how they can handle mental health issues that may arise in their households when they are RAs and proctors in the in the different households. 00:03:40.925 --> 00:03:41.425 Okay. 00:03:41.725 --> 00:03:48.945 And you you you know, in in the program, you know, I call you do a lot of what I call researching. 00:03:49.725 --> 00:03:52.465 You know, you find different articles through the library. 00:03:52.525 --> 00:03:53.905 You know, you read them. 00:03:54.250 --> 00:03:54.490 Yes. 00:03:54.490 --> 00:03:57.610 Then you write about them and then reflect on them. 00:03:57.610 --> 00:04:03.550 So, I mean, how did you find your your topics for that interesting capstone? 00:04:04.730 --> 00:04:12.265 Well, the database that we have access to through Divine Mercy University is amazing. 00:04:14.245 --> 00:04:30.640 And I was able to research questions like, our resident assistant training and, mental health in college, problems among college students and things like that. 00:04:30.640 --> 00:04:38.545 I could actually just search my topics in the database, and all kinds of articles would come up. 00:04:38.605 --> 00:04:40.605 So I was able to find an awful lot. 00:04:40.605 --> 00:04:45.265 And using that, Divine Mercy database, it was amazing. 00:04:45.725 --> 00:04:46.225 Okay. 00:04:46.525 --> 00:04:53.770 So, I mean, you you know, Our Lady Seed of Wisdom, you know, it's a, you know, one entity of a college. 00:04:53.770 --> 00:05:02.990 I mean, is is this something more of a, like, a group issue among all the universities in Canada and The US? 00:05:04.425 --> 00:05:07.085 Our Lady Seed of Wisdom College is very tiny. 00:05:07.305 --> 00:05:20.330 We're a very small school, and so we don't have the same amount of access to the databases that I could I could access through Divine Mercy, so I was grateful for that. 00:05:20.470 --> 00:05:20.970 Mhmm. 00:05:21.030 --> 00:05:24.970 I mean, we have some, but not not to the extent that Divine Mercy has. 00:05:25.510 --> 00:05:26.070 I see. 00:05:26.070 --> 00:05:30.490 So, you know, when when you went through the program, did you did you have a favorite class? 00:05:31.395 --> 00:05:32.115 Oh, gosh. 00:05:32.115 --> 00:05:33.495 I loved a lot of them. 00:05:34.595 --> 00:05:35.815 Developmental psychology. 00:05:36.275 --> 00:05:48.220 And in fact, the course that I'm teaching at the college in January will be, developmental psychology two, which is development from adolescence through old age. 00:05:48.440 --> 00:05:51.820 Oh, that's a that's a big life that's a big span. 00:05:52.200 --> 00:05:53.000 It's a big span. 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:02.385 But there's an but the the development from prenatal to the beginning of adolescence is also actually very packed. 00:06:02.445 --> 00:06:03.725 That's a course of itself. 00:06:03.725 --> 00:06:07.025 And then from adolescence through old age is another course. 00:06:07.405 --> 00:06:09.165 So that's what I'm gonna be teaching. 00:06:09.165 --> 00:06:15.090 But it touches on all kinds of current hot button topics, which will be very interesting to address. 00:06:15.390 --> 00:06:15.890 Okay. 00:06:16.030 --> 00:06:27.285 Because, you know, you know, many time well, many times a lot of times when you you're immersed into the program, you you you have many different instructors for your courses and that. 00:06:27.365 --> 00:06:32.425 But, how did your instructors help you individually, Karen? 00:06:33.605 --> 00:06:42.770 Some of them had, times when we would agree as a class, which might what time might be a good time to have a Zoom meeting as a group. 00:06:43.150 --> 00:06:54.770 Those were very helpful, especially because also when we had those Zoom meetings, we were able to interact more face to face with the other students in the program. 00:06:55.075 --> 00:06:55.815 Oh, okay. 00:06:56.275 --> 00:07:03.175 And, actually, I became very close with an quite a number of the students in my cohort, and that was really lovely. 00:07:04.595 --> 00:07:05.555 So Yeah. 00:07:05.715 --> 00:07:09.875 So you had had Zoom meetings with your your your fellow students then too? 00:07:09.875 --> 00:07:10.050 Yes. 00:07:10.210 --> 00:07:12.230 With the professor and the fellow students. 00:07:12.530 --> 00:07:13.170 Oh, okay. 00:07:13.170 --> 00:07:18.070 And then professors would also whenever we would write something, professors would give feedback. 00:07:18.610 --> 00:07:32.475 Some professors would create a video that we could watch where they discussed the topic that we were writing about on a particular week or more of their expectations for the the topic we had to write on. 00:07:32.475 --> 00:07:37.055 And so there were a variety of ways that the professors were very helpful. 00:07:38.950 --> 00:07:51.850 And how did you I mean, I don't know if you knew your your your capstone title from day one or before you started classes, but how did you arrive at your capstone title? 00:07:52.575 --> 00:08:09.550 Well, because I work in the department of student services, I would be getting RAs and proctors coming to me very stressed because of having to deal with mental health issues in their houses, and they felt very unprepared for this. 00:08:10.090 --> 00:08:18.510 So I suddenly realized what a need there was to prepare them, and so that's what inspired me to choose my capstone topic. 00:08:20.015 --> 00:08:20.655 So Yeah. 00:08:20.655 --> 00:08:24.595 Because I was seeing burnout in the RAs and proctors Oh, mhmm. 00:08:25.535 --> 00:08:30.275 Because of the stress of dealing with mental health issues in their in their households. 00:08:30.895 --> 00:08:31.395 Okay. 00:08:31.535 --> 00:08:31.775 Yeah. 00:08:31.775 --> 00:08:33.635 I mean, that's a problem to do. 00:08:33.695 --> 00:08:48.725 And, also, not even necessarily only mental health issues, but even just ordinary issues of, things like relationship problems or discipline areas, having to discipline their fellow students. 00:08:48.725 --> 00:08:51.705 Some of those were challenging things for them as well. 00:08:52.965 --> 00:08:56.085 So my my topic was quite like, we covered quite a few things. 00:08:56.085 --> 00:09:01.860 It was it's a two day seminar two well, two half day seminars. 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:04.680 Eight hours of seminar Mhmm. 00:09:04.900 --> 00:09:07.080 On dealing with issues in their households. 00:09:07.940 --> 00:09:08.440 Okay. 00:09:08.980 --> 00:09:14.440 So now you said that now you're just you're to be teaching develop mental or, Yes. 00:09:14.900 --> 00:09:16.120 Developmental psychology? 00:09:16.695 --> 00:09:17.195 Yes. 00:09:17.335 --> 00:09:17.735 Okay. 00:09:17.735 --> 00:09:18.235 Okay. 00:09:18.295 --> 00:09:22.855 So I'm sure you have to have a good lesson plan and syllabus and all that. 00:09:22.855 --> 00:09:26.475 Now you have to develop that yourself or I do. 00:09:26.615 --> 00:09:26.935 Okay. 00:09:26.935 --> 00:09:27.335 I do. 00:09:27.335 --> 00:09:40.730 And thanks to Divine Mercy, I am actually incorporating some aspects of what I learned at Divine Mercy, particularly the Catholic model of the human person, which we talk about quite a bit. 00:09:40.790 --> 00:09:50.625 I'm going to be incorporating some of that into the beginning of that course to give us a a framework within which to discuss human development. 00:09:52.205 --> 00:10:00.970 And, you know, and one thing I know in in our first class psychology five fifty, which is we call it the the I call it the flourishing class. 00:10:01.270 --> 00:10:01.770 Yes. 00:10:01.910 --> 00:10:06.250 And, how do you help people flourish, Erin? 00:10:08.630 --> 00:10:16.685 My goal my job, really, I would say, at Our Lady's Seat of Wisdom is to allow the students to succeed. 00:10:16.825 --> 00:10:44.415 I my student success is my my big project, my big job at the college, and it's helping them basically overcome obstacles to success for so whether they are, you know, stress, anxiety, sometimes some of them are dealing with mental health issues, depression, various things. 00:10:44.955 --> 00:10:49.855 Some of them are dealing with, household relationship problems. 00:10:51.115 --> 00:11:00.210 The amount of things I learned doing the program at Divine Mercy that have helped me do my job better. 00:11:00.430 --> 00:11:01.490 It's it's incredible. 00:11:02.110 --> 00:11:11.650 I mean, it's night and day, the amount how much I'm more able to help the students at the college given what I learned at Divine Mercy. 00:11:12.375 --> 00:11:17.035 I'm much, much more effective as a helping professional. 00:11:18.295 --> 00:11:18.855 Oh, great. 00:11:18.855 --> 00:11:19.255 Great. 00:11:19.255 --> 00:11:28.340 Because, you know, it looks like there some of the participants of future students may have some questions for you. 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:35.220 And I don't know if we wanna do these by chat or if you can ask them because, Sheree, looks like you had to add some questions. 00:11:36.735 --> 00:11:37.315 I do. 00:11:38.175 --> 00:11:38.495 I do. 00:11:38.495 --> 00:11:39.135 I don't mind. 00:11:39.135 --> 00:11:40.335 It doesn't have to be chat. 00:11:40.335 --> 00:11:42.435 I'm I'm happy to have them Okay. 00:11:42.735 --> 00:11:43.135 Ask. 00:11:43.135 --> 00:11:43.635 Yes. 00:11:44.015 --> 00:11:44.735 Oh, awesome. 00:11:44.735 --> 00:11:45.475 Thank you. 00:11:46.655 --> 00:11:49.395 First of all, do you have to be Catholic to go there? 00:11:49.850 --> 00:11:50.430 You don't. 00:11:50.650 --> 00:11:51.690 You don't have to. 00:11:51.690 --> 00:11:53.230 But you do have to practicing. 00:11:53.610 --> 00:11:54.110 Okay. 00:11:54.330 --> 00:11:58.910 You do have to realize that the program is taught from a Catholic perspective. 00:11:59.530 --> 00:12:00.030 Yes. 00:12:00.170 --> 00:12:04.625 And you do have to read church documents as well. 00:12:04.625 --> 00:12:06.485 I love well, I'm a Christian. 00:12:06.945 --> 00:12:08.945 I just I'm not a practicing Catholic. 00:12:08.945 --> 00:12:12.625 It's not a church that I've gone to since I was a little girl. 00:12:12.625 --> 00:12:15.045 My my grandfather was a knight of Columbus. 00:12:15.505 --> 00:12:16.005 Okay. 00:12:16.065 --> 00:12:17.045 So yes. 00:12:17.430 --> 00:12:19.670 You it don't have to be Catholic. 00:12:19.670 --> 00:12:30.070 You just have to the the Catholic meta model is called actually called the Catholic Christian meta model of the it's really the way Christians see. 00:12:30.070 --> 00:12:30.570 Yes. 00:12:30.630 --> 00:12:37.075 And it's not it's you know, you're not gonna find things that conflict with your Christian beliefs. 00:12:37.075 --> 00:12:38.195 You it you know? 00:12:38.195 --> 00:12:38.595 Yeah. 00:12:38.595 --> 00:12:38.915 I know. 00:12:38.995 --> 00:12:42.695 Realize it's from a Catholic perspective, but it's it's from a Christian perspective. 00:12:43.235 --> 00:12:43.475 Yeah. 00:12:43.475 --> 00:12:45.475 It's just I like you like you. 00:12:45.475 --> 00:12:51.560 I'm I wanted I want to go somewhere where I'm not gonna get a secular education. 00:12:52.020 --> 00:12:52.340 Exactly. 00:12:52.340 --> 00:13:00.185 And that that's what I'm looking for, and that's why I wanted to come to this webinar, divine Yes. 00:13:00.405 --> 00:13:03.145 And, I'm also curious. 00:13:03.685 --> 00:13:06.005 I was thinking you've been you've been teaching. 00:13:06.005 --> 00:13:08.265 Have you always taught where you are? 00:13:08.885 --> 00:13:09.285 No. 00:13:09.285 --> 00:13:11.285 I'm just starting teaching where I am. 00:13:11.285 --> 00:13:16.350 I need because we at a college level, you have to have a master's degree to teach. 00:13:16.650 --> 00:13:35.475 So until I've been working in the department of student services, and when I became the director of student services, when the director retired and I took over her position, that's when I needed to find a master's program because in order to really do that job, I needed a master's degree. 00:13:35.615 --> 00:13:49.140 So, really, originally, I was just getting the letters after my name, but this program has made me much more effective in that job and now also is allowing me to teach at the college. 00:13:49.760 --> 00:13:52.020 And that's what I wanna do is teach university. 00:13:52.640 --> 00:13:53.120 Mhmm. 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.715 I've been in a middle school and high school classroom for ten years. 00:13:56.875 --> 00:13:57.195 Okay. 00:13:57.195 --> 00:13:57.695 Perfect. 00:13:57.835 --> 00:14:01.455 And and, and secular classrooms. 00:14:02.075 --> 00:14:02.475 Okay. 00:14:02.635 --> 00:14:15.180 I've taught public school my whole career, and I I have, like, two possibilities of capstones I'm already thinking about, and I haven't even signed up. 00:14:15.180 --> 00:14:18.880 So and you take funding from the federal government. 00:14:19.420 --> 00:14:24.320 Student loans would be the only way I'd be able to, possibly go. 00:14:25.435 --> 00:14:29.215 And we give scholarships too, but not a 100% sure. 00:14:29.835 --> 00:14:30.715 Oh my gosh. 00:14:30.715 --> 00:14:31.695 That'd be amazing. 00:14:31.755 --> 00:14:35.935 Depending upon this or that, but, you know, that's something we, you know, we can discuss. 00:14:36.555 --> 00:14:36.875 Yeah. 00:14:36.875 --> 00:14:37.375 Sure. 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:53.045 Also, the reason I also wanna do a master of science besides being able to, you know, eventually teach, and be a doctor is, I was just diagnosed with bipolar this last year. 00:14:53.665 --> 00:14:55.045 I've had it all my life. 00:14:55.825 --> 00:15:01.445 I was diagnosed with depression as a young child, but in fact, as an infant. 00:15:03.025 --> 00:15:03.505 Mhmm. 00:15:03.505 --> 00:15:03.905 Yeah. 00:15:03.905 --> 00:15:04.645 My parents. 00:15:05.105 --> 00:15:05.925 Long story. 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:10.860 But I wanna help people like me. 00:15:11.800 --> 00:15:12.300 Yep. 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:36.750 And so that's another reason why I would love to come to Divine Mercy is because I wanna do it from a Christian perspective, and I love God, and I want them I I want to share God's love with anybody that I encounter besides possibly, you know, words of encouragement Right. 00:15:36.750 --> 00:15:38.290 And teaching still. 00:15:38.590 --> 00:15:41.970 And that is something we discuss a lot at Divine Mercy. 00:15:42.670 --> 00:15:46.850 And, you know, it sounds like you're you're you're you're flourishing already, Sheree. 00:15:47.390 --> 00:15:47.890 Yeah. 00:15:48.365 --> 00:15:52.525 And Well, right now, I'm not teaching, but I'm I'm not doing anything right now. 00:15:52.525 --> 00:15:59.425 I'm trying to get my cocktail of medication correct so that I can participate in in life again. 00:16:00.125 --> 00:16:00.605 That's great. 00:16:00.605 --> 00:16:01.245 That's great. 00:16:01.245 --> 00:16:02.945 So so, Delia. 00:16:03.890 --> 00:16:04.390 Yes. 00:16:04.850 --> 00:16:08.230 Oh, please please tell us your question. 00:16:09.410 --> 00:16:10.390 Oh, of course. 00:16:11.090 --> 00:16:23.055 My question is, so does the master's degree in counseling, does it prepare you to take the LPC? 00:16:27.035 --> 00:16:28.175 And are you okay? 00:16:28.530 --> 00:16:32.390 I can answer that one, but you you had part two of the question, though, too. 00:16:32.930 --> 00:16:38.550 And are you yet, have you been paid prep accredited? 00:16:40.530 --> 00:16:46.555 Well, you know, our master in psychology, you know, it's a 100% online. 00:16:46.555 --> 00:16:47.275 You know? 00:16:47.275 --> 00:16:53.995 You can do it in as little as sixteen months or twenty six months Mhmm. 00:16:54.075 --> 00:16:57.270 By either taking two classes or one class at a time. 00:16:57.350 --> 00:16:59.450 Now what state do you live in, Delia? 00:16:59.910 --> 00:17:00.970 I live in Virginia. 00:17:01.510 --> 00:17:01.830 Okay. 00:17:01.830 --> 00:17:07.430 So, you know, in Virginia, we we we have a it is a master's in counseling Mhmm. 00:17:07.590 --> 00:17:10.090 Towards licensure, but it's a five year program. 00:17:10.795 --> 00:17:11.295 Right. 00:17:11.915 --> 00:17:12.555 And Yeah. 00:17:12.555 --> 00:17:13.915 And it's different programs. 00:17:13.915 --> 00:17:21.135 The master of science the master of science is a stand alone program, and it's it is not licensable. 00:17:22.235 --> 00:17:26.770 Then there's the the master of counseling, and it is licensable. 00:17:27.790 --> 00:17:28.610 Oh, okay. 00:17:29.150 --> 00:17:30.450 So there's two programs. 00:17:30.510 --> 00:17:31.010 Yeah. 00:17:31.390 --> 00:17:31.890 Yeah. 00:17:32.110 --> 00:17:36.530 I do have a master's degree, and, I'm an art therapist. 00:17:37.295 --> 00:17:50.995 And I've been an art therapist since the mid nineties, and I'm also working on my substance abuse licensure. 00:17:51.375 --> 00:17:59.080 But I've I've I wanted to go for a a license in a LPC. 00:18:00.100 --> 00:18:09.485 But I I I I need, totally online because of work and that I could, work at my pace. 00:18:09.545 --> 00:18:17.485 And I do like the Catholic or, you know, aspect of it, which you don't see very much. 00:18:17.625 --> 00:18:18.025 Right. 00:18:18.025 --> 00:18:18.525 Right. 00:18:19.545 --> 00:18:24.080 The counseling degree is not entirely online. 00:18:24.080 --> 00:18:26.820 There is some component that is on campus. 00:18:27.520 --> 00:18:32.500 The master of science is completely online. 00:18:34.155 --> 00:18:35.375 Hello, Karen Hammond? 00:18:35.755 --> 00:18:38.555 It's our director of alumni relations there, Karen. 00:18:38.555 --> 00:18:42.175 Karen Hammond master's in psychology admissions person. 00:18:42.475 --> 00:18:46.575 I'm gonna interject because, gosh, you guys have such a dynamic webinar tonight. 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:55.420 But, you know, one thing, Marie, that I asked when I first started, as I said, why doc back then, it was doctor Duhemaine, who was the director of the program. 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.300 I said, tell me how to tell because we wanna put people in the right profession. 00:19:00.965 --> 00:19:05.545 What's the difference the big difference between the master's in counseling and the master's in psychology? 00:19:06.005 --> 00:19:07.625 She says pretty simple, Michelle. 00:19:08.325 --> 00:19:14.025 A master's in counseling, you basically were working all the time with very broken people. 00:19:14.760 --> 00:19:23.180 She says, masters in psychology, you have the skills and the traits and the abilities to help people not get broken. 00:19:23.800 --> 00:19:35.845 So we do have people in everything from, oh gosh, anything from behavioral count it's not counseling, but it's in a hospital environment where they need people who have a master's in psychology. 00:19:36.465 --> 00:19:38.405 We have individuals who are life coaches. 00:19:39.280 --> 00:19:41.460 We have people in a lot of areas of leadership. 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.440 So I think the being in the alumni association, I help place people. 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:46.580 I put them in positions. 00:19:47.280 --> 00:19:48.260 There's three things. 00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:50.260 Look at what you know you're gonna enjoy. 00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:52.665 Feed upon the talents you already have. 00:19:52.665 --> 00:19:59.245 And I remember when I talked with Karen a long time ago, you know, we talked very in-depth because it was a huge decision for her. 00:19:59.625 --> 00:20:12.040 Being in Canada and already in another institution of higher learning, we were always so proud that she made that decision and meet her at a graduation and getting to see her and hug her in person was even better. 00:20:12.040 --> 00:20:22.915 But one of the things that you can always do as any of our students, you can connect with me and alumni relations, and I always help you direct you to where maybe you need to go. 00:20:22.915 --> 00:20:28.375 So I'll hush up, but I'm just upstairs listening to this very dynamic, webinar. 00:20:28.435 --> 00:20:31.015 And thank you again, Karen, for your gift of time. 00:20:31.075 --> 00:20:32.295 You're welcome, Michelle. 00:20:32.355 --> 00:20:33.495 Nice to see you. 00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:34.800 Okay. 00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:45.420 So so so, Dale, yeah, I mean, those are great questions, and sometimes, you know, it everybody wants to be president of The United States. 00:20:45.420 --> 00:20:45.920 Okay. 00:20:46.140 --> 00:20:49.925 And sometimes, you gotta you you just kinda have to start out as a senator. 00:20:50.305 --> 00:21:01.605 So When I'm like, in the in the classes that I had, in my cohort, there were a wide variety of people doing a wide variety of things. 00:21:01.825 --> 00:21:03.285 There were parish priests. 00:21:03.825 --> 00:21:26.335 There were people who were working on campus ministry and teachers, all kinds of so different people in different walks of life who wanted to have a better sense of how they could do their job better and be more effective at helping the people who came to them. 00:21:26.335 --> 00:21:40.900 So they weren't necessarily dealing with people with a counseling situation in terms of people who already, like Michelle said, who already had problems, but how to help people just live their lives more effectively. 00:21:42.080 --> 00:21:42.480 Right. 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:54.345 I I've been working with chronic, mentally ill for the past twenty five years and and behavioral health, inpatient settings. 00:21:54.805 --> 00:21:59.705 I'd like to continue, you know, to do that because I really enjoy it. 00:22:00.860 --> 00:22:06.560 But I I I feel like I used to live in Texas, but I moved to Virginia. 00:22:06.620 --> 00:22:14.480 And I walk I work in Washington, DC, and I need other credentials to do what I want to do. 00:22:15.395 --> 00:22:20.535 So that's basically what I'm looking for. 00:22:20.915 --> 00:22:21.395 Okay. 00:22:21.395 --> 00:22:22.595 Well, thank you, Delia. 00:22:22.595 --> 00:22:27.095 Does anybody else have a raised hand question for for for Karen? 00:22:27.235 --> 00:22:30.710 Not me, Karen, who has been through it. 00:22:31.650 --> 00:22:35.030 It looks like Kristen has a hand up, but I'm not sure. 00:22:35.490 --> 00:22:37.330 Oh, let me scroll down here. 00:22:37.330 --> 00:22:38.550 So where is Kristen? 00:22:41.905 --> 00:22:43.105 I could be oh, no. 00:22:43.105 --> 00:22:48.965 That's not it's I just had my cursor, which is a hand, which is different names. 00:22:49.825 --> 00:22:50.325 Okay. 00:22:51.025 --> 00:23:01.250 So well, anyway, so if there's anything you could say as advice on, you know, how to make it through a program. 00:23:01.310 --> 00:23:03.970 Because, you know, a lot of times online, it's free. 00:23:04.510 --> 00:23:10.290 You know, you can study from your home and this and that, but you still have to study. 00:23:10.755 --> 00:23:12.215 And there's deadlines. 00:23:12.675 --> 00:23:18.055 And is there anything you can say that would, you know, help could help people be successful? 00:23:21.315 --> 00:23:22.215 Do the readings. 00:23:22.995 --> 00:23:24.375 It's very the readings. 00:23:24.700 --> 00:23:28.400 The whole program is based on readings and videos. 00:23:28.780 --> 00:23:34.780 So you there's a there's usually a couple of videos per per week. 00:23:34.780 --> 00:23:42.195 So it's it it's based you get a week's worth of materials, and then you can work on that whole week's worth of materials at your own pace. 00:23:42.735 --> 00:23:50.115 And each week, there are a number of readings, and it's important to do those readings. 00:23:53.340 --> 00:23:54.220 What can I say? 00:23:54.220 --> 00:23:59.120 I mean, I did work I did work pretty hard, but it was doable. 00:23:59.260 --> 00:24:02.320 It was definitely doable even with a full time job. 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:08.865 I would relax in the evenings and do my readings, and there's a fair bit of writing. 00:24:08.925 --> 00:24:14.145 I must say there is a fair bit of writing, but but I found it enjoyable. 00:24:14.365 --> 00:24:16.925 And the professor feedback is great. 00:24:16.925 --> 00:24:27.280 One of the things that the program's based on, and I think you would like this, the students every week, you write there's a question you have to give information. 00:24:27.340 --> 00:24:33.200 You have to write about, and all the students read your answers to the question. 00:24:33.420 --> 00:24:42.135 And then two of those students will well, actually, students will respond to you and you have to respond to at least two students. 00:24:42.675 --> 00:24:46.535 So it's not just a professor reading what you've written. 00:24:46.675 --> 00:24:56.200 The students are interacting with each other, reading each other's material, and I found that really beautiful and lovely. 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:05.500 And I think one of the things that helped me really want to do a good job was I was realizing that the other students were going to be reading what I wrote. 00:25:05.905 --> 00:25:14.165 So I would try to explain things as clearly as I was able to, maybe to help somebody else who is struggling with the material. 00:25:14.945 --> 00:25:24.530 And and so I that really gave me inspiration to do the best I could in my writing for the other students for the sake of the other students. 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:30.450 So so so, Karen, how did you feel when it was all over? 00:25:30.830 --> 00:25:33.570 I mean, no more, you know, no more classes. 00:25:35.045 --> 00:25:48.585 Well, it was both a relief, and it was sad because I really enjoyed interacting with all my friends in my cohort, and it was sad to think that that part of it was going to be over. 00:25:48.805 --> 00:25:49.790 I mean, yes. 00:25:49.790 --> 00:25:52.030 It was a lot of evening and weekend work. 00:25:52.030 --> 00:25:55.810 And so to a certain extent, that was it was nice to have that over with. 00:25:56.270 --> 00:26:00.110 But I've continued to keep in touch with some of the other Mhmm. 00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:05.225 My cohort, and I've continued to keep in touch with people at Divine Mercy in general. 00:26:05.605 --> 00:26:07.365 And yeah. 00:26:07.365 --> 00:26:11.705 And it's, yeah, it was it was a beautiful program. 00:26:11.765 --> 00:26:16.440 Everything of I I can't say enough about how beautiful the program was. 00:26:16.760 --> 00:26:19.500 It far exceeded my hopes. 00:26:20.360 --> 00:26:23.900 Far exceeded my hopes for what what I would learn. 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.540 I learned way more than I expected to. 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:33.735 I found everything just more beautiful than I expected it to. 00:26:34.835 --> 00:26:36.675 And a couple of more raised hands. 00:26:36.675 --> 00:26:37.955 We got a little bit of time here. 00:26:37.955 --> 00:26:41.975 And I have Sherry had another, question. 00:26:42.115 --> 00:26:42.615 Sherry? 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.180 Or is that or is that still up from before? 00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:50.520 Sorry. 00:26:50.520 --> 00:26:51.260 My bad. 00:26:52.040 --> 00:26:55.180 That's my my teenager's talk here. 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:56.440 Sorry. 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.135 I was wondering how small, or large are the cohorts? 00:27:02.135 --> 00:27:06.555 Are they nice and cozy so it's just a few students, or are they quite large? 00:27:07.495 --> 00:27:11.115 I think my biggest was about 12 to 14. 00:27:13.870 --> 00:27:14.190 Yeah. 00:27:14.190 --> 00:27:17.570 And my smallest were sometimes as small as seven or eight. 00:27:18.670 --> 00:27:19.490 Oh, wow. 00:27:20.350 --> 00:27:20.850 Okay. 00:27:21.150 --> 00:27:21.970 Thank you. 00:27:22.030 --> 00:27:22.770 You're welcome. 00:27:22.990 --> 00:27:25.310 But, you know, Sherry, I'll I'll answer that. 00:27:25.310 --> 00:27:30.815 Generally, we're gonna start with around 25 students in the first class. 00:27:30.875 --> 00:27:33.935 Now everyone has different concentration. 00:27:34.955 --> 00:27:41.295 So, you know, you may, you know, go off of different areas, then meet again sometime. 00:27:41.755 --> 00:27:44.560 But, but, yeah, they're they're they're pretty small. 00:27:44.780 --> 00:27:45.180 Yeah. 00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:45.980 It was different. 00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:52.720 It was the program was slightly different when I went through because I was in the cohort right before they started the concentrations. 00:27:53.020 --> 00:27:53.520 Right. 00:27:53.900 --> 00:27:55.360 But Oh, okay. 00:27:55.420 --> 00:27:59.595 So you got, like, more of a comprehensive view of it rather than a a concentration? 00:28:01.015 --> 00:28:02.955 Most of the program is the same. 00:28:03.415 --> 00:28:03.915 Yep. 00:28:04.055 --> 00:28:09.015 Concentration just has you you get to choose between a couple of classes Yeah. 00:28:09.095 --> 00:28:12.610 Instead of everybody doing exactly the same thing. 00:28:12.610 --> 00:28:13.110 Mhmm. 00:28:13.170 --> 00:28:20.370 But, but it's still most of the courses that people do are are the same ones that I have. 00:28:20.370 --> 00:28:22.710 And, Thomas, this is for you. 00:28:23.490 --> 00:28:28.055 How many credits of I didn't finish my master of education. 00:28:28.195 --> 00:28:30.135 I only couldn't finish my thesis. 00:28:30.195 --> 00:28:35.595 I had an extreme low low before I knew I was bipolar Right. 00:28:36.035 --> 00:28:39.735 And just kind of fell off the school wagon. 00:28:40.195 --> 00:28:48.910 And, how many credits do you think I mean, I have some of those psychology courses in there that are human development. 00:28:49.290 --> 00:28:49.790 Mhmm. 00:28:50.650 --> 00:28:54.990 And so is it possible that some would be accepted? 00:28:55.855 --> 00:28:57.055 You know, always. 00:28:57.055 --> 00:28:59.935 I mean, I I I I get this all the time. 00:28:59.935 --> 00:29:05.935 I have students who, maybe started another program, and we certainly take a look at it. 00:29:05.935 --> 00:29:15.720 But, I mean, in transferring, we will take up to, you know, two classes or six grad hours on average now. 00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:18.740 You know, that could change a little bit. 00:29:18.740 --> 00:29:34.665 But because, see, we're we're we're always working on our curriculum and, you know, to to make it better, you know, in things like, in the human services concentration, we're putting a component of addiction help in it. 00:29:34.885 --> 00:29:35.385 Mhmm. 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:49.820 And we and we have a lot of nice things coming in the future too that, you know, I can't really say, you know, until they're approved from, you know, state to state because, I mean, this being online, we gotta be approved at every state, you know, which we are for this program. 00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.025 So did that answer your question, Sherry? 00:29:53.405 --> 00:29:53.805 Yes. 00:29:53.805 --> 00:29:54.605 And one more. 00:29:54.605 --> 00:29:56.525 How many concentrations do you have? 00:29:56.525 --> 00:29:59.025 Because it's gonna be difficult to pick one. 00:29:59.645 --> 00:30:00.525 Boy, it is. 00:30:00.605 --> 00:30:01.425 Know them all. 00:30:01.965 --> 00:30:05.340 But but but we have one that has a little bit all. 00:30:05.420 --> 00:30:11.200 But, you know, in the concentrations, we we have is, you know, marriage and family. 00:30:11.740 --> 00:30:12.060 Mhmm. 00:30:12.060 --> 00:30:16.240 I'd say that's the most popular one in human services. 00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:23.445 Then we have leadership for those who work in, you know, industry and wanna manage and lead people. 00:30:23.985 --> 00:30:30.565 The pre PhD, which deals with thesis writing, you know, learning how to do your thesis. 00:30:30.945 --> 00:30:42.290 And then self design where you get to pick one elective out of leadership, one out of, human services, and one out of, fam marriage and family. 00:30:43.070 --> 00:30:43.570 Okay. 00:30:44.030 --> 00:30:47.070 And those are the three concentrations or four? 00:30:47.070 --> 00:30:47.790 I mean yeah. 00:30:47.790 --> 00:30:49.250 Well, there's there's five. 00:30:49.565 --> 00:30:49.725 Yeah. 00:30:49.725 --> 00:30:50.445 There's five. 00:30:50.445 --> 00:30:57.265 That would be perfect because, I do plan on I guess, I I really do wanna get my PhD eventually Oh. 00:30:58.445 --> 00:31:01.185 Because I would like like to have a doctor of psychology. 00:31:01.805 --> 00:31:09.010 And and I love to write, so that would be a very good fit for me. 00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:10.690 You're in the right place. 00:31:11.550 --> 00:31:12.930 I'm an English teacher. 00:31:13.310 --> 00:31:15.330 I'm the English teacher of the group. 00:31:16.350 --> 00:31:20.675 So so so, Karen, I mean, I mean Thank you. 00:31:20.755 --> 00:31:22.295 How much writing do you do? 00:31:23.475 --> 00:31:42.890 Every week, you have to write a 300 word, up to 300 word, 150 to 300 word response to the question, and then you have to write two responses to students that are a 150 to 300 words. 00:31:43.510 --> 00:31:49.025 My biggest challenge was staying within the 300 word word count. 00:31:49.025 --> 00:31:50.665 It was always a challenge for me. 00:31:50.665 --> 00:31:52.385 That That wouldn't mind. 00:31:52.745 --> 00:31:53.705 300 words. 00:31:53.705 --> 00:31:58.845 But, anyway, I had to really learn how to how to be concise. 00:31:59.880 --> 00:32:08.860 And then every course has a made a fairly major paper that you're working on throughout that course. 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:17.205 So you're doing each week's writing and then working on a paper for each course. 00:32:17.505 --> 00:32:18.005 Right. 00:32:18.145 --> 00:32:21.685 And a new component to our, it's called Canvas. 00:32:21.825 --> 00:32:31.520 That is the our online platform is that when you write a paper I don't think you had this when you're there, Karen, but, you can send it into them. 00:32:31.580 --> 00:32:36.240 And within twenty four hours, they'll get it back to you with suggestions. 00:32:37.420 --> 00:32:37.820 No. 00:32:37.820 --> 00:32:39.120 That that's new. 00:32:39.580 --> 00:32:39.900 Yeah. 00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:40.960 That that is new. 00:32:41.235 --> 00:32:51.475 And and like you were saying, like, like, the videos and lectures, and these are all, they can all be downloaded to audio points, which is new. 00:32:51.475 --> 00:32:56.060 So you can listen to them on the road or when you're That would have been nice. 00:32:56.060 --> 00:32:58.940 Or you you know, while you're mowing your lawn or what have you. 00:32:58.940 --> 00:33:00.060 That would have been nice. 00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:00.560 Yes. 00:33:00.620 --> 00:33:01.440 I did. 00:33:02.060 --> 00:33:02.560 Yeah. 00:33:02.780 --> 00:33:07.835 I did download all my readings so I could read those offline. 00:33:08.215 --> 00:33:08.695 Okay. 00:33:08.695 --> 00:33:13.355 And now the and what's nice about that is I've been able to keep those files. 00:33:13.895 --> 00:33:17.355 So I have I have all my readings to refer back to. 00:33:17.415 --> 00:33:18.075 That's right. 00:33:18.215 --> 00:33:22.610 And and, you know, I I would rather read something, but, you know, it it takes time. 00:33:22.610 --> 00:33:31.510 You know, part part of multitasking would be to, you know, download it and say you have a, you know, a commute to work, you know, listen to it on the road. 00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:32.390 Yep. 00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:33.830 I mean, that's so. 00:33:34.825 --> 00:33:35.145 Okay. 00:33:35.145 --> 00:33:39.325 And then it looks like, Delia has another question. 00:33:39.705 --> 00:33:40.205 Delia? 00:33:42.425 --> 00:33:44.685 Just need to unmute there. 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:49.660 K. 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:51.180 Hi, Delia. 00:33:53.080 --> 00:33:54.920 I I lowered my hand. 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:56.140 That was from before. 00:33:56.360 --> 00:33:57.020 I'm sorry. 00:33:57.080 --> 00:33:57.580 Okay. 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.120 So you got your question answered. 00:34:00.120 --> 00:34:00.620 Okay? 00:34:01.075 --> 00:34:01.575 Okay. 00:34:01.875 --> 00:34:06.835 And does anybody else have a a question for, Karen? 00:34:06.835 --> 00:34:07.715 Oh, Marie. 00:34:07.715 --> 00:34:08.515 There you go, Marie. 00:34:08.515 --> 00:34:09.395 Let me in. 00:34:09.395 --> 00:34:09.895 Hi. 00:34:10.915 --> 00:34:29.010 I'm not sure if you're seeing some of the questions in the chat, but, I I had a similar one as Gisela of if you take the master's in psychology, would those credits then count if you wanted to go for a master's in counseling? 00:34:30.425 --> 00:34:31.645 18 of them will. 00:34:32.745 --> 00:34:33.145 Okay. 00:34:33.145 --> 00:34:35.805 Not 18 classes, but eighteen credit hours. 00:34:36.425 --> 00:34:36.925 Mhmm. 00:34:37.305 --> 00:34:38.845 What state do you live in? 00:34:40.585 --> 00:34:41.085 Wisconsin. 00:34:41.625 --> 00:34:42.105 Okay. 00:34:42.105 --> 00:34:42.605 Yeah. 00:34:42.665 --> 00:34:55.660 And, you know, the the you know, they they they they could, you know, up to it's actually six classes that would transfer in that are like like. 00:34:55.660 --> 00:35:03.065 I mean, they have when you do credit transfers, they just they have to map out perfectly, but we do, you you know, the six classes on that. 00:35:03.285 --> 00:35:03.365 No. 00:35:03.365 --> 00:35:18.220 I can get the basic material that we for example, probably five fifty, which is helping like, the whole human person perspective, the Catholic Christian meta model, the human person. 00:35:18.220 --> 00:35:21.260 I'm sure everybody does that no matter what program they're in. 00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:21.740 That's right. 00:35:21.740 --> 00:35:22.460 That kind of thing. 00:35:22.460 --> 00:35:29.655 So those courses that are more general to the whole program would fit you know, they would transfer over. 00:35:31.075 --> 00:35:31.395 Okay. 00:35:31.395 --> 00:35:31.875 Thanks. 00:35:31.875 --> 00:35:32.515 I like Karen. 00:35:32.515 --> 00:35:33.895 She knows the class notes. 00:35:36.275 --> 00:35:37.475 So Hi. 00:35:37.475 --> 00:35:39.555 I had the same question, and I'm in Florida. 00:35:39.555 --> 00:35:41.415 I don't know if my state applies. 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:45.640 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:46.780 Was that Delia? 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:47.820 That's Gisela. 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.680 Oh, just oh, I need to go okay. 00:35:50.680 --> 00:35:50.840 Gisela. 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:51.340 Okay. 00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:55.020 You're in Florida and again? 00:35:56.615 --> 00:36:08.135 It's the same question that was asked just now, that if I go for the master's in psychology and then I wanna go for the master's in counseling, would Six classes. 00:36:08.215 --> 00:36:12.620 My escape But would my escape also apply? 00:36:12.620 --> 00:36:18.960 Because I saw in the website that, the master's in counseling does not apply in all states. 00:36:20.620 --> 00:36:21.840 It does not yet. 00:36:22.415 --> 00:36:30.995 And, you know, we are on the midst in the on the horizon of what they call CACREP accreditation. 00:36:31.535 --> 00:36:40.270 And it's kind of like a blanket thing that a lot of states say, well, if you're we have that accreditation, we'll license it. 00:36:40.270 --> 00:36:43.970 But there may be a few states that say, you know, we don't care how you're accredited. 00:36:44.190 --> 00:36:46.910 We want our people to go to our state schools. 00:36:46.910 --> 00:36:48.450 Now I'm not gonna say the states. 00:36:49.935 --> 00:36:53.235 And I'm not gonna say it's Illinois, but, it's probably Illinois. 00:36:55.375 --> 00:36:57.075 So Florida is no problem? 00:36:58.735 --> 00:36:59.235 Florida. 00:36:59.295 --> 00:37:05.890 I mean, when it happens, I'd say they'd be definitely, you know, in that mix. 00:37:05.890 --> 00:37:15.745 So but but, you know, you know, when you a lot of lot of folks, oh, all the glamour of the council, Getting my license and this and that. 00:37:15.745 --> 00:37:17.745 Well, you know, it's not that easy. 00:37:17.745 --> 00:37:19.505 You have to have a three point o average. 00:37:19.505 --> 00:37:27.365 You gotta take the GRE, and it's, you know, three trips to, Washington DC for residency. 00:37:27.585 --> 00:37:33.980 And when you're done, you have nine hundred forty hours of what they call practicums and internships before you can test. 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:35.180 With arts. 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:37.160 Right. 00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:37.480 Yeah. 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.620 But, but, I mean, you know, like I said, it's glamorous. 00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:41.580 I have a license. 00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:50.465 You know, you're it'd be a total career change because if you have the license, you're gonna be, you know, with a group of counselors seeing about 30 people a week. 00:37:51.245 --> 00:37:55.665 Many of them repeat, and your success rate will be less than ten percent. 00:37:56.520 --> 00:37:57.020 Yeah. 00:37:57.240 --> 00:38:00.120 Someone just asked a question, so I'm gonna answer it. 00:38:00.120 --> 00:38:09.900 Someone asked, who just came in late, said, are they does the master of science in psychology lead to licensure? 00:38:10.520 --> 00:38:11.020 No. 00:38:12.115 --> 00:38:13.475 The math, no. 00:38:13.475 --> 00:38:21.335 You'd have to take the counseling program leads to licensing, but not the master of science in psychology. 00:38:21.715 --> 00:38:33.720 But, again, as some people have been asking, in case you didn't hear, six of the courses in the master of science in psychology transfer over to the counseling program. 00:38:34.100 --> 00:38:34.580 Right. 00:38:34.580 --> 00:38:35.080 Right. 00:38:35.460 --> 00:38:38.440 And it, We should be grateful to find out if it's right. 00:38:38.735 --> 00:38:39.055 Yeah. 00:38:39.055 --> 00:38:43.215 And, you know, it's a great way to find out if it's right for you. 00:38:43.215 --> 00:38:43.715 Period. 00:38:44.015 --> 00:39:01.680 So but, everything I've seen on outcomes with our graduates, you know, Karen and other graduates, it's it's worked out pretty well for them just with the masters in science and psychology because, you know, it's a big commitment to do anything for 16. 00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:05.745 I mean and it's gonna change you as a person too. 00:39:05.825 --> 00:39:11.525 I mean, it has to change you as a person to, so you can help, you know, help other people. 00:39:11.985 --> 00:39:16.485 And but it is, it doesn't last forever either. 00:39:17.425 --> 00:39:21.390 It seems like forever when you're doing it, But when it's done, it's done. 00:39:21.390 --> 00:39:31.330 So One of the things I loved about the program was that throughout the courses, unless this has changed, you're working on yourself as well. 00:39:31.805 --> 00:39:49.680 So not only are you learning material how to help other people, but you're also learning what you need to do to become a more effective person in your life in general, in your spiritual life, in your, relationships with other people, and in your work vocations. 00:39:50.540 --> 00:40:01.785 And, every class, you actually also have to write about ways in which you're growing, and it that's been really that I found that really lovely as well. 00:40:02.405 --> 00:40:04.005 Did you have to think about that? 00:40:04.005 --> 00:40:05.805 I mean, somewhat, I mean or you Oh, yeah. 00:40:05.925 --> 00:40:06.425 Yourself? 00:40:06.965 --> 00:40:11.125 Specific specific goals Mhmm. 00:40:11.365 --> 00:40:38.585 Self specific goals in the areas of, yourself, your personal self, and your relationship with God, personal goals relating to your your vocation, your principal vocation, whether it's single life or married life or whatever it is, and then goals specific goals relating to your whatever your work or service is. 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.360 And it was very helpful. 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:47.900 It was good to think about specific things that I could do to grow and become more effective in each of those areas. 00:40:48.520 --> 00:40:48.840 Right. 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:57.385 And that that's, you know, well well said, Karen, because it's, you know you know, everyone here I mean, you have to have a bachelor's degree. 00:40:57.525 --> 00:41:02.745 It doesn't matter what it's in, but it has to be a 2.5 or better grade average. 00:41:02.965 --> 00:41:03.465 Okay? 00:41:03.925 --> 00:41:09.810 And that was a big step for everybody to do that, and you should take great pride in completing it. 00:41:09.810 --> 00:41:21.685 But when you go to the next level, okay, you you're not gonna believe the confidence it gives you and the knowledge, you know, to help you go forward, you know, within your life in that. 00:41:21.825 --> 00:41:26.485 And and in this degree, you know, it's it's helping helping people helping people. 00:41:26.705 --> 00:41:33.605 And Christina had a question, and that is, can you specialize in marriage and family in this program? 00:41:33.745 --> 00:41:34.245 Yes. 00:41:34.385 --> 00:41:35.045 You can. 00:41:35.330 --> 00:41:39.750 You can specialize in marriage and family with the master of science in psychology. 00:41:45.010 --> 00:41:45.890 That is correct. 00:41:45.890 --> 00:41:55.365 That is one of the the, one of our top concentrations because that is it's a big concern and great capstone topic too. 00:41:55.825 --> 00:41:56.325 Yeah. 00:41:56.465 --> 00:42:00.485 And now someone is asked a different careers in this degree. 00:42:00.865 --> 00:42:02.085 Oh, there's many. 00:42:02.465 --> 00:42:08.110 And, you know, always the question is, are you trying to enhance your your present career or change careers? 00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:11.630 Well, you know, changing careers is a big step too. 00:42:11.630 --> 00:42:13.790 But, you know, with more confidence, you can do that. 00:42:13.790 --> 00:42:23.785 But, you know, you know, we, you know, we help students with that to whether they're gonna work for the, like, the government or for nonprofits, you know, just to name a few. 00:42:23.925 --> 00:42:29.865 And, you you should never say that you nonprofits don't pay well because they can. 00:42:31.845 --> 00:42:32.345 Yeah. 00:42:35.630 --> 00:42:36.270 And let's see. 00:42:36.270 --> 00:42:37.650 Any other thing here? 00:42:38.590 --> 00:42:39.890 Oh, Sarah Graff. 00:42:40.110 --> 00:42:42.690 When do you have to declare your specialty? 00:42:42.910 --> 00:42:48.925 Well, you should bear you you should have a good idea, before you start. 00:42:48.925 --> 00:43:06.130 But, really, after your second semester, which is at, you know, after your first four months, you should really decide, you know, on what what what your what your concentration is gonna be at that point Because your electives and your scheduling will depend upon that. 00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:15.425 So and Okay. 00:43:15.425 --> 00:43:15.985 Anything else? 00:43:15.985 --> 00:43:16.485 What? 00:43:19.345 --> 00:43:23.425 God, Karen, what a great, great time, and we thank you. 00:43:23.425 --> 00:43:26.405 I'm not even gonna go go I'm not even gonna go through my slideshow. 00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:28.860 I do have one more question. 00:43:29.080 --> 00:43:30.440 I'm sorry for bugging y'all. 00:43:30.520 --> 00:43:30.760 Sure. 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.500 That's okay. 00:43:33.080 --> 00:43:50.265 Is it possible after, like, our master's, master of science in psychology is finished, I also have always wanted to learn everything about divinity. 00:43:51.125 --> 00:43:53.065 I want to learn theology. 00:43:53.525 --> 00:44:07.970 Do you have those electives there, or is that a whole separate program that I would have to go into, like, say, get a PhD in, or another master's, of theology? 00:44:10.315 --> 00:44:14.795 I I I can answer that, here in Sarah. 00:44:14.795 --> 00:44:19.355 The, you know, in our we we're a graduate school. 00:44:19.355 --> 00:44:20.895 All we do is psychology. 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:29.900 And and within the psychology, there are some philosophy courses, but we infuse theology. 00:44:30.200 --> 00:44:34.545 So we don't have any, like, religion one zero one and that sort of thing. 00:44:34.625 --> 00:44:38.245 And we may make reference to the saints and other things like that. 00:44:38.385 --> 00:44:46.565 However, though, I mean, we have quite a few that's already in the program that have, their their their masters in theology. 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.680 And then they're they're teaching it usually at at a Catholic or Christian school too. 00:44:51.680 --> 00:44:56.400 So but, and, of course, you know, the priests too. 00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:03.445 They of course, that's what they majored in theology, but, it's, you know, it's a it's a great area. 00:45:03.985 --> 00:45:10.885 But most folks say I'd rather do the, psychology first than do your theology. 00:45:11.825 --> 00:45:17.550 I was gonna say, yeah, I'm doing it a little backwards or or as my nana would say, bath backwards. 00:45:18.410 --> 00:45:19.150 That's right. 00:45:19.450 --> 00:45:19.950 Hey. 00:45:20.410 --> 00:45:22.190 You you stole my word there, Sharice. 00:45:24.410 --> 00:45:25.610 And don't so much. 00:45:25.610 --> 00:45:26.370 I Delete it. 00:45:26.410 --> 00:45:27.310 I have to go. 00:45:27.505 --> 00:45:27.825 Okay. 00:45:27.825 --> 00:45:29.505 And, well, I'm about ready to go too. 00:45:29.505 --> 00:45:39.345 So and, I think this I'm gonna declare this the best webinar ever with Karen Hamlin, our good friend from, from the North on that. 00:45:39.345 --> 00:45:46.560 And, and what I will do is I'll I'll touch base with everybody to see if I can answer any more questions individually. 00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:51.180 You know, wish we had more time, and, and we we'll go from there. 00:45:51.180 --> 00:45:52.720 So Okay. 00:45:53.180 --> 00:45:55.360 And, Delia? 00:45:56.245 --> 00:45:57.285 Yes, sir. 00:45:57.285 --> 00:45:58.665 Did you have another question? 00:45:59.125 --> 00:45:59.945 No, sir. 00:46:00.245 --> 00:46:00.745 Okay. 00:46:00.965 --> 00:46:01.605 Very good. 00:46:01.605 --> 00:46:05.445 So and, and I and I thank you for, you you know, staying on. 00:46:05.445 --> 00:46:08.025 And Thank you both. 00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:23.685 And and what I do is if I get with you, you know, we talk more about the program, concentrations, scholarships, you know, how to afford school to, and then the, what I call the acceptance requirements on it. 00:46:23.685 --> 00:46:27.285 And then but, you know, ultimately, it's always up to you. 00:46:27.285 --> 00:46:36.105 And, you know, you know, and the statistic is in The United States, less than 14% of the population has a master's degree. 00:46:38.500 --> 00:46:41.320 And because it's, you know, it's a bigger commitment. 00:46:41.620 --> 00:46:49.185 And but those who get their master's degrees or or even higher, you know, it's gonna have great payoffs for you. 00:46:49.265 --> 00:46:51.285 With number one, your knowledge and your confidence. 00:46:51.345 --> 00:46:55.845 And, you know, if you work on that, you know, your your your your money cuts. 00:46:56.465 --> 00:46:56.865 Okay? 00:46:56.865 --> 00:46:58.165 Well, thank you, everybody. 00:46:58.465 --> 00:46:59.925 What is the Thank you both. 00:47:00.225 --> 00:47:01.045 You're welcome. 00:47:01.265 --> 00:47:01.765 Alright. 00:47:01.985 --> 00:47:02.805 Thank you. 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:03.940 Thank you. 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:07.440 And you all take care and God bless you. 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:08.880 God God bless you too. 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:12.020 And hope hope to, speak with y'all soon. 00:47:12.720 --> 00:47:13.120 Yes. 00:47:13.120 --> 00:47:15.380 And thank you, miss Karen Hammond. 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:16.900 You're most welcome. 00:47:17.575 --> 00:47:18.075 Okay. 00:47:18.295 --> 00:47:18.795 Welcome. 00:47:19.015 --> 00:47:19.495 Alright. 00:47:19.495 --> 00:47:20.475 Well, thank you. 00:47:20.695 --> 00:47:21.195 Okay. 00:47:21.255 --> 00:47:21.995 Bye bye.