Skyfall 2024: Biblical Cosmology by Matt Long
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[00:00:01] Well, I tell you what, I sometimes I cannot believe that it's been since 2018.
[00:00:10] We've been doing this stuff.
[00:00:11] Of course, we did take a couple of years.
[00:00:13] One year we did a deliverance seminar and then we missed one year altogether.
[00:00:17] But 2018, it's been a long time.
[00:00:19] But Matt and I met in Raleigh during the Flat Earth, the first Flat Earth International
[00:00:24] Conference in 2017, and Matt, it's just been a blessing in my life.
[00:00:30] He stood with me in all that battle during that time I was like, I knew I liked this guy.
[00:00:37] That was back when he was through.
[00:00:42] With the metal cards, anybody ever get, yeah, we had the metal card.
[00:00:47] But Matt, I love you brother and appreciate your stand for the Lord and the Word of God
[00:00:53] and we love having you.
[00:00:55] Thanks for coming.
[00:01:05] Well through him all things were made.
[00:01:10] Through who?
[00:01:11] I wonder.
[00:01:12] Well, according to John 1, Hebrews 1, and Colossians 1, Jesus is the Maker of all things, including
[00:01:21] that right there.
[00:01:24] And according to Romans 1, we can get to know the Creator through the creation.
[00:01:30] So if that's the case, if we can get to know the Creator through the creation, should
[00:01:35] we not study and appreciate what that creation is according to Scripture?
[00:01:41] And when Scripture and science diverge, should we embrace science and reject the Bible or
[00:01:50] should we embrace the Bible and reject science?
[00:01:52] Because you'll say, well Matt, the Bible's not a science book and that's true and it's
[00:01:56] actually a good thing because science books were written by men attempting to describe
[00:02:02] the things of God while at the same time removing God from the equation.
[00:02:07] And the Bible doesn't function on such illogic.
[00:02:10] The Bible has never issued a second, third, or fourth edition because the Bible is ultimate
[00:02:16] truth and ultimate truth cannot change.
[00:02:18] It doesn't bend.
[00:02:19] It doesn't flex based on scientific trends or theories of the day, right?
[00:02:27] So I guess I want to thank Dean and Nancy for having me back, okay?
[00:02:34] This is one of the only streaks I still have alive in my life as I get older, is that I've
[00:02:40] spoken at every single skyfall.
[00:02:42] And honestly, I have two goals in my life for the remainder of my life.
[00:02:46] One is I live in a neighborhood with no, they have no shoulders on the road, so the mailbox
[00:02:50] is like jump out at you as you're driving.
[00:02:52] And so I want to never hit a mailbox before I go to the grave and I never want to be
[00:02:57] the subject of a Dean Otol sermon.
[00:03:01] That is my goal.
[00:03:05] So far so good.
[00:03:09] Now I like telling jokes to get started, kind of loosen me up, but I thought this time I
[00:03:14] would just show you guys a joke real quick, right there.
[00:03:22] Thanks.
[00:03:28] So I was trying to think what to speak about this time and I was speaking in Boston a couple
[00:03:36] weeks ago and I had an older lady look me in the eyes, point at me from the crowd
[00:03:41] and say, this is what you're supposed to talk about.
[00:03:44] Do not waver.
[00:03:45] And of course, the theme of skyfall was stay the course.
[00:03:48] So I thought it was fitting that I should speak on biblical cosmology and of course Dean
[00:03:55] was no help.
[00:03:56] He's just talk about what the Lord leads brother, you know, when I asked someone to
[00:04:00] speak on.
[00:04:01] So, so yeah, I just waited for the Lord to speak and here we are at biblical cosmology.
[00:04:08] So I obviously have a book on the subject.
[00:04:10] It's called The House That Jesus Built and that is about the biblical shape of the
[00:04:15] earth, an intelligent alternative design.
[00:04:19] If you guys have read my first version of that book, it's a lot of the same stuff is
[00:04:24] in here.
[00:04:25] This is a little bit reorganized in a way for someone who's never heard of the subject,
[00:04:30] like didn't even know it was a controversy, could take a look at it and really get something
[00:04:34] out of it.
[00:04:35] I had meant to bring some, but I mean, I only got here with like 25% of my children.
[00:04:40] So the idea to also bring books along was just a little bit too much for me to bear.
[00:04:46] In fact, I saw Kevin in the lobby this morning in the hotel.
[00:04:49] He's like, Hey, can I get a ride, you know, over to the place?
[00:04:52] I was like, look, we're being down here at nine.
[00:04:55] Make sure you get here at 857 so I don't accidentally leave without you.
[00:04:58] So it's just, you got to, you got to work those systems in and, but yeah, if you
[00:05:04] go to mattlongbook.com, that's where you can find that a couple of the things that
[00:05:08] we're working on that are really cool.
[00:05:09] If you guys have heard of dome shot, it's the official token of the flat earth and
[00:05:14] the official currency of the Fe clock app from Dave Weiss.
[00:05:18] We've done some really cool stuff.
[00:05:19] We air dropped like we actually did 33 million on 9 11 to like 1400 users and
[00:05:27] it's actually done about 100 X since the launch.
[00:05:29] So that's pretty exciting.
[00:05:31] Here's a, here's a chart of it versus NASA's last launch here.
[00:05:37] So you can see the charts going up and, and NASA is obviously coming,
[00:05:42] coming back down here, something that's really cool.
[00:05:44] I don't know if you're into crypto or not, but if you are,
[00:05:47] it's just something fun to get into.
[00:05:48] So the funny thing is we actually, we use it.
[00:05:52] So when people refer the app, we pay them in dome.
[00:05:55] It's called dome shot dome for short.
[00:05:57] And we're actually at the value that it is now.
[00:06:00] We're actually paying people every time they refer the app or paying them about
[00:06:03] the $8 equivalent US dollars and the app costs three bucks.
[00:06:08] So it's kind of funny.
[00:06:09] We want to look back 10 years from now and
[00:06:11] realize we were paying people like a thousand bucks a referral for a $3 app.
[00:06:15] But it's the, it's the first crypto in the history of the world to monetize
[00:06:19] the spreading of God's true creation.
[00:06:22] So I think it's pretty cool.
[00:06:23] So if you go to dome shot.io, you can learn everything you need to learn
[00:06:27] about it there.
[00:06:28] I've also gotten into the pickle ball space again.
[00:06:32] Not that kind of space, but the pickle ball space.
[00:06:34] This is actually the only pickle ball pad on the history of the world that was
[00:06:37] designed with a non, a flat non-rotating earth in mind.
[00:06:40] So you got any pickle ball players out there?
[00:06:42] This is the only one out there, okay?
[00:06:46] So if you go to cleaver.pro and scroll all the way down to the bottom and
[00:06:51] click a little, there's a little FE button down there.
[00:06:53] And there's actually a flat earth version.
[00:06:56] That's it's got a flat earth map on it.
[00:06:59] And that's actually the official paddle of the flat earth.
[00:07:02] It's amazing what you can claim when no one else wants to claim it.
[00:07:05] So, but I also do like real estate development as my official like line of
[00:07:13] business.
[00:07:13] And if you go to sixture.com with an S, you can see all these things that I do.
[00:07:18] And if there are any synergies there, like anyone wants to, you know,
[00:07:21] do some business, I'd ret rather do with a Christian flat earther, of course.
[00:07:25] So you guys just let me know.
[00:07:27] So what is biblical cosmology or intelligent alternative design?
[00:07:32] Well, we've already kind of ripped the band-aid off, right?
[00:07:36] It's this topic of flat earth.
[00:07:37] That right there, that is an official NASA photo of what flat earthers believe
[00:07:42] right there, if you guys can believe that.
[00:07:44] Actually, that's a drawing from Robert Paint Tank Moore right there.
[00:07:48] It's from my book.
[00:07:50] Robert did the illustrations for me.
[00:07:53] But obviously, yes, nobody believes this.
[00:07:56] An actual flat earther or someone who believes in biblical cosmology does not
[00:08:00] believe this.
[00:08:01] In fact, we don't believe in a solar system at all, right?
[00:08:04] We believe in what's called an earth system,
[00:08:08] something a little bit more like this.
[00:08:11] So if you were to take the globe and squash it, basically stick your finger
[00:08:15] on the North Pole, squash it down to where the North Pole is now
[00:08:19] the center of our creation.
[00:08:22] Antarctica is no longer a continent at the bottom of the globe, but rather
[00:08:25] a continental ice shelf that holds the waters in and supports the dome above.
[00:08:31] So to us, this is all there is.
[00:08:33] This is the earth system.
[00:08:36] And so the sun, moon, and stars are not distant planets and galaxies far,
[00:08:42] far away.
[00:08:42] They're actually smaller, closer, and also located inside our system.
[00:08:48] I believe that this version is the only version that can fulfill all 200-plus
[00:08:53] verses in the Bible that speak of the Hebrew cosmology,
[00:08:59] what the Hebrews believed.
[00:09:01] So what I want to establish first is why this is important so that the Baptists
[00:09:06] don't come after me for no reason here.
[00:09:11] But as Christians, I think we need to respect the fact
[00:09:15] that different things lead different people to Christ.
[00:09:18] For me, when, and I usually say, the only thing worse than Christians
[00:09:24] when trying to spread flat earth is pastors, right?
[00:09:27] Because they actually get in the way quite a bit of this movement
[00:09:32] that I believe is bringing people to Christ.
[00:09:34] And like I mentioned, different things bring different people to Christ.
[00:09:38] For me, when I was in my 20s, someone coming up to me and saying,
[00:09:41] hey, man, Jesus loves you, would not have done anything for me.
[00:09:45] In fact, I'm sure it happened.
[00:09:46] But to me, Jesus wasn't real.
[00:09:50] I had to come at it from a different viewpoint.
[00:09:53] And embarrassingly, I just needed a little bit more,
[00:09:56] like, I don't know, say, proof.
[00:10:00] But I did need to know that the Bible was something
[00:10:04] that you could believe without being an idiot.
[00:10:06] That's literally what I thought.
[00:10:07] I was like, oh, you believe the Bible?
[00:10:08] Oh, well, you need a mental crutch.
[00:10:10] That's what I thought.
[00:10:12] And after reading the case for Christ and studying many other things,
[00:10:16] I found out like, oh, like, if you know this stuff,
[00:10:19] you actually can't be a wise person and not believe the Bible
[00:10:22] is what I came to.
[00:10:24] Because my university-level physics, astronomy, and geology classes
[00:10:27] all told me how this place got here without the help
[00:10:30] of an all-loving, all-powerful creator.
[00:10:33] And I also didn't realize that there was a difference
[00:10:36] between evidence and worldview.
[00:10:39] Evidence is numbers, readings, measurements.
[00:10:42] It's unbiased information from which we can speculate and draw
[00:10:47] conclusions.
[00:10:48] And worldview is an interpretation of that evidence.
[00:10:52] And everything you hear from a college professor or see
[00:10:56] on the Discovery Channel is something
[00:10:58] that is an interpretation of evidence.
[00:11:01] A lot of people think they're listening to unbiasedness
[00:11:04] when they're watching those shows.
[00:11:06] But actually, they're listening to something
[00:11:09] that has a very purposeful worldview.
[00:11:12] And that worldview, it's the scientific worldview.
[00:11:15] And like I said, it's the worldview
[00:11:16] that nothing exploded, created everything
[00:11:18] without the help of an all-loving, all-powerful
[00:11:21] creator.
[00:11:22] I want to see if the volume works here.
[00:11:24] So if that's how you want to invoke your evidence for God,
[00:11:29] then God is an ever-receiving pocket of scientific ignorance
[00:11:35] that's getting smaller and smaller and smaller
[00:11:38] as time moves on.
[00:11:40] So he's obviously not one of the 70
[00:11:42] that we talked about earlier, right?
[00:11:45] But that is the worldview right there.
[00:11:49] The amazing thing is that every atom in your body
[00:11:52] came from a star that exploded.
[00:11:54] And the atoms in your left hand probably
[00:11:56] came from a different star than your right hand.
[00:11:58] It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics.
[00:12:02] You are all stardust.
[00:12:03] You couldn't be here if stars hadn't exploded,
[00:12:05] because the elements, the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron,
[00:12:08] all the things that matter for evolution
[00:12:11] weren't created at the beginning of time.
[00:12:13] They're created in the nuclear furnaces of stars.
[00:12:14] And the only way they can get into your body
[00:12:17] is if the stars were kind enough to explode.
[00:12:19] So forget Jesus.
[00:12:20] The stars died so that you could be here today.
[00:12:24] Yeah, really funny, huh?
[00:12:25] So when the two disagree, which mindset are we going to embrace?
[00:12:31] Which worldview are we going to embrace?
[00:12:34] Are we going to embrace the worldview that's openly
[00:12:36] anti-God?
[00:12:38] Because that's the one that writes all the textbooks.
[00:12:42] That's the one in universities.
[00:12:44] That's the one in museums.
[00:12:45] That's the one on the Discovery Channel.
[00:12:47] Again, that nothing exploded and created everything
[00:12:50] without the help of an all-loving, all-powerful creator.
[00:12:54] I just don't know why we're so anxious
[00:12:57] to embrace such a worldview.
[00:13:01] People like Answers in Genesis
[00:13:02] and Institute for Creation Research,
[00:13:04] they want to be accepted by these people.
[00:13:07] So I want to go into now about how there is a difference
[00:13:10] between what we're shown and what we experience.
[00:13:14] Now, this is not a photo right here.
[00:13:16] I don't know if you guys can tell.
[00:13:18] You guys sound like a group that probably know
[00:13:20] the difference between a photo and an image.
[00:13:22] And I'm going to go into why this is not
[00:13:26] an evidence-based conversation,
[00:13:28] and it's because of programming.
[00:13:30] If it wasn't for programming,
[00:13:32] you could probably sit down with someone
[00:13:34] and teach them about biblical cosmology,
[00:13:38] without anger, without, you know, straw man arguments
[00:13:42] and things like that.
[00:13:44] If you could sit down with someone and say
[00:13:46] two plus two equals four,
[00:13:48] and they've been taught all their life
[00:13:50] from when they were little that two plus two equals five,
[00:13:54] you're not going to be able to rationalize with that person.
[00:13:57] It doesn't matter how clear the evidence is.
[00:14:00] So this is what we're shown.
[00:14:01] And actually, let me go into photos versus images, right?
[00:14:04] So a photo is a capture of reality.
[00:14:07] And an image is a representation of reality.
[00:14:11] A photo is when you capture real life
[00:14:13] and you do nothing to it.
[00:14:14] An image is when you modify a photo.
[00:14:18] It's also when you create a picture.
[00:14:21] That's what an image is.
[00:14:24] So right here, these are the bones
[00:14:28] that the scientists found, okay?
[00:14:30] So this is what we experience.
[00:14:32] And this is what they drew, all right?
[00:14:35] This is an artist rendering or an artist conception
[00:14:40] of the missing link between men and apes, right?
[00:14:44] So again, this is what they found,
[00:14:47] and this is what they drew.
[00:14:48] This is the artist conception right there.
[00:14:52] This right here is the Milky Way galaxy, right?
[00:14:56] This is what we're shown.
[00:14:57] The only problem is when you scroll down to the bottom
[00:15:00] and the little tiny print,
[00:15:01] you can also see that it says an artist conception
[00:15:04] of the Milky Way galaxy right there.
[00:15:07] And it gives the artist name, right?
[00:15:10] What people don't realize is that this is also an image
[00:15:15] or a drawing or a creation with a worldview behind it.
[00:15:19] Here's what we're shown.
[00:15:21] We're shown that the sun travels through the galaxy
[00:15:25] at 450,000 miles an hour,
[00:15:28] and that the planets revolve around that sun.
[00:15:31] The earth supposedly goes at, you know,
[00:15:33] 66,000 miles an hour.
[00:15:35] The earth is also spinning at 1,000 miles an hour,
[00:15:37] and the universe is supposedly expanding
[00:15:40] at over a million miles an hour.
[00:15:43] But what we experience is a flat non-rotating earth.
[00:15:47] And this is Mickelson and Morley,
[00:15:49] the experiment in the late 1800s
[00:15:52] that proved through the use of optics
[00:15:56] by bouncing light around right angles
[00:15:58] in different directions
[00:15:59] that the earth is not spinning 1,000 miles an hour
[00:16:03] at the equator.
[00:16:04] It's interesting that Albert Einstein has a quote
[00:16:07] that says, no amount of experimentation can prove me right.
[00:16:10] He's a theoretical physicist, all right?
[00:16:11] No amount of experimentation can prove me right,
[00:16:14] but a single experiment can prove me wrong.
[00:16:16] It is interesting that after this experiment,
[00:16:19] he's like, well, he's quoted as saying,
[00:16:21] I don't think it's possible to prove
[00:16:23] the motion of the earth through any optical experiment.
[00:16:28] He then had to change some of his theories because of it.
[00:16:31] Yet the Bible says in 1 Chronicles 16.30,
[00:16:34] Psalm 93.1, Psalm 96.10, and Psalm 104.5,
[00:16:39] that the earth is fixed and immovable.
[00:16:42] So two very different things.
[00:16:43] Remember, science and scripture,
[00:16:45] they're not just diverging,
[00:16:46] they're describing complete opposites.
[00:16:50] So we're told we live on a spinning ball, right?
[00:16:54] The two characteristics of a spinning ball
[00:16:58] are motion and curvature.
[00:17:00] And we just talked about,
[00:17:02] cannot prove that the earth is spinning.
[00:17:04] In fact, we experience that it's fixed and immovable.
[00:17:09] So this is the Chicago skyline.
[00:17:13] A lot of people have heard of this.
[00:17:14] 50 miles across Lake Michigan,
[00:17:16] you can clearly see the skyline there of the city.
[00:17:20] Yet according to curvature math,
[00:17:22] on a ball 24,900 miles in circumference,
[00:17:26] you shouldn't be able to see
[00:17:26] a single building across Lake Michigan.
[00:17:30] So what we're shown is a ball
[00:17:34] that says we shouldn't be able to see that,
[00:17:35] yet what we experience is being able to clearly see it.
[00:17:40] I guess we can't trust our senses.
[00:17:41] That's what they want us to believe.
[00:17:43] So there's the math there, okay?
[00:17:46] It comes out to eight inches per mile squared, right?
[00:17:49] And because of that square,
[00:17:50] it exponentially increases
[00:17:52] as you go further and further away.
[00:17:53] One mile is eight inches,
[00:17:54] two miles 32 inches,
[00:17:56] all the way down to 30 miles is 7,200 inches.
[00:18:01] And again, according to that math,
[00:18:05] over 50 miles across Lake Michigan,
[00:18:07] you should be hiding about 2,000 feet
[00:18:10] of vertical curvature.
[00:18:12] And there's not a single building in Chicago
[00:18:15] that's over 2,000 feet tall.
[00:18:17] Yet you can see them all.
[00:18:20] This right here is a world record photograph.
[00:18:24] This is some guy standing on a mountain in Spain
[00:18:28] and taking a picture of a mountain in France, okay?
[00:18:33] This is 275 miles away.
[00:18:37] And according to the formula
[00:18:39] that we just talked about,
[00:18:40] there is 10 miles of vertical curvature,
[00:18:43] or there should be 10 miles of vertical distance hiding
[00:18:48] from where the guy's taking a picture
[00:18:50] to what he's taking a picture of.
[00:18:52] Now, because he's elevated in Spain,
[00:18:55] you have to adjust for that math
[00:18:57] and it comes out to about five miles of curvature.
[00:18:59] Now, the tallest mountains that we know about
[00:19:02] is Mount Everest.
[00:19:03] It's roughly five miles tall.
[00:19:05] This is not Mount Everest.
[00:19:07] And so even if Mount Everest was on the other side,
[00:19:09] you should only be able to see the very tip,
[00:19:11] yet you can see the entire range there.
[00:19:17] And of course, the Bible talks about
[00:19:18] the face of the earth insinuating flat.
[00:19:21] When the devil takes Jesus up onto the high mountain,
[00:19:24] shows him all the kingdoms of the world,
[00:19:26] that is insinuating flat
[00:19:28] because you wouldn't be able to see
[00:19:29] all the kingdoms of the world on a ball.
[00:19:31] When Jesus comes back, all the world will see.
[00:19:35] That would not be possible on a ball.
[00:19:38] You have Isaiah and Isaiah 40, 22
[00:19:40] talking about the circle of the earth, okay?
[00:19:43] A circle is flat.
[00:19:45] Isaiah uses a Hebrew word for ball in Isaiah 22, 18,
[00:19:49] but that's when he's talking about
[00:19:50] something being tossed like a ball.
[00:19:52] When he talks about the shape of the earth,
[00:19:54] he uses the word circle very specifically
[00:19:57] and a circle is not the same thing as a ball.
[00:20:00] That's why there's two different words for it.
[00:20:03] Just like a pizza, pizza can be round and flat.
[00:20:06] And Job 26, seven, it says that
[00:20:10] the earth hangs on nothing, okay?
[00:20:11] That's not a ball floating in space.
[00:20:14] It's talking about the earth,
[00:20:15] like the actual ground is not hanging on anything.
[00:20:18] It's set on pillars and on a foundation
[00:20:20] just like it talks about later in Job.
[00:20:23] And then of course, the New Jerusalem,
[00:20:25] which comes down in Revelation,
[00:20:27] the dimensions of the New Jerusalem,
[00:20:30] if we were on a ball,
[00:20:31] would require a hump in the middle,
[00:20:34] the size of 22 Mount Everest if you do the math, okay?
[00:20:39] So the Bible also talks about a world with no curvature.
[00:20:45] But again, here's what we're shown, right?
[00:20:48] We're shown an earth floating in space
[00:20:52] with an atmosphere with nothing between that atmosphere
[00:20:56] and the negative vacuum of space.
[00:20:58] This is the negative 12 Tor vacuum
[00:21:01] that would literally suck your eyeballs out of your head
[00:21:03] if you jumped out of a spaceship, okay?
[00:21:06] Negative 12 is so insanely powerful.
[00:21:11] The strongest vacuum they can create on earth
[00:21:14] is like negative six.
[00:21:15] And when they do that,
[00:21:16] like the metal walls are bending in, okay?
[00:21:20] And I was actually at my last talk in Boston.
[00:21:23] There was a guy there who worked
[00:21:24] on that kind of technology.
[00:21:26] And he, before he became a flat earther,
[00:21:29] he was basically a technician
[00:21:32] working with these engineers at NASA and some other groups.
[00:21:35] They're working on satellite technology.
[00:21:36] They're working on spacesuit technology.
[00:21:39] And he kept asking questions like,
[00:21:42] how do we just use like this little like silicone sealant
[00:21:45] on the astronauts suits?
[00:21:47] Like, how does that stand up to the pressure
[00:21:50] that's creating this vacuum
[00:21:53] that's bending like metal this thick?
[00:21:55] Like, how does that work?
[00:21:57] And he couldn't get any answers.
[00:21:58] And this was before he even knew this was a thing.
[00:22:00] And he's like, how do they only use
[00:22:02] like quarter inch thick rivets on these items?
[00:22:06] And he wasn't getting good answers.
[00:22:09] And so, and now he's a flat earther.
[00:22:11] And so it's quite an interesting perspective.
[00:22:16] Yeah.
[00:22:17] But the Bible, again, talks about the opposite.
[00:22:22] Science says that there's nothing between us
[00:22:24] and the outside realm.
[00:22:26] The Bible says that there's a firmament.
[00:22:28] And in fact, science tells us that
[00:22:31] we're up against a negative vacuum
[00:22:33] that is trying to suck things off the planet.
[00:22:36] The Bible says that there's waters above
[00:22:38] bearing weight down on us.
[00:22:40] So again, the exact opposite.
[00:22:42] It says, it talks about the firmament created on day two.
[00:22:45] It says that it is a solid molten looking glass
[00:22:50] in Job 37, 18.
[00:22:52] It's called the terrible crystal in Ezekiel 1 22.
[00:22:56] It's called the sea of glass that God walks on
[00:22:59] in Revelation 15 two.
[00:23:01] It's described as, the Bible describes
[00:23:04] the waters above the skies.
[00:23:06] That's David in Psalm 148 four.
[00:23:08] And that's 1500 years after the flood.
[00:23:10] So the canopy theory that the water,
[00:23:12] that the firmament was a canopy
[00:23:15] and collapsed during the flood
[00:23:16] and the waters came down and flooded the earth
[00:23:18] is not possible.
[00:23:20] And it also says that they're established forever.
[00:23:23] So that's also a problem for that theory.
[00:23:26] And Psalm 19 one, if we just wanna talk logic
[00:23:29] for a second, Psalm 19 one says that the firmament
[00:23:31] shows God's handiwork, which is interesting
[00:23:34] because if I was a craftsman
[00:23:37] and let's say we had an issue with those doors back there
[00:23:41] and they called Matt and they said,
[00:23:44] Matt, we need you to replace those doors.
[00:23:46] And I said, sure, no problem.
[00:23:47] So I come in, I replace the doors,
[00:23:49] they function properly.
[00:23:50] And now I'm up on stage and I wanna show you guys
[00:23:53] like, hey guys, I'm a pretty awesome craftsman.
[00:23:56] And so I go and I open the doors
[00:23:58] and I show you like the empty space between
[00:24:01] because a lot of Bible translations now
[00:24:03] call it a great expanse.
[00:24:05] And that this great expanse somehow shows God's handiwork,
[00:24:08] this great expanse of empty space.
[00:24:10] So if I were to open those doors and be like,
[00:24:12] look, look at all this,
[00:24:16] that's not a display of my craftsmanship,
[00:24:18] a display of my craftsmanship of me to go knock,
[00:24:20] look how solid these doors are, right?
[00:24:22] That I built, like they're not going anywhere.
[00:24:24] And so the firmament, according to Psalm 19 one,
[00:24:26] showing God's handiwork
[00:24:28] has got to be something solid,
[00:24:30] just from a logical perspective.
[00:24:34] Something else that's the opposite, right?
[00:24:35] We're told that the moon reflects the light of the sun, okay?
[00:24:38] And the light of the sun is warm, right?
[00:24:41] When you're outside on a hot summer day
[00:24:43] or a hot fall day, I guess,
[00:24:46] when you're outside and it's hot and you go in the shade,
[00:24:50] it's now cooler, right?
[00:24:52] But at night, when you're out in the moonlight
[00:24:56] and you're cold, excuse me, if you were hot,
[00:25:01] excuse me, if you were cold,
[00:25:02] if you go in the shade, it's now warmer.
[00:25:04] The moonlight is actually the opposite of sunlight.
[00:25:08] The moonlight is cold and it's measurably cold.
[00:25:10] There's been a bunch of people, including myself,
[00:25:12] that can take a thermometer
[00:25:14] and take a shot of the grass, for example,
[00:25:17] that's in the moonlight and the grass that's in the shade
[00:25:20] and the light that's in the shade
[00:25:21] is actually warmer than the light,
[00:25:23] or yeah, than the light that's in the sun.
[00:25:25] It's hard to think in opposites here.
[00:25:28] That's why I can't be a glower
[00:25:29] because I got to think in opposites.
[00:25:32] And what did Jesus say?
[00:25:33] In Matthew 24, 29, Jesus said that there'll be a day
[00:25:37] that will come and the moon will cease to give her light.
[00:25:41] So there's two clues.
[00:25:42] One, he says the moon gives its own light,
[00:25:44] but he also calls it a she.
[00:25:46] And in that culture, it was just,
[00:25:49] it was thought of that the sun was a he
[00:25:52] and the moon was a she, insinuating the opposite.
[00:25:56] And obviously it's clearly a light bulb.
[00:25:57] Like when my daughter was five, I asked her,
[00:26:01] I showed her a picture of the astronauts
[00:26:03] walking on the dull gray dust ball.
[00:26:06] And I showed her a picture of that.
[00:26:08] And I was like, do you think those two are the same things?
[00:26:10] And she's like, no.
[00:26:11] And I said, right, so this is obviously like a light.
[00:26:14] She's like, yeah.
[00:26:15] And then she goes, so where are those guys standing?
[00:26:18] I was like, well, I don't know.
[00:26:21] Not sure.
[00:26:24] Right.
[00:26:26] We're also told that the sun is a flaming fireball 93
[00:26:29] million miles away.
[00:26:31] We're told that seasons are caused
[00:26:34] by the tilt of the Earth, right?
[00:26:36] That 23.4 degree tilt, that when taken out of 90 degrees
[00:26:39] is 66.6.
[00:26:41] Yeah, we're told that because of our tilt,
[00:26:43] that's what creates the seasons,
[00:26:45] not whether you're closer or further away.
[00:26:47] I know when I'm next to a campfire,
[00:26:50] my tilt doesn't really matter.
[00:26:51] It doesn't matter if I go over here.
[00:26:53] It definitely cools off, right?
[00:26:58] I guess I would have to like, if I lean back in my chair,
[00:27:01] maybe it wouldn't be as hot.
[00:27:04] But again, we're talking about logic, right?
[00:27:06] Which doesn't necessarily come into play
[00:27:07] in some of these conversations.
[00:27:08] It's why you can't have a logical conversation
[00:27:11] with somebody about it because it's programming.
[00:27:15] So it's interesting that in the flat Earth model,
[00:27:19] well, in the globe model,
[00:27:22] it actually says that the sun is further away
[00:27:24] in our winter than in our summer.
[00:27:27] And that it's that tilt,
[00:27:28] which is what causes the seasons.
[00:27:30] And I would say, I don't think that's the case.
[00:27:32] And in the flat Earth model,
[00:27:34] the sun is actually closer during our summer.
[00:27:37] And we can talk about that.
[00:27:39] Here's some more on the actual shadows.
[00:27:41] This is talking about Ertosthenes.
[00:27:43] To see if Earth's surface is curved,
[00:27:45] we needed another well.
[00:27:47] Turns out we can't see the bottom
[00:27:48] of both wells at the same time.
[00:27:51] What might explain this?
[00:27:53] Well, there are two possible explanations.
[00:27:55] First, we could have a flat Earth
[00:27:57] with the sun that's small and close by
[00:27:59] so that the light hits the second well at an angle.
[00:28:03] Or second, we could have a curved Earth
[00:28:05] with a sun that's big and far away
[00:28:08] so that all the light comes in parallel.
[00:28:10] But only one well at a time
[00:28:12] is lit all the way to the bottom.
[00:28:14] Turns out with just two wells,
[00:28:16] there's enough wiggle room
[00:28:18] for both explanations to fit our observations.
[00:28:21] Ertosthenes only had two wells.
[00:28:24] So it's interesting that people use that as an example
[00:28:28] they knew the Earth was a ball thousands of years ago
[00:28:31] because of Ertosthenes.
[00:28:33] That's actually not the case.
[00:28:35] You'll find that in so many of these arguments,
[00:28:37] the people are assuming that flat Earth
[00:28:39] there's also believe in a sun
[00:28:40] that's 93 million miles away, which we don't.
[00:28:43] So in this case, shadows do not prove
[00:28:47] that we live on the ball.
[00:28:48] In fact, if you can make the case that it does,
[00:28:52] you could also make the case that it proves
[00:28:53] that we live on a flat Earth with a smaller local sun.
[00:28:58] Something similar to this, maybe.
[00:28:59] I don't know if anyone's ever seen anything like this.
[00:29:02] That is what we experience.
[00:29:03] Like if you just connect all those rays,
[00:29:05] where is that pointing?
[00:29:07] And of course, the Bible talks about in Joshua 10, 12,
[00:29:12] how the sun and the moon settled over specific locations.
[00:29:17] This is when Joshua was chasing down the Amalekites
[00:29:19] and he prays to God to stop the sun and the moon
[00:29:21] so that the day will last longer
[00:29:23] so that he can finish off his enemy
[00:29:25] because he was scared at the sunset,
[00:29:27] he wouldn't be able to finish them off.
[00:29:28] So God stops the sun and the moon.
[00:29:30] He stops the sun over Gibeon and the moon over Agilon.
[00:29:35] And that speaks of a smaller sun and a smaller moon
[00:29:40] that are closer, that are local,
[00:29:42] that are located inside our Earth system.
[00:29:46] When I first got into this idea of flat Earth,
[00:29:50] this crazy idea of flat Earth,
[00:29:52] I did a couple of my own tests.
[00:29:55] And this is a test that I did
[00:29:57] where I thought to myself,
[00:29:59] if the Earth is 93 million miles away,
[00:30:02] it should be roughly the same size at noon
[00:30:05] and at 6 p.m. on a winter day,
[00:30:07] because we're just talking about a quarter of a turn
[00:30:09] of the Earth.
[00:30:11] But if we're on a flat Earth
[00:30:12] where the sun is traveling above our head,
[00:30:15] then there should be a significant difference
[00:30:17] between 12 and 6 p.m.
[00:30:19] Now, this is on a winter day,
[00:30:21] so 6 p.m. is pretty close to sunset.
[00:30:24] It's also very cold,
[00:30:25] so there's minimal atmospheric magnification.
[00:30:29] There's still gonna be some, but it's less.
[00:30:31] And so I took two pictures at noon,
[00:30:33] and I took two pictures at 6 p.m.,
[00:30:36] and I was kinda shocked when I pulled it up
[00:30:39] and put the two lines on there
[00:30:41] and saw that, yeah, there was about a 35% reduction
[00:30:44] in the size of the sun between noon and 6 p.m.
[00:30:47] Now, it was probably greater
[00:30:49] because there probably was some atmospheric magnification
[00:30:52] because as the sun gets lower in the sky,
[00:30:54] you're looking through more and more water molecules.
[00:30:58] But in fact, that's exactly what I think we'd experience
[00:31:01] if we lived on a flat, non-rotating Earth
[00:31:04] with the sun smaller and located inside our system.
[00:31:09] But again, like in every single one of these instances,
[00:31:13] science and the Bible are describing
[00:31:17] two very different things,
[00:31:18] and it's only the Bible that sides with our experience
[00:31:23] in every single one of these things.
[00:31:26] And it's why you can't have an evidence-based conversation
[00:31:30] because if we live on a flat, non-rotating Earth
[00:31:35] and we experience a flat, non-rotating Earth
[00:31:39] and experimentation proves a flat, non-rotating Earth,
[00:31:45] why do I have to get up in front of people
[00:31:48] and explain to them why I believe
[00:31:49] the Earth is flat and motionless?
[00:31:52] It'd be a much more interesting conversation
[00:31:54] for someone to come up here and explain to me
[00:31:55] why they live on a globe because I'm just saying,
[00:31:58] well, I've never seen the curvature,
[00:32:01] I've never felt the motion.
[00:32:03] You've never seen the curvature,
[00:32:04] you've never felt the motion.
[00:32:06] Yeah, why am I up here talking about
[00:32:07] why I believe the Earth is flat and motionless?
[00:32:09] Especially when the Bible describes that as well.
[00:32:13] So, but I think you guys know
[00:32:15] why there's an actual conversation
[00:32:18] and it's because of these guys.
[00:32:21] NASA, the Christian organization
[00:32:23] founded to further God's kingdom, right?
[00:32:29] No, they were formed by Nazis, Freemasons, and magicians.
[00:32:34] And if you're interested in some of that info,
[00:32:35] look up Operation Paperclip,
[00:32:38] check out Jack Parsons, L. Ron Hubbard,
[00:32:41] and then all of the early astronauts,
[00:32:42] the ceremonial lodge that they put on the moon,
[00:32:47] the firmasonic lodge.
[00:32:49] Some crazy similarities between the word NASA,
[00:32:54] obviously NASA's an acronym,
[00:32:56] but these people love to use acronyms that mean things.
[00:32:59] And NASA's very close to a Hebrew word, nasa, nasha,
[00:33:03] however you wanna pronounce it.
[00:33:05] And the interesting thing about that word
[00:33:07] is that it has a double meaning, okay?
[00:33:10] It can mean to lift up.
[00:33:11] So when God gave Cain a mark,
[00:33:14] Cain said, this is more than I can bear, okay?
[00:33:16] That word bear, it's to like lift up, all right?
[00:33:19] It can also mean to beguile,
[00:33:21] like the serpent beguiled Eve in the garden.
[00:33:23] The serpent deceived Eve.
[00:33:25] So it's crazy that this Hebrew word
[00:33:27] that sounds very close to NASA
[00:33:29] can mean to lift up like a rocket to space,
[00:33:33] or it can mean to beguile
[00:33:34] like the serpent beguiled Eve in the garden.
[00:33:37] Another interesting correlation
[00:33:38] is that the Hebrew word for tongue, lashon,
[00:33:42] means fork of flame,
[00:33:44] and it sure looks like there's a nice big serpent tongue
[00:33:48] going right through the NASA logo there.
[00:33:52] So what we're gonna decide is does it mean to lift up
[00:33:55] or does it mean to deceive?
[00:33:57] And another interesting thing is that
[00:34:00] during the creation account,
[00:34:03] God spoke things into existence, right?
[00:34:06] Every day starts with, and then God said.
[00:34:09] And it sure looks like in this case,
[00:34:10] they're showing a serpent speaking their version
[00:34:14] of creation into existence with the tongue, of course.
[00:34:19] So let's check out what NASA is all about here.
[00:34:23] NASA employees artists.
[00:34:25] You guys probably know that
[00:34:26] if you've seen a Dean Odell sermon here,
[00:34:28] they're called data visualizers,
[00:34:30] and we're gonna learn about what these guys do.
[00:34:32] With something NASA latched onto early on,
[00:34:34] for over 50 years,
[00:34:35] NASA worked closely with artists and creative leaders
[00:34:38] like Walt Disney and Norman Rockwell
[00:34:40] to help shape the stories of space flight.
[00:34:43] It's the same legacy today,
[00:34:45] just with more advanced scientific understanding
[00:34:47] and better tools to imagine what far off worlds
[00:34:50] might look like if we could visit them.
[00:34:53] We wanna take a lot of care to make sure
[00:34:54] we don't oversell the part of the story
[00:34:56] that isn't actually the story.
[00:34:58] There are people who just look and think,
[00:34:59] oh, NASA's photographed a planet,
[00:35:01] and they don't understand that actually
[00:35:03] that was a piece of art.
[00:35:04] On the other hand, if we don't do that
[00:35:06] and we don't put a piece of compelling artwork,
[00:35:09] then people may never even look at the story anyway.
[00:35:13] We're putting as much science as we can
[00:35:16] of where we know today.
[00:35:17] And I like to think that in 50 years
[00:35:18] when people come back and look at, say,
[00:35:20] the various pictures of exoplanets after,
[00:35:22] maybe we actually finally know what they look like,
[00:35:24] they might wink and smile to each other,
[00:35:25] like, oh, that's so funny,
[00:35:27] and they thought there was water on that one,
[00:35:28] but also appreciate that this is kind of
[00:35:31] a historical record of how our understanding
[00:35:34] of these planets has changed over time.
[00:35:37] All right, so here's a photo, actually,
[00:35:40] of something in space, right?
[00:35:44] And what's interesting,
[00:35:46] remember the bones that we found earlier
[00:35:49] and then the artist drew what they thought,
[00:35:53] according to their worldview, that that's what would happen?
[00:35:55] Well, that's what these data visualizers do.
[00:35:58] They receive information in charts or graphs
[00:36:01] or fuzzy little photos like this,
[00:36:03] and they draw, like, this is Pluto right here,
[00:36:05] and I didn't wanna ruin it, but this is Pluto,
[00:36:07] and this is what they drew.
[00:36:08] This is the first image of Pluto that they created.
[00:36:13] Now, when we were talking,
[00:36:14] or when they were playing the video,
[00:36:15] they said that NASA partnered with artists
[00:36:18] like Norman Rockwell,
[00:36:19] and there was another one they mentioned,
[00:36:22] Walt Disney, so how cool is it that the planet Pluto
[00:36:27] just happens to have a shape on it
[00:36:28] that looks like Pluto the dog?
[00:36:33] Pretty crazy there, and of course,
[00:36:36] Disney is another great group, right?
[00:36:39] Yeah, awesome, remember the 66.6 degree tilt of the Earth?
[00:36:44] Well, of course Walt Disney has three sixes in his logo,
[00:36:48] and it also has a firmament on there
[00:36:51] with a tower whose top would reach into heaven,
[00:36:55] which is quite interesting as well.
[00:36:58] Can you guys tell what it says in the reflection there?
[00:37:01] Wicked, yeah, I wonder why they wrote Mickey like that.
[00:37:05] Sure it was a mistake.
[00:37:10] So we talked about photo versus an image, right?
[00:37:12] Photo is a capture of reality,
[00:37:14] and an image is a representation of reality.
[00:37:19] So this is the blue marble image, okay?
[00:37:23] And we're gonna go into how that's created.
[00:37:26] I'm gonna have to read it on here,
[00:37:27] this is too small on my screen.
[00:37:29] So the spectacular blue marble image
[00:37:31] is the most detailed true color image
[00:37:34] of the entire Earth to date, okay?
[00:37:35] So they haven't used the word photo yet, okay?
[00:37:39] Using a collection of satellite-based observations,
[00:37:42] scientists and visualizers stitched together
[00:37:45] months of observations of the land surface,
[00:37:49] oceans, sea ice, and clouds
[00:37:51] into a seamless true color mosaic
[00:37:54] of every square kilometer of the Earth, basically.
[00:37:59] So they admit, and this is, I put the website up here,
[00:38:01] this is nasa.gov, right?
[00:38:04] So this is not some crazy website I found it on.
[00:38:08] You've got, this is Robert Simmons,
[00:38:10] he's known as like the father of the blue marble.
[00:38:13] He's the guy that helped create this image in 2002.
[00:38:18] And it says, he's talking about his job here at NASA.
[00:38:22] He says, my role is to make imagery from Earth sciences data.
[00:38:27] I turned data into pictures, okay?
[00:38:30] So he's not enhancing photos,
[00:38:34] he's enhancing data with a worldview behind it, remember.
[00:38:39] This is what they did, so this is a big description,
[00:38:42] but at the end of the description of what they did,
[00:38:44] the scientific process of how they got
[00:38:46] to the blue marble image, he says,
[00:38:48] then we wrapped the flat map around a ball.
[00:38:52] My part was integrating the surface clouds and oceans
[00:38:56] to match people's expectations
[00:38:58] of how Earth looks like from space.
[00:39:02] So where do we get our expectations
[00:39:04] of how Earth looks like from space?
[00:39:06] Universal studios, like if we don't have photos
[00:39:11] of what Earth looks like from space,
[00:39:14] how do we match expectations?
[00:39:16] Well, they've fed us those expectations
[00:39:18] and now they're matching them.
[00:39:22] So here's the first time they use the word photo, okay?
[00:39:24] Because here's Earth and it says,
[00:39:25] this is a detailed photo-like view of Earth.
[00:39:30] Yeah, photo-like.
[00:39:33] And then we're gonna go into some other stuff here.
[00:39:35] Let's just watch this, all right,
[00:39:38] with our current abilities in Hollywood
[00:39:41] and think if we still think this is real right here.
[00:39:56] I do feel bad for the guy they left behind
[00:39:58] who's filming this.
[00:40:02] It was Bruce Willis.
[00:40:07] So this is a guy who downloaded this photo from NASA.gov
[00:40:13] and is now changing the exposures on it
[00:40:16] so that you can see that there's actually a box
[00:40:19] around Earth that they cropped into this moon photo here.
[00:40:24] And again, this is supposedly a photo from NASA.
[00:40:27] You can see that, yeah, Earth was just cropped in there
[00:40:29] over and over again, all these things
[00:40:33] when you do the exposure, yeah.
[00:40:38] You guys know this guy.
[00:40:40] I think he's on the spectrum, but.
[00:40:42] I'd go to the moon in a nanosecond.
[00:40:45] The problem is we don't have the technology
[00:40:47] to do that anymore.
[00:40:48] We used to, but we destroyed that technology
[00:40:53] and it's a painful process to build it back again.
[00:40:58] Yeah, so someone had asked him why we don't go to the moon
[00:41:01] and he's basically saying, well, we destroyed it
[00:41:02] along with the telemetry data, right?
[00:41:04] That's all missing as well.
[00:41:08] Here's Neil deGrasse Tyson talking
[00:41:10] about the Red Bull space jump
[00:41:12] and how it looks like he's jumping from the edge of space
[00:41:17] but he's actually not.
[00:41:19] So if the Earth were actually this size,
[00:41:22] the International Space Station would be orbiting
[00:41:25] about a half an inch above the surface.
[00:41:29] And that dude who jumped out of a perfectly good balloon,
[00:41:34] which is a Felix, Felix Bumgardner,
[00:41:38] he would have been about two millimeters
[00:41:41] above the surface of this globe.
[00:41:44] That's his edge of space jump.
[00:41:54] Now, you know, I don't have a problem if he does it,
[00:41:59] but the honesty of it would greatly diminish
[00:42:02] what I think people thought he was actually doing.
[00:42:05] And not only that, they made sure to photograph him
[00:42:07] standing there with a really wide angle lens
[00:42:10] which curves horizontal lines.
[00:42:12] So in the photo, you see this curvature of Earth's surface
[00:42:16] and he said, wow, he's in space, look at that.
[00:42:19] No, he's not at that height.
[00:42:21] You don't see the curvature of the Earth
[00:42:25] if you are two millimeters above this beach ball.
[00:42:29] He just don't, that stuff is flat.
[00:42:35] So it's interesting, you have people that say,
[00:42:36] oh, I can see the curvature of the Earth
[00:42:38] from an airplane yet Felix Bumgardner
[00:42:41] is three times higher than an airplane
[00:42:43] than Neil deGrasse Tyson is saying
[00:42:44] you can't see curvature from that height.
[00:42:47] So here is the space jump right here, whoops, oh, sorry.
[00:42:53] You also have to push down to go forward on this clicker.
[00:42:55] So if the Earth were actually.
[00:42:57] So check out the curvature right there
[00:42:59] from outside the capsule, yet the non-fish eye lens
[00:43:02] from inside the capsule, look at the horizon there.
[00:43:07] Pretty flat.
[00:43:09] All right, we'll skip past this one.
[00:43:11] Here's a guy who's doing some research in Canada.
[00:43:15] He's found basically like some Google street type photos.
[00:43:18] And this is where NASA trains for their moon missions.
[00:43:22] And what's interesting is they found some rock formations
[00:43:25] that look very similar to the rock formations on Mars.
[00:43:31] They also found a couple hills that look very similar
[00:43:35] and they did a comparison here.
[00:43:38] Yeah, just a little red filter.
[00:43:40] And then they kept looking
[00:43:41] and they found something kind of funny.
[00:43:44] Oh, wait, oh, look, a rover.
[00:43:48] It's got a NASA logo on it.
[00:43:53] And then NASA logo on there, pretty awesome.
[00:43:57] All right, so this is some technology
[00:43:59] where it's contact lenses that augment reality.
[00:44:05] So it can look like you're playing with things
[00:44:09] in like weightlessness and you can grab it.
[00:44:11] And then they render it in real time.
[00:44:14] So live, and this is a shot of a guy
[00:44:16] who thinks he's grabbing something out of the air
[00:44:19] and putting it away.
[00:44:20] I think he thinks he's grabbing this guy's hat
[00:44:22] and putting it away,
[00:44:24] but it's actually not showing up on live TV.
[00:44:28] And you can see like his eyes look weird, right?
[00:44:30] And so he thinks he's holding this microphone
[00:44:33] but his hand is actually going through the microphone.
[00:44:36] So his left hand is holding the microphone here
[00:44:38] and then he slides his right hand under his left
[00:44:41] even though he's supposedly holding the microphone
[00:44:43] and the microphone actually is not there.
[00:44:48] Here's a guy whose head disappears.
[00:44:50] Whoops.
[00:44:54] This guy totally disappears.
[00:44:57] No, gone.
[00:45:00] This guy reappears.
[00:45:03] I'm not sure what that's showing there
[00:45:04] but obviously some chicanery going on there.
[00:45:11] Whoops, these guys dissolve.
[00:45:13] But, and then you can see in the background there
[00:45:15] there's a green screen.
[00:45:20] They love to do their back flips.
[00:45:21] You know, when they're on live with schools
[00:45:24] this guy's cable gets tangled up.
[00:45:25] Looks at this guy in the back grabs it.
[00:45:27] And then this guy in the front here just grabs it right there
[00:45:31] just to make sure he doesn't run into anything.
[00:45:33] Let me just grab that for you.
[00:45:35] I got it.
[00:45:39] In case you missed it.
[00:45:43] See the guy's cables hitting his shirt as he bends down.
[00:45:52] And then, oh, they had a guy in the background there.
[00:45:56] Doesn't matter, we'll miss it.
[00:45:57] All right, so this one there's a guy
[00:45:59] actually in the background here.
[00:46:00] This is a model.
[00:46:02] See, is it playing?
[00:46:04] Yeah, there we go.
[00:46:05] See the guy right in the back behind it?
[00:46:07] They're pretending that they're launching a satellite here.
[00:46:10] And this guy realizes he's in the live shot.
[00:46:14] And then he goes away.
[00:46:16] See, look, he's like, oh, wait, oh.
[00:46:19] And then he's out of there.
[00:46:20] All right, whoops.
[00:46:24] Here's a buddy of mine, Justin Harvey,
[00:46:26] in front of the city council saying
[00:46:28] that they need to look into NASA.
[00:46:30] This is the county which NASA launches from.
[00:46:32] And this is him describing how some of the Apollo astronauts
[00:46:36] are still alive.
[00:46:38] Or excuse me, not Apollo, but Challenger.
[00:46:40] Yeah.
[00:46:41] I think we all remember the Challenger explosion
[00:46:43] that took place in 1986 that tragically took the lives
[00:46:46] of all seven astronauts on board.
[00:46:48] It launched not too far from where we're standing here today.
[00:46:50] Well, the interesting thing is, a couple decades later,
[00:46:52] this thing called the internet came about,
[00:46:54] and someone allegedly found almost all of those astronauts
[00:46:58] alive and well, many using the same exact names.
[00:47:03] As you can see here, we have Challenger astronaut Judith
[00:47:05] Resnick, and also a Judith Resnick Yale law professor,
[00:47:09] Michael J. Smith, the pilot of the Challenger astronaut,
[00:47:12] and also professor at University of Wisconsin,
[00:47:15] now retired, Michael J. Smith, Commander Dick Scobee,
[00:47:18] who is now president of CALS and Trees.
[00:47:21] Now, if you'll notice, they all have the exact same faces
[00:47:25] 30 some odd years later, the same exact name,
[00:47:28] and they are the same age.
[00:47:31] And there's been people that have done even further
[00:47:34] studies into all the members, but he did just those three
[00:47:36] because they were the most obvious.
[00:47:40] So if NASA is doing all these things
[00:47:45] that are obviously untrue, isn't it likely
[00:47:50] that they're hiding something?
[00:47:51] Isn't it likely that they're covering something up?
[00:47:53] Because if they weren't, I don't know
[00:47:54] that we'd see any of this stuff.
[00:47:57] And so my question is, can truth change?
[00:48:02] And I would say the answer is no, because truth is truth.
[00:48:06] Does science change?
[00:48:09] Science does change, so can science be truth?
[00:48:13] No, it can't, the two are opposites, in fact,
[00:48:17] which is why we see the Bible and science
[00:48:20] teaching the opposite thing over and over again.
[00:48:24] So has the Bible changed?
[00:48:27] No, the Bible has not changed.
[00:48:29] And if you're watching this like months from now,
[00:48:31] go back and watch Dean Odell's video on the history
[00:48:34] or part one of the history of the Bible.
[00:48:37] The Bible has not changed,
[00:48:39] so can the Bible be truth?
[00:48:41] I would say yes, it can.
[00:48:46] So I believe that this setup right here,
[00:48:50] we're looking at a cross section on the left,
[00:48:52] the Hebrew concept of the world,
[00:48:54] and we're looking at sky view,
[00:48:56] bird's eye view of the earth down.
[00:48:58] I believe this is the only model here
[00:49:02] that can fit all the verses in the Bible, okay?
[00:49:06] It's the only one that can fit
[00:49:07] the 200 plus descriptions of Hebrew cosmology.
[00:49:11] It's the only one that can fulfill the 70 times
[00:49:15] that it talks about the sun, moon, and stars as traveling.
[00:49:18] And it can fulfill, it's talking about how the earth
[00:49:21] is fixed and immovable.
[00:49:23] It can talk about the four corners of the earth,
[00:49:25] and it can talk about the ends of the earth,
[00:49:29] the story of Joshua that we mentioned
[00:49:31] where the sun and the moon stopped in their tracks,
[00:49:34] the dimensions of the New Jerusalem,
[00:49:37] the firmament and the waters above,
[00:49:40] the northern lights in Revelation 4.3
[00:49:43] where John goes into heaven, he sees the throne,
[00:49:45] he sees the emerald rainbow around the throne of God.
[00:49:48] Well, the Bible talks about God residing
[00:49:50] in the sides of the north, okay?
[00:49:53] So the northern lights, in my opinion, the real ones,
[00:49:57] the northern lights are the emerald rainbow
[00:49:59] around the throne of God.
[00:50:01] Noah's flood, okay, Noah's flood.
[00:50:03] If you look at this picture on the left,
[00:50:05] let's picture the firmament like a bowl,
[00:50:09] an upside down bowl that you lower into a bathtub,
[00:50:13] okay, like when you were little.
[00:50:15] And what happens, you trap the air inside the bowl, right?
[00:50:18] And if you go like that, the air pops up, right?
[00:50:20] So God lowers the firmament into the waters, okay?
[00:50:24] He traps the air in there, and then during the flood,
[00:50:27] it says that he opens the windows of heaven, all right?
[00:50:30] Well, if you have a bowl in water and you open a window
[00:50:34] or you poke a hole in the top, what happens?
[00:50:37] Water doesn't necessarily come in, okay?
[00:50:40] But air comes out, so the waters below start to rise.
[00:50:44] The fountains of the deep burst forth.
[00:50:47] Why did they burst forth?
[00:50:48] Because God opened the windows of heaven,
[00:50:50] he's letting pressure out of the system,
[00:50:52] so the waters are rising up.
[00:50:54] It's that air pressure that's holding him down.
[00:50:57] And so that's in Genesis seven.
[00:50:59] Well, in Genesis eight,
[00:51:01] how does he get the waters to subside?
[00:51:03] Well, I believe he blows air back into the system
[00:51:06] because the Bible talks about a wind
[00:51:08] that goes over the whole earth
[00:51:10] at the same time that God closes the windows of heaven
[00:51:13] and the flood waters subside.
[00:51:15] So I think that's a really cool correlation
[00:51:17] because I think it's exactly how the flood happened.
[00:51:20] And again, that's not possible
[00:51:21] on a spinning ball flying through space.
[00:51:24] So in closing, I think with all of this information, okay?
[00:51:29] We have a responsibility not to cast lies
[00:51:34] further into the next generation.
[00:51:37] All right, there's a quote from Max Planck.
[00:51:39] It says that a scientific truth does not triumph
[00:51:44] by convincing its opponents and making them see the light.
[00:51:48] It triumphs by a new generation growing up
[00:51:51] that's familiar with it, right?
[00:51:53] And that sounds like kind of a scary tragic statement,
[00:51:57] but it could also be encouraging for us, right?
[00:52:00] Because step one is to have more babies, right?
[00:52:08] So, right, my wife and I joke
[00:52:12] that you can't convince everyone,
[00:52:13] so you might as well burst some new ones.
[00:52:18] So not only do we feel like we're doing our part
[00:52:21] by like spreading this word across the world,
[00:52:25] but also having more children
[00:52:27] that grow up never doubting the biblical model.
[00:52:31] Bo, the little guy who you see running around here,
[00:52:32] since he's been two years old,
[00:52:35] he yells fake, fake, fake at the Universal Studios logo
[00:52:38] when it comes on the deal.
[00:52:42] And I've never taught him that.
[00:52:44] I think he just heard some of his siblings saying that.
[00:52:47] And so he and Winslet, his sister who's right above him,
[00:52:52] they've always done that.
[00:52:53] And again, it's not something that we taught.
[00:52:55] It was just a culture that we created.
[00:52:57] So Jesus is the builder.
[00:53:01] We already talked about that.
[00:53:02] John one, Hebrews one, Colossians one.
[00:53:05] Not only did he make the earth, he made the ages,
[00:53:08] he made everything, he'll build this family here.
[00:53:11] I've actually met my wife at a flat earth conference,
[00:53:13] if you guys didn't know that.
[00:53:15] And the rest was history.
[00:53:17] We got married four months later.
[00:53:18] We had a pretty good pastor marry us.
[00:53:21] He's sitting in the front row down there.
[00:53:24] And yeah, so what I wanna leave you guys with
[00:53:29] is the fact that everything that God creates
[00:53:33] points to him, okay?
[00:53:35] The creation points to the creator, not away from him.
[00:53:40] And I think the biblical model like literally points to God.
[00:53:45] And as Christians, we should be cautious
[00:53:50] on creating entire belief systems
[00:53:53] that are based on bias interpretations
[00:53:56] of numbers, readings, and measurements.
[00:53:58] Especially when those interpretations
[00:54:00] go against the scriptures and are in direct opposition
[00:54:05] to our daily lives.
[00:54:07] So ultimately, we have to make a choice
[00:54:12] whether we're gonna believe theories
[00:54:13] that are backed by scripture, logic, and experimentation,
[00:54:17] or we're gonna go with culturally inspired artwork
[00:54:20] that we see on screens and in textbooks.
[00:54:23] So I believe that we should prove all things,
[00:54:26] hold fast to that which is good.
[00:54:27] And when science and scripture clash,
[00:54:31] we should embrace the creator, not the culture.
[00:54:33] Thank you.
[00:54:49] Amen, amen.
[00:54:50] Give him another round of applause.
[00:54:52] He deserved it.
[00:54:55] What a beautiful family you have, brother.
[00:54:57] God's blessed you.
[00:54:59] That's so awesome.
[00:55:00] Doing your part to replenish the earth
[00:55:03] with true biblical cosmology believers.
[00:55:08] And Jessica too will tell her the same, you know.
[00:55:11] But yeah, it was great.
[00:55:13] We went out to Fort Worth, Dallas area,
[00:55:16] and married Matt and Jessica.
[00:55:19] Gosh, that was 2019.
[00:55:21] Boy, y'all got a crew, man.
[00:55:23] Whoo, that is so awesome.
[00:55:26] That's a blessing.
[00:55:26] You got many weapons there in your quiver, right?
[00:55:30] All right, we're gonna take, it is now.
[00:55:32] Well, guess what?
[00:55:33] How did you get through earlier?
[00:55:35] Oh, by the way, let me just say this.
[00:55:36] Matt's got a book out there and he,
[00:55:39] it's really, it's illustrated by Paint Tank
[00:55:41] and you wanna share about that?
[00:55:44] Yeah, sure.
[00:55:45] You can, I sell it on Amazon.
[00:55:47] So you could search Matt Long,
[00:55:48] the house that Jesus built,
[00:55:49] or you just go to mattlongbook.com
[00:55:51] and it'll take you straight to the listing there.
[00:55:54] Yeah.
[00:55:55] Thanks for coming, Bruce.
[00:55:56] Yes.