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[00:01:03] evening everyone want to welcome you to Prophecy Quake tonight this is your [00:01:07] host pastor Kevin Wilkinson this is October the 17th 2017 boy do we have a [00:01:13] show for you tonight we're going to get into the Torah the Trinity and the power [00:01:18] of the Holy Spirit I said in the description of the show tonight we're [00:01:23] gonna have a special guest to discuss this who breaks root Torah movement maybe [00:01:28] for the last time but we'll see you have to wait on that see what God [00:01:32] wants to do we'll just we'll discuss what Jesus meant when he said that he came to [00:01:37] fulfill the law and the prophets we'll also revisit the biblical view of the [00:01:42] trying new nature of God versus the many false theories floating around and we [00:01:47] will look at what it really means to walk as he walked to listen so y'all just [00:01:52] hang tight listen up listen close and we got a good show for you tonight so [00:01:57] right now I want to go ahead and bring on our special guest we did tonight y'all [00:02:03] will enjoy this we want to welcome pastor Dean Odle back with us tonight [00:02:08] he's so crazy man it's good to be back we welcome everyone listening by blog [00:02:15] talk radio watching by Facebook or YouTube tonight it's good to be back I [00:02:20] appreciate pastor Kevin standing in for me and taking taking over while I took [00:02:25] a little time not really a break but I just had to focus on some other things [00:02:30] and get some get some work done so it's very good to be back with you tonight as [00:02:35] pastor Kevin shared there a minute ago we're gonna touch on again the issue of [00:02:40] the Torah observance the law keepers out there that want to keep the law of [00:02:44] Moses and yet want to try to live under both the old cover the new covenant [00:02:48] we're gonna talk about that a little bit more tonight and and I say tonight [00:02:51] hopefully for the time being at least that this is going to be a final [00:02:55] installment this is not my desire to keep beating this as I will call it the [00:03:02] dead horse here because for those of you out there maybe this is be the first [00:03:07] program or the first video or message that you've seen addressing this if it [00:03:13] is please go back down through the videos in YouTube or the audio messages [00:03:20] on blog talk radio and you know you can go all the way back to April when I [00:03:25] really started addressing this issue as I saw more and more craziness out there [00:03:33] in on Facebook and through the internet and and as I begin to get more and more [00:03:38] questions about why do we meet on Sunday and you know the constant [00:03:43] questions what about Christmas do you celebrate Christmas and Easter and all [00:03:46] these questions and so you know and of course my wife was told that she she was [00:03:52] worship of a false God because she said Jesus instead of Yeshua that really [00:03:57] started things for me of getting back into this and studying and and and [00:04:01] really I have been shocked I have to say I've been shocked where the [00:04:07] messianic movement to the whether you want to call it Hebrew roots he break [00:04:12] roots or the Torah observe it move however you want to put it I saw things [00:04:18] I was involved in going to Shabbat services in Birmingham you know nearly [00:04:25] every Friday night one of my best friends studied under Joseph good and [00:04:31] chosen people's ministries with dr. Ben Alpert and all this stuff so I've been [00:04:35] around it I've seen it I've seen the good and I've seen the bad and I've [00:04:39] seen the ugly and lately I'm gonna tell you I've seen more ugly than I've seen [00:04:43] good but I do know that the Holy Spirit is on and what I want to say if this [00:04:48] again if this is your first time you saw the title and you know you know I [00:04:54] want to hear what he has to say tonight's not gonna be a night I'm [00:04:57] gonna go back and rehash everything that we've covered over the different [00:05:02] shows and and sermons that I've done in church you can go back and look go [00:05:08] all the way back to April there's one about the he break roots Flat Earth and [00:05:12] and the division that I saw coming because of this the extremes within the [00:05:18] Torah movement and the Hebrew roots movement and so anyway that was a [00:05:24] beginning and then I did one two-hour show on blog talk is only audio because [00:05:28] before we really started video and everything but it was back in April or [00:05:34] May and that was about a two-hour it was a two-hour show I went through the [00:05:39] entire book of Galatians in great detail and other passages as well and it's [00:05:43] talked about all of this and then did another video did another two hours on [00:05:49] it and so anyway and then recently I did two messages one called the New [00:05:57] Testament church and the Sabbath question and then of course the [00:06:02] schoolmaster the bond woman and the dead husband was you know again there's [00:06:07] just those two sermons were about four hours of teaching in the scriptures [00:06:11] through the context of New Testament and and so anyway tonight is not a night to [00:06:18] rehash all that I am going to touch on some things again but I really do want [00:06:22] to touch on the issue of the Trinity the triune nature of God the deity of [00:06:27] Jesus Christ maybe a little different than what you've heard but but I [00:06:32] want to I want it to be clear because I'm seeing all kind of craziness out [00:06:37] there about you know the the Godhead who Jesus is and it's amazing within the [00:06:44] Torah and then this is what disturbed me one of the things that disturbed me in [00:06:48] the beginning of looking at the Torah observant movement is that how many of [00:06:54] them were not only diminishing things in the New Testament didn't diminishing [00:06:58] the writings of Paul even calling the New Testament commentary one of their [00:07:02] leaders called it the so-called New Testament I mean we're talking about [00:07:08] some just terrible stuff that I was hearing but well even worse is the [00:07:13] denial of Jesus as the fullness of the Godhead bodily Jesus as God in the [00:07:19] flesh and we we even though I've touched on that even in the recent [00:07:23] months I did a message the triune nature of God I did another one entitled God [00:07:28] with us so again these are subjects that I have been covering because they are the [00:07:34] foundations of Christianity just like the issue of creation and God being our [00:07:38] Creator and the Bible being the inspired word of of God the God breathed [00:07:44] scriptures that we have here I'm always going to contend for the faith which [00:07:48] was once delivered to the Saints I'm going to contend for the foundations [00:07:52] of Christianity and that's why I posted I have I've got an entire you know [00:07:57] Facebook page dedicated to bash me on a regular basis but I posted you know [00:08:04] just yesterday I think it was that I'm not out to be a social media superstar [00:08:09] I'm not out to be a flat earth superstar I'm out to and I'm set as [00:08:14] Paul said in Philippians I am set for the defense of the gospel and I know [00:08:18] that I tick a lot of people off and and I make a lot of people upset or [00:08:22] uncomfortable especially if they adhere to some of these you know fringe [00:08:28] movements and strange doctrines and you know they've left they've left [00:08:33] traditional doctrinal biblical Christianity for these different [00:08:38] movements and fads and things that have come and gone but there's there's [00:08:42] certain foundations within Christianity that we don't need to move away from [00:08:46] and so so I want to talk about some of those things but we'll get into that and [00:08:51] also want to talk about the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit [00:08:55] and and that the Church of Jesus Christ should have signs wonders miracles the [00:09:01] power of Jesus flowing I know that there's been some mockery of that [00:09:05] there's always oh they love to quote you know Matthew 7 and say oh have we [00:09:10] not cast out demons in thy name and in my name done with you but you're [00:09:13] lawless and I mean I hear that all the time but I'm gonna tell you what you can [00:09:17] call me lawless but I'll call you powerless because it's time we you know [00:09:22] you want to talk about walking is Jesus walk Jesus cast out demons heal the sick [00:09:26] cleanse the lepers raise the dead the crippled walk to death here the blind [00:09:30] would see I think that is far more important than trying to keep every [00:09:34] jot and tittle of the Old Testament law but we'll get into that too tonight [00:09:39] but I want to start tonight in the book of Titus and in the Apostle Paul giving [00:09:47] Holy Ghost inspired instruction to a young pastor who really would give an [00:09:53] authority to be over a host of churches and so he tells Titus here and we're [00:10:00] gonna read from chapter 3 verse 1 through verse 11 here and I want to read [00:10:06] this and and again he really again reiterates justification by faith [00:10:12] through God's grace and he says something about the constant strivings over the [00:10:20] law and that's why tonight look I'm not I'm not gonna continue to strive and [00:10:24] go back and forth with these people because I've had a fun time the last [00:10:28] few days just banning and blocking you know the Torah radicals from my from [00:10:35] my Facebook page and and because I'm only going to give you know truth and [00:10:41] correction and sound biblical instruction and context of the covenant [00:10:48] where to walk in the new covenant not the old covenant and give context I don't [00:10:53] have to revert to name-calling telling people they're clueless telling people [00:10:56] they're ignorant telling people that you know as I have been man you want to [00:11:01] talk about Kevin I have been just some I've been burned in effigy my brother I [00:11:08] have been skewered I have been excommunicated spiritually I've quit [00:11:15] following a lot of them too I've been blocking stuff and I'm just not gonna sit [00:11:20] there and watch and and let my blood pressure be affected by this mess [00:11:24] anymore either brother well and that's and that's what let's let's read this [00:11:28] in Titus because that's what Titus says finally Paul's it gives instruction to him [00:11:32] so let's read this and I want to back up and read from chapter of in I mean [00:11:38] from verse one before we get into the end of it because so you just have [00:11:41] context so here's Paul's instructions through the Holy Spirit through him [00:11:45] rather to Titus he says put them in mind to be subject to principalities and [00:11:51] powers and to obey magistrates and to be ready to every good work so you [00:11:57] talking about being submissive to the authorities of course as much as we [00:12:00] possibly can be and then he says to speak evil of no man to be no brawlers but be [00:12:05] gentle showing all meatness unto all men for we ourselves also were sometimes [00:12:10] foolish disobedient deceived serving divers lust and pleasures living in [00:12:16] malice and envy and hateful and hating one another but after that the kindness [00:12:20] and love of God our Savior toward man appeared not by works of righteousness [00:12:25] which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of [00:12:30] regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost which he shed on us abundantly [00:12:35] through Jesus Christ our Savior that being justified by his grace we should [00:12:40] be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life this is a faithful saying [00:12:45] and these things I will that thou affirm constantly and that they have they [00:12:50] which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works these [00:12:55] things are good and profitable and demand but avoid foolish questions and [00:13:00] genealogies and contentions and striving about the law for they are [00:13:07] unprofitable and vain a man that is a heretic after the first and second [00:13:12] admonition reject knowing that he that is such is subverted and sinneth being [00:13:18] condemned of himself so here Paul plainly instructs again the Holy Spirit [00:13:24] through him plainly instructs this young pastor look you remind people that they [00:13:28] are saved by God's mercy by God's grace not by works of righteousness which they [00:13:33] have done and then he goes on to say you know you put them and remember and [00:13:37] you avoid foolish questions genealogies contentions and striving about the law [00:13:46] and he's talking about the law of Moses here he's talking about those it's we [00:13:50] can sit here all day long matter of fact these folks would argue until Jesus [00:13:56] comes back they would argue to their blue in the face you know but I'm just gonna [00:14:00] say this I didn't come up with the phrases that we are no longer under the [00:14:05] school master which is the law I didn't come up with a phrase that the bond [00:14:08] woman is the allegory of the covenant from Sinai and you cast out the bond [00:14:13] woman and we are heirs of the free I didn't come up with that I didn't come [00:14:17] up with that we are delivered from the law that we are dead to the law I didn't [00:14:21] come up with what the Apostles decreed in Acts 15 I didn't come up with all [00:14:25] that so you know you guys want to keep arguing about it I'm only gonna tell you [00:14:30] once or twice and after that I'm done I'm moving on from because I'm not [00:14:35] gonna keep arguing about this and striving with you and fighting with you [00:14:39] if you want to live under try to live under the law of Moses and try to keep [00:14:44] all that you go right ahead but I'm gonna live under the new covenant and I [00:14:49] thank God for it I thank God for what Paul said in Galatians the Liberty that [00:14:54] we have he spoke of the Liberty we have in Christ Jesus and and the whole book [00:14:58] of Galatians he's dealing with people push trying to push New Testament [00:15:02] believers and to put the requirements of the Mosaic law on them and that's [00:15:07] the context of the entire book and he says you know they've come in here to [00:15:10] spy out our Liberty that we have in Christ Jesus and to put us back into [00:15:15] bondage to be circumcised to keep fees to do all these things and Paul you know he [00:15:21] twice in chapter 2 he talks about our Liberty that we have in Christ they come [00:15:25] to spy out our Liberty to bring us back into bondage and then you know he [00:15:30] says in chapter 5 to stand fast in the Liberty wherewith Christ has made [00:15:35] us free and then he says again you know to to use not our Liberty as an [00:15:39] occasion to the flesh and then he spelled out in in Galatians 5 here are the [00:15:43] works of the flesh you don't do these things don't practice these things don't [00:15:47] live in these things habitually so there is the law of Christ that that that phrase [00:15:51] is used in Galatians 6 the law of Christ he uses it Romans the law of [00:15:57] faith and you know we are under a new covenant and the new covenant has its [00:16:04] requirements the old covenant had its requirements and the new covenant spells [00:16:08] out what is required of us and so if you're not going to accept that and you [00:16:13] want to just keep fighting and arguing there's nothing more I can do if you [00:16:17] won't accept what's in Romans Colossians 2 you want to try to explain them away [00:16:21] or twist them around you actually revert them if you're not going to take the [00:16:24] council decision of the Apostles in Acts chapter 15 if you're not going to [00:16:29] listen to the book of Galatians the book of Hebrews I don't know if you're [00:16:32] not going to listen to what the New Testament says about this issue then [00:16:39] you're not gonna listen to me and we're not you know we're just gonna we're [00:16:43] just gonna keep going round and round here but you know it's like what you [00:16:47] alluded to earlier you said they equate the writings of Paul and the Apostles [00:16:53] and that sort of stuff to commentary right like Matthew Henry and all these [00:16:57] commentaries that we have you know they equate that with a commentary and it's [00:17:03] easy to dismiss them right right and then you know here's the thing they talk [00:17:10] about they always want to go back and they want to talk about Psalm 119 of [00:17:13] course there's some ministry out there it named itself after that and and and [00:17:18] they want to talk about you know the law is perfect and the law is what it [00:17:23] gives you know and nobody's nobody's arguing that the law in what it was [00:17:28] designed to do was perfect in what it was designed to do I mean that's why Paul [00:17:34] says in Galatians that the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ and to [00:17:40] bring us to faith but once faith is come we're no longer under the schoolmaster [00:17:44] and so it couldn't be looks folks if you're in that I'm telling you it [00:17:48] couldn't be more clear I'm not saying that the law was not perfect in what God [00:17:54] designed it to do he designed it to bring the knowledge of sin he designed it [00:17:59] to bring us conviction of sin he he brought it forth as a standard of his [00:18:05] perfect righteousness and then he said this was to bring us to Christ this was [00:18:11] our schoolmaster this was our teacher our trainer our mentor to bring us to [00:18:16] Jesus Christ so that we would know we were sinners and we had need of a savior [00:18:20] and that we had need of redemption and then of course he talks about that the [00:18:25] blood of bulls and goats could never do away with sin so it was a temporary [00:18:29] solution until God himself would take on human flesh live a sinless life born [00:18:38] of a virgin and then die a sacrificial death on the cross thus changing the [00:18:43] law of the animal sacrifices thus changing the law of the Levitical [00:18:48] priesthood and creating a new covenant a new covenant with new law new [00:18:55] requirements and if you can't if you can't understand that there's not a [00:19:00] whole lot more I can tell you I mean it's just really you choose how you [00:19:04] want to live and then I thank God listen I'm I've had a lot of the [00:19:07] negativity coming at me from you know the extremes out there but I've also [00:19:13] had a lot of people email comment text just letting me know how thankful they [00:19:20] are that they were confused about some of these things and that me taking the [00:19:25] time and letting the Holy Spirit lead me to really address this subject [00:19:28] thoroughly since April that that they've been greatly helped they are more at [00:19:34] peace and they are learning how to live new covenant Christianity and not as you [00:19:44] know and again they keep keeping the thing that if we don't keep the law of [00:19:47] Moses we're lawless no no you can't you can't pull that one on the guy who [00:19:52] wrote the book grace abuse to Baptist and Methodist and Calvinist and reformed [00:19:57] theology people until you can't which I wrote a whole book saying you can't [00:20:01] live and indulge the lust of the flesh and think you're going to heaven when you [00:20:05] die so to call me or anybody else that doesn't keep your Torah movement and your [00:20:10] law of Moses lawless is just a lie it's just it's just out of context maybe you [00:20:16] believe it but you're still wrong I don't care if you're sincere in your [00:20:20] belief you're wrong nobody here not me not pastor Kevin not fire and grace [00:20:25] church not anybody that I know that understands the new covenant says you [00:20:30] can live any way you want to live and you think you're going to heaven you can [00:20:33] just habitually practice the lust of the flesh and the works of the flesh that [00:20:37] Paul listed in Galatians 5 or Ephesians 5 or that John listed in Revelation 21 6 [00:20:44] through 8 nobody can you know we don't believe anybody can live as a habitual [00:20:48] adulterer or fornicator or drug you know drunken in drunkenness or idolatry or [00:20:54] witchcraft or hatred we don't believe that I mean we know what is required [00:20:59] of us under the new covenant so to say that if you know I know that I'm not a [00:21:04] sinless man or a perfect man but I know I'm not habitually living in the sins [00:21:09] unto death listed in the New Testament so I am not lawless because I don't keep [00:21:15] the Sabbath on Saturday or because I don't keep the feast or because I don't [00:21:18] do what you think I should do and what's funny you know what's really funny I [00:21:21] had one woman come on my page yesterday and and claim that she keeps [00:21:25] all of the new of the Old Testament law of Moses I thought to myself I wonder if [00:21:32] she if she separates herself when she's on her cycle and doesn't touch anybody [00:21:37] or any man or anybody and and I you know I mean I just I just started this I [00:21:41] just told her flat out no you don't you don't keep every law of Moses you [00:21:45] don't and you know you don't so either you're lying you're living a lie [00:21:49] whatever you want to call it but she doesn't and it's just funny some of the [00:21:54] extremes and and and tonight you know one of the things as we as we get into [00:22:00] this before we get into the Trinity and the power of the Holy Spirit because to [00:22:04] me these things are are even more important they're paramount I just want to [00:22:08] deal with with one passage and let's go back to Matthew chapter 5 and this [00:22:14] is the one we keep hearing over and over and over again and you know I guess [00:22:20] I just I'm blown away by people because they just can't seem to look at words [00:22:29] define them accurately and and understand what they mean in context with the rest [00:22:36] of the of the New Testament but this is the one that gets used all the time I [00:22:42] mean I've heard it several times today I've had what I call maniac meme [00:22:47] posters on my page and I've had to ban you know constant memes from their [00:22:52] favorite Torah ministries out there but this is the one let's go to Matthew 5 [00:23:00] right here where Jesus speaking the Sermon on the Mount he's given the [00:23:05] the blessings and you're the light of the world and so on and so forth and [00:23:09] then he comes down to verse 17 and he says think not that I am come to destroy [00:23:13] the law or the prophets I came not to destroy but to fulfill for verily I say [00:23:18] unto you till heaven and earth pass one jot or one tittle shall know why is pass [00:23:23] from the law tell all be fulfilled now before we get to verse 19 let's just deal [00:23:28] with this part first Jesus everybody that their their main thing they talk [00:23:32] about and they say it over and over again he says Jesus said I come not to [00:23:36] destroy the law but to fulfill now their their focus is always on the part [00:23:41] where Jesus said I did not come to destroy so they immediately jump to that [00:23:45] means that Jesus wants us to keep all the Old Testament law of Moses that we're [00:23:52] still required to do all that stuff circumcision and all the feast and the [00:23:57] Sabbath and you know all the ceremonies and thing that Jesus expects us to do [00:24:01] all that because he said he didn't come to destroy the law what I can't seem to [00:24:06] understand is why they don't really do a deep in-depth study on what he said he [00:24:13] came to do and that is he didn't come to destroy he came to fulfill now you look [00:24:19] up the word fulfill in in the in the Greek language and it means that he [00:24:26] comes to satisfy to execute to finish to fill up I mean it is the illustration [00:24:33] and that's what I have here I didn't get to it Sunday morning but Jesus came to [00:24:38] fulfill the law so this is this is the law here and Jesus comes and he fulfills [00:24:46] it he filled it up by what he did his sacrifice on the cross living a sinless [00:24:50] life Jesus filled it up I mean look at the word that's what it says now he [00:24:55] filled it to its full he didn't destroy it he brought it to pass I mean and the [00:25:02] reason I made this water here and I'm gonna try not to spill this but one of [00:25:07] the reasons that I made this blood red is because it's all about his blood once [00:25:12] his blood was shed that paid for you know for instance okay in the law we have [00:25:20] the commandments of the animal sacrifices whether it be a lamb for this a goat [00:25:24] for that turtle dubs for this and so blood had to be shed for the remission [00:25:29] sins in the Old Covenant and so we have the law now Jesus didn't destroy the law [00:25:36] of the blood sacrifices no he fulfilled it and this is what's so wild is most of [00:25:41] these people will admit that part they'll admit that Jesus became the [00:25:46] ultimate perfect sacrifice and there is no more need for animal sacrifices and [00:25:52] so it just really blows my mind they will admit that that part of the law [00:25:56] of animal sacrifices to cover sin was fulfilled when Jesus died on the cross [00:26:03] and shed his blood for sin and so they'll admit that but then they'll go [00:26:08] but but but we still we still got to keep the rest of it we got said we [00:26:11] still got to do the rest of it and they just they're missing the entire [00:26:14] boat because Jesus when he said he came to fulfill the law and then when he [00:26:21] said not until heaven and earth pass not one jot or tittle will be fulfilled [00:26:25] listen I know this I've read you know one of the smart aleck leaders of this [00:26:29] movement likes to make it likes to make statements like oh this this idiot [00:26:34] preacher is clueless he probably hadn't read Exodus or Deuteronomy or this [00:26:40] you know what that is that is so junior high okay because here's the deal [00:26:48] I've read it dude I've been in this stuff for 30 years oh yeah but if I [00:26:52] say that now I'm bragging yeah I'm bragging but you know at least I'm not [00:26:57] 20-something years old and think I know it all or you know anyway we'll get to [00:27:02] that in a second too but the point of it of it all is is this you know will [00:27:08] it will admit that that part is fulfilled meaning you listen what does it mean [00:27:14] if in the Old Covenant right if in the Old Testament law we were commanded to [00:27:19] sacrifice and I'm gonna get back to Exodus here in a second but we were [00:27:23] commanded and these are forever commandments then we know that when [00:27:30] Jesus died on the cross the animal sacrifices that aspect of the law was to [00:27:35] cease no more right all right so then how does the forever law continue how is [00:27:42] it that not one jot or tittle of the law will fail well because Jesus did it [00:27:46] and because his blood is the blood of God and because his blood is sinless and [00:27:52] because his blood is unique and it is eternal which is why the blood of Jesus [00:27:57] can continually wash our sins away if we come to him and confess our sins and [00:28:01] ask for his forgiveness according to 1st John 1 his blood can continually wash [00:28:07] away sin because it is eternal and it is powerful right so the blood of Jesus [00:28:12] because he died and being God in the flesh and never seeing corruption his [00:28:18] everything about him spirit soul and body everything about him is eternal he [00:28:22] is the eternal high priest he is the eternal sacrifice he is the eternal [00:28:27] Passover lamp therefore all I have to do according to Romans according to Galatians [00:28:35] according to these books all I have to do is come into Jesus through faith and [00:28:42] faith is believing what he did for me on the cross his resurrection from the dead [00:28:48] and being willing to start a relationship with him through faith and and repentance [00:28:56] I'm going to turn away from my old life from my sins and indulgences of the [00:29:01] flesh and I'm going to be in Christ Jesus by faith so this is me I'm going to [00:29:06] go in Jesus now watch me spill this and yes I did I'm in Jesus so folks when [00:29:14] Jesus fulfilled the law here he fulfilled the law by shedding his blood [00:29:21] he fulfilled the law of animal sacrifices and also the law of Passover I mean he's [00:29:27] the the Passover lamb was always the point to Jesus at coming that's why the [00:29:33] that's why John the Baptist said you know behold the Lamb of God that takes [00:29:37] away the sin of the world so Jesus becomes not only my sacrifice he becomes [00:29:41] my Passover he becomes everything I need and so boom I'm did you get that were [00:29:47] we on there with the glass I'm the shot glass I'm inside I'm in him I'm in Jesus [00:29:55] Christ and so I'm dead I'm dead I'm crucified with Christ nevertheless I [00:30:01] live but how do I live I live by the faith of the Son of God so if I am in [00:30:05] Christ by faith and by his grace and I am in Christ then everything he is is [00:30:13] fulfilled to me that's why you get these scriptures folks and this is how what [00:30:19] not one job to the table everybody talks about these forever laws right the the [00:30:23] Passovers to be done forever and and you know the the I mean some of them are [00:30:28] even going back to killing the lamb on Passover to actually killing the lamb [00:30:31] so they can shed the blood of a lamb on Passover and trying to keep it like [00:30:35] they did in the Old Covenant to me that's blasphemy of what Jesus did [00:30:38] because Jesus fulfilled that he completed that aspect he didn't destroy [00:30:43] it he completed it he perfected it he executed it he satisfied it he filled it [00:30:49] to its full if there's no more you can add to it he did it and so according to [00:30:54] what he has done he is my animals he is my blood sacrifice I don't need the [00:31:02] animal sacrifice he is now my priest after the order of Melchizedek therefore [00:31:07] the Levitical priesthood is done finished done away with disannulled as it says in [00:31:12] Hebrews gone he is according to 1st John 5 he Christ is our Passover so if I'm in [00:31:21] him he is the Lord of the Sabbath he said come into me and I will give you [00:31:25] rest I don't have to keep a certain day to rest Jesus is my rest he is my [00:31:30] Sabbath he is the Lord of the Sabbath he is everything he fulfills if I am in him [00:31:37] and he is in me it the law that he fulfilled the law of Moses he fulfilled [00:31:43] it's fulfilled to me you want you want me to show you yeah and hopefully this [00:31:48] will make sense to somebody out there but you then you if you understand that [00:31:52] then you can go to Romans chapter 8 beautiful passage Romans 8 verse 1 [00:32:04] beautiful there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ [00:32:13] Jesus who walked not after the flesh but after the spirit what are the works of [00:32:18] the flesh Galatians 5 spells is spelled out so he says you don't walk [00:32:21] after those things you don't you don't habitually practice the works of the [00:32:25] flesh so that's the new covenant law the new covenant requirements you can't [00:32:31] be you know a licentious you know apostate so he says there is therefore [00:32:40] now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus who walked not after the [00:32:44] flesh but after the spirit now listen to the verse 2 for the law of the spirit [00:32:49] of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death for [00:32:55] what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh God sending [00:32:59] his own son in the likeness of sinful flesh and foreseen condemned sin in the [00:33:04] flesh what that the righteousness of the law the righteousness of the law with [00:33:11] all the requirements of the Old Testament law the the Mosaic law that the [00:33:16] righteousness of the law might be again here's the word fulfilled in us who [00:33:23] walked not after the flesh but after the spirit so he's clear here that the [00:33:30] law is fulfilled in us if we are in Christ Jesus he fulfilled it if I'm in [00:33:34] him the righteousness of the law is fulfilled now that makes helps you make [00:33:39] sense when you go to Galatians go to Galatians chapter 2 and this is why [00:33:46] it's just beautiful you can just you can be at peace folks it's not about [00:33:51] striving it's not about striving to keep the law it's not about striving it's [00:33:58] not I got these you know 613 laws and then they want to argue well that's [00:34:03] summer for women and summer for men so it's not that you know I don't you know [00:34:08] what I don't care I'm free I have Liberty in Christ Jesus and he says here [00:34:18] look at look at Galatians chapter 2 this is just I mean this is just good [00:34:25] stuff Galatians 2 will go down oh you know and some of this I've read already [00:34:30] but let's let's read it again verse 15 we'll start there so he says we who are [00:34:40] Jews by nature and not sinners of the Gentiles knowing that a man is not [00:34:46] justified made righteous made right with God in right standing with God he says [00:34:51] knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by the faith [00:34:55] of Jesus Christ so folks before I go any further you have to understand he makes a [00:35:00] difference here's the works of the law and he's talking about the law of Moses [00:35:03] and he says and faith he they are contrasted he says a man is not [00:35:10] justified by the works of the law no he's justified by faith they are [00:35:14] exclusive of one another if you if you don't understand that I'm just saying [00:35:18] you just see the spirit of error seducing spirits and doctrines of [00:35:22] devils has a hold of you because the truth is simple here there is [00:35:28] righteousness if you're trying to obtain righteousness by keeping the law no no [00:35:32] he says there is what no man is justified by the works of the law of Moses he says [00:35:38] but by faith of Jesus Christ even we have believed in Jesus that we might be [00:35:45] justified by the faith of Christ what wait a minute by the faith of Christ or [00:35:52] the faith in Christ see he switches it on you and he says first of all he says [00:35:58] you know we're in Christ and then he says oh but if we're in him I don't have to [00:36:04] even live by my own faith I can live by his what I can't do he can do through me [00:36:10] and that's what he says here he says knowing that a man is not justified by [00:36:14] the works of the law but by the faith of Jesus Christ even we have believed in [00:36:20] Jesus Christ that we might be justified by the faith of Christ and not by the [00:36:26] works of the law for the works of the law shall no flesh be justified and then [00:36:34] he says for for if while I seek to be justified by Christ and we ourselves are [00:36:39] found sinners is therefore Christ the minister of sin God forbid for if I [00:36:43] build again the things which I destroyed I make myself a transgressor [00:36:46] he's saying there no I don't get to go live and indulge my flesh no we're not [00:36:52] going back we when you come into Jesus Christ you're a new creature old things [00:36:55] pass away all things become new you don't keep being adultery don't keep [00:36:59] being a drunkard you don't keep being a whore monger as I said what comes to [00:37:03] mind there is that video on that where they define what repentance is where you [00:37:12] they talk about burning down the house oh yeah yeah that comes to mind there [00:37:16] you which you destroyed you burned it down you walked away from it you can't [00:37:20] go back to it right the work the word picture in the paleo Hebrew right yeah [00:37:25] burning down a house so much that you can't go back and live in it anymore [00:37:29] that's what I just that's what come to mind when you're reading that scripture [00:37:32] right there when it says things which I destroyed right right exactly we destroy [00:37:37] you again no one that's a true new covenant New Testament born-again [00:37:42] Christian that is walking in truth believes that you can just live a [00:37:49] rebellious sinful you know life in the flesh according to the flesh you can't do [00:37:56] it and that's what Paul's talking about you know I came out I'm not going to go [00:38:00] back I'm not going to go and indulge the lust of the flesh and then he goes [00:38:04] this now listen verse 19 he says for I through the law am dead to the law that [00:38:10] I might live unto God I am crucified with Christ nevertheless I live yet not I [00:38:17] but Christ liveth in me and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by [00:38:22] the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me I do not [00:38:27] frustrate the grace of God for if righteousness come by the law then [00:38:32] Christ is dead in vain so he's saying here clearly I live now everything I am [00:38:39] I am crucified with Christ I am in him he is in me the life that I now live is [00:38:45] through him so if Jesus fulfilled the law folks he fulfilled the requirements of [00:38:52] the law of Moses I don't have to go back and try to fulfill it if this this [00:38:59] jar that represented the law here is is full I can't there's nothing I can go [00:39:04] back and add any more to it I just have to remain in the one who fulfilled it and [00:39:11] if I live in him if I live in him through faith and I live in with him in [00:39:20] that real genuine born-again relationship then I am the the [00:39:29] righteousness of the law is fulfilled in me not by going back and trying to keep [00:39:33] every jot and tittle it's because he kept it it's because he fulfilled it he [00:39:39] finished it he is everything and see that's the again this is what's so [00:39:45] beautiful about this is the focus is not on what I can do the focus is on [00:39:53] what he did and what he continues to do as long as I believe as long as I [00:40:00] listen to his voice as long as I live with him in this new covenant in this [00:40:08] New Testament in this new I mean I had an argument with the Torah observer right [00:40:16] here standing right here up here beside the podium a couple of Sundays ago and [00:40:21] they kept trying to go the old covenants better I said no the Bible [00:40:26] says the new covenant the better covenant better promises and I am at one [00:40:31] point they just kept rattling about how good it was to go back and keep the law [00:40:34] and I'm like okay I'm not saying the law wasn't good it was good in what it was [00:40:40] purpose to do I said hint but God gave us a new covenant with but then he [00:40:46] called it a new covenant a better covenant with better promises and so [00:40:51] it's better why is it better hey I'm glad I don't have to go you know raise [00:40:57] a lamb and keep it in the house with me as a pet and then kill it on you know [00:41:01] Passover I'm glad I don't have to do this stuff now if I was living under the [00:41:06] old covenant and that's what God required of me before there were there [00:41:09] was no new there was just one covenant I mean there's even some of them [00:41:13] suggesting there's only one covenant and I'm like okay you're really you know [00:41:19] you're really kind of whacked if that's what you think but again I just [00:41:25] wanted to focus in on that Jesus fulfilled the law and so because he [00:41:30] fulfilled the law of the of the blood sacrifices the animal sacrifices he [00:41:34] fulfilled that we don't do that anymore and he he is our Passover the Bible says [00:41:40] he's ever then therefore it means he's our feast Jesus fulfilled the feast he's [00:41:45] all of them he is the Lord of the Sabbath and that's why you see the [00:41:51] apostles in Acts 15 who are walking in Holy Ghost Holy Spirit revelation [00:41:58] knowledge that's why you see them say we're not putting that on the Gentiles [00:42:04] the Gentiles do not the question do the Gentiles have to keep have to be [00:42:09] circumcised and keep the law of Moses and they said no that's not what we put [00:42:14] on them that is not what they're commanded to do we gave no such [00:42:18] commandment and we're not putting that yoke on them that bondage that burden [00:42:22] that we're not going to trouble their souls that's what they said so that's [00:42:26] the decree and if you don't put your Christianity in context then you're [00:42:32] going to end up deceived you're going to end up in bondage you're going to [00:42:35] end up in a system of of legalism where things are being put on you and [00:42:42] required of you that are not required of you and and what I'm finding and I'm [00:42:47] just gonna tell you what I'm finding more than anything else is it's almost like [00:42:51] well you know it's a it's an extreme level of pride and meanness but I want to [00:42:57] remind folks as we as we get into this because we're gonna cover it thoroughly [00:43:03] tonight but let's stop and think about the religious leaders of Israel in the [00:43:11] time Jesus came these were men like Paul or Saul of Tarsus Gomel Nicodemus some [00:43:21] of them their eyes were opened but for the most part you know Annas and [00:43:25] Caiaphas and the rest of the Pharisees and you have to think of it the [00:43:30] scribes the lawyers they knew the scriptures back they knew the Old [00:43:35] Testament backwards and forwards and sideways they knew the law they knew [00:43:40] the prophets they knew it and yet when Jesus came on the scene and he didn't do [00:43:48] everything exactly like they thought he shit they couldn't even handle it when [00:43:53] he was casting out demons what they say oh you're doing that by Beelzebub he [00:43:59] heals a man on the Sabbath stretch forth your hand they went out to see how they [00:44:03] could destroy him I'm just saying that this spirit this Pharisee spirit that's [00:44:10] more focused on trying to keep the letter of the Mosaic law and is missing [00:44:15] the relationship and the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy [00:44:20] Spirit and what we're supposed to be doing setting people free that's why I'm [00:44:26] not gonna spend much more time arguing about this fussing about this or even [00:44:30] teaching about this because you know what I'm gonna do I want to see more [00:44:34] miracles I want to I want to get closer to Jesus I want to get my faith [00:44:38] strong I want to fast and pray I want to seek God until God is moving in [00:44:45] revival again until when I want to see the miracles happening more frequently [00:44:51] and more powerful mirrors like they did when I was younger I mean we're still [00:44:55] seeing people healed and still seeing Jesus do amazing things but it's it was [00:44:59] nothing like it was in the 80s and 90s I mean there was a move of God [00:45:04] happening and again it wasn't in the Hebraic roots movement it wasn't in the [00:45:12] Torah movement it was in these dreadful terrible Sunday churches that the [00:45:19] crippled were walking the blind were seeing the deaf hearing revival [00:45:25] happening millions of people getting saved watching people weep and repent [00:45:31] and be born again I truthfully I don't even know why I'm maybe it's just God [00:45:37] wanted me wanted me to come into this and to at least get this issue clear [00:45:44] from a true New Testament perspective for people out there so they could hear it [00:45:50] and and I don't have to keep dealing with it they can hear they can watch [00:45:53] the videos and listen to the audios and so on down the line I may write [00:45:58] something on it too so it's in print but still you know I want to move on I [00:46:05] want to move on and go deeper in the things of God and see revival I don't [00:46:15] want to just you know I don't want to sit around and get you know have a [00:46:20] people a bunch of people you know that are awakened to what calendar to use so [00:46:26] they know what window I am NOT I don't even know why anybody's interested in [00:46:32] that I would be asking the question why are we not raising the dead Jesus said [00:46:40] the signs he did should should follow those that believe he said the works I [00:46:43] do you should do also John 14 12 are you doing that are you doing it well [00:46:52] I'm jumping ahead of myself I tell you what can we do this we're gonna take a [00:46:56] quick break so I can get me a little drink of water and remove my [00:47:00] illustration before I spill any more red dye my wife please forgive me it really [00:47:07] only got on the towel babe but anyway you're listening to prophecy quake I'm [00:47:11] your host pastor Dean Odell back with you after a little break along with my [00:47:15] co-host pastor Kevin Wilkerson it's good to be back we're gonna jump it jump [00:47:20] into the the Trinity and talk more about the power of the Holy Spirit in a [00:47:23] second but please stay with us it's it's gonna get even better we'll be [00:47:30] right back well let's get back to our study tonight of course if you just joined [00:47:35] us we have been talking about the Torah movement do we are we required to keep [00:47:41] the law of Moses what did Jesus mean when he said I fulfilled the law and so [00:47:47] we talked about that if you missed it you'll have to catch the archive later [00:47:51] on but we're gonna continue on talking about the Trinity and the power of the [00:47:56] Holy Spirit now this is this is some important stuff because when we talk [00:48:02] about the very nature and character of God who he is it's important that we [00:48:08] understand this now granted there's some sometimes some things difficult to [00:48:12] understand about the triune nature of God and but there's some things that [00:48:19] the Bible is it's so clear that we just we have to we have to create we [00:48:26] I don't say create but we have to understand those things in context with [00:48:31] one another so we don't get out there crazy now and now here's some things [00:48:35] that you've got it when we talk about this and the reason I'm bringing this up [00:48:38] is because I've seen some crazy discussion of people who claim to be [00:48:44] Christians especially in the Hebrew roots Torah observance movement man they [00:48:50] have a lot of crazy ideas about who Jesus is a lot of them deny that Jesus [00:48:55] is fully God in the flesh some of them will say no he's God in the flesh but [00:49:02] he's only part of God one of the things I heard recently was that he's the [00:49:08] literal right hand of God that and therefore he's part of God but he's not [00:49:15] basically all of God that is completely false because as we're going to show you [00:49:22] we're gonna go to Colossians chapter 2 and in fact go ahead and go there we'll [00:49:26] go to Colossians 2 the Apostle Paul again by the revelation by the [00:49:32] inspiration of the Holy Spirit said that Jesus Christ of Nazareth the one who [00:49:38] died on the cross and rose from the dead that he is the fullness of the [00:49:44] Godhead bodily fullness now that means complete that doesn't mean he's just the [00:49:50] right hand or that he's just part I heard somebody say that oh Jesus is not [00:49:55] really God he's just a manifestation he's a representative he's he just [00:50:00] represents God and I'm sitting here going you know let's let's just get this [00:50:06] straight there there there's something we we got to get straight and and again [00:50:11] I've said it over and over again but but first I guess I don't want to jump [00:50:15] ahead because again I'm not doing this with notes tonight I'm just doing [00:50:17] this from my memory of the scriptures in this matter but let's look at it this is [00:50:25] Colossians we'll back up and read a few verses before but the whole thing he's [00:50:29] talking about and he's talking about Jesus here and oh we'll just start at [00:50:37] verse 6 he says as you have received as you have therefore received Christ Jesus [00:50:41] the Lord so walk in him so you received him by faith you walk with him by [00:50:46] faith and then he says rooted and built up in him and established in the faith as [00:50:51] you have been taught abounding therein with thanksgiving beware lest any man [00:50:56] spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men after [00:51:01] the rudiments of the world and not after Christ for in him speaking of [00:51:04] Christ Jesus the Messiah for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the [00:51:12] godhead bodily folks I don't know how more you can say that doesn't say he's [00:51:19] just the right hand I mean listen there's some descriptors of Jesus that [00:51:25] are just the you know it the Bible says he's the Lamb of God but does that mean [00:51:31] he's a literal lamb no it's it's figurative language to explain what he [00:51:39] did for us and how the Old Testament shadow of a lamb being slain and the [00:51:43] Passover and the blood on the doorpost and causing the death angel to pass over [00:51:47] and all that and to cover see it okay he's called the Lamb of God it's [00:51:52] figurative language is descriptive language to say he's the right hand of [00:51:56] God is again figurative descriptive language of of what he carries out the [00:52:02] right hand the mighty hand of God carries out the work of God it's a [00:52:06] it's a descriptor but again it's not absolutely literal so if you say that [00:52:12] Jesus is the literal right hand of God and therefore he's only the hand think [00:52:20] about this folks my hand could get cut off and my body would survive you get [00:52:27] I'm saying my hand is important but it is not important it is not fully me [00:52:34] right so this scripture right here destroys that and again that's one of [00:52:41] the leaders of the Torah movement they're one of their brilliant ideas [00:52:48] about the Trinity and again they don't even believe the Holy Spirit they [00:52:51] simply believe the Holy Spirit is the breath of the Father we'll deal with [00:52:54] that in a second too but here here let this sink in this is what the [00:53:06] Apostles taught New Covenant Christianity about who Jesus is the in the very [00:53:11] nature of God it says in him in Christ dwelleth all Kevin does that say all it [00:53:23] does say all and I think it means all let's put that verse back on the screen [00:53:26] right here all for in him in Jesus Christ dwelleth all the fullness of the [00:53:33] Godhead bodily I don't know how you get away with saying he's just the right [00:53:41] hand he's just part of God and that's that was the idea he's just part of God [00:53:48] he's not fully God that's blasphemy that's error that's false doctrine and [00:53:54] I don't care who's teaching it I don't care how popular they are I don't care [00:53:57] how famous they are I don't care about their superstar status it's false Jesus [00:54:04] is the fullness of the Godhead bodily that's why he talks about Jesus is when [00:54:11] you see Jesus he is the fullness of God he is when you see him you've seen you [00:54:18] seeing God now let me let me I mean I mean I could just tell you the truth I [00:54:24] could just camp on this scripture folks if you're confused again about who Jesus [00:54:29] is and in this right here this is a confession of who Jesus is in the [00:54:35] flesh I mean you're getting into the realm of if you don't confess Jesus [00:54:40] Christ the true Jesus Christ as the Bible reveals him as God manifested in [00:54:46] the flesh if you don't believe it you are you have departed from the [00:54:51] foundation one of the very foundations of Christianity you've departed from the [00:54:55] doctrine one of the sound doctrine just period you you you are out there in [00:55:00] your own lala land but Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily now [00:55:06] let's let's remember that we may come back to that in just a second and [00:55:09] look at it I mean you can look up the words it means complete not not part [00:55:14] fullness of the Godhead in bodily form all right so let's let's look at how that [00:55:19] works let's go back to one of the to the to Isaiah 9 6 & 7 and and you know [00:55:27] as I go back here to the Old Testament it can I just make it be known that I [00:55:34] don't hate the Old Testament I've been accused of being a Torah hater that I [00:55:41] hate the Old Testament that I hate the law of the Prophet no I don't hate it I [00:55:46] just know how to put it in its proper place and proper context throw up the [00:55:51] throw throw up the video real quick is people turn to Isaiah 9 6 this this [00:55:58] person here there's a person the Jesus Moses versus Jesus I can't believe this [00:56:07] this this girl I guess she came sent me a friend request and I accepted it on the [00:56:14] flight earth issue and but I've noticed she's been very she's a very radical [00:56:19] Torah pusher and law you know Mosaic law pusher but I've kind of ignored some of [00:56:26] her stuff and you know just I let people stay on if they don't pester me to death [00:56:30] or you know get rude or sarcastic or just attack mode all the time but [00:56:35] anything she didn't put this on mine I just happened to see it in the in the [00:56:40] newsfeed and and basically I hope everybody can see it I mean it's Jesus [00:56:44] walking on the water and then Moses is back there part in the sea and making [00:56:48] Jesus fall down and and I thought about that in and underneath it it says Moses [00:56:53] versus Jesus and she had all these laughing emojis you know with the tears [00:56:56] and and some of her and her Torah friends were just laughing it up and I'm [00:57:00] sitting here going this is truly this reveals the heart and the attitude of so [00:57:07] many people that truly exalt mosaic the mosaic law Moses over Jesus now they [00:57:15] won't admit this this is why this was amazing that they posted this because [00:57:19] this is really blasphemous let me tell you what Moses would be doing Moses would [00:57:23] be bowing at Jesus feet and worshiping him that's what Moses would be doing if [00:57:29] Moses was with Jesus he would be bowing at his feet and worshiping Jesus not [00:57:35] parting the water and making Jesus fall this is such a blasphemous thing [00:57:43] but it lets you know where their heart is it lets you know that they are [00:57:47] exalting Moses over Jesus they're exalting the old covenant law over the [00:57:52] new covenant and this is really where this begins to go it's impossible to see [00:57:57] you can't live under two contracts can't live live under two covenants you have [00:58:02] to choose one of the other and this right here just it says everything I [00:58:08] mean I tell you it's disturbing but I want you to know I don't hate the law I [00:58:16] don't hate the prophets we learn a lot we go back and we read them it's the [00:58:20] shadow it points us to particularly you know the the ceremonies and the rituals of [00:58:26] the law they everything was to point us to Jesus I look like dr. Michael L Brown [00:58:30] who is by the way a Jewish born-again Christian and he says you know that in [00:58:37] and he was talking about the the Torah movement the Hebrew roots movement he [00:58:42] said he said what I see in that movement is so many people get so focused on the [00:58:48] shadow you know the the old covenant types and shadows and the old covenant [00:58:53] laws and ceremonies and rituals he said that they began to lose sight of the [00:58:56] real and the shadow was to lead us to the real substance but after you know I [00:59:01] tell people all the time if I'm using a shadow to find that Jesus's shadow [00:59:07] in that Old Testament that old covenant if I use that shadow and it [00:59:11] leads me to Jesus once I have him do I need the shadow anymore do I want to [00:59:18] embrace him or the shadow and and it again I've said some of these things [00:59:24] before but it's just fine but Isaiah 9 going back to the Trinity so those of [00:59:31] you out there as we're looking at this if you say I hate the Torah I'm a Torah [00:59:37] hater I hate the Old Testament or I hate the law whatever that's not true I [00:59:41] just believe in putting it in its proper place it's proper context and according [00:59:47] to the New Testament the New Testament is now the one in force and it's better [00:59:51] covenant with better promises and so I say that and if you get offended at that [00:59:56] and you have a problem but Isaiah 9 verse 6 now remember we just read [01:00:05] Colossians 2 9 Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead bodily here the prophecy [01:00:13] of him the Old Testament prophet Isaiah declares the same thing let's read it he [01:00:19] says in verse 6 for unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the [01:00:26] government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall be called wonderful [01:00:30] counselor the mighty God the everlasting father and the Prince of Peace of the [01:00:37] increase of his government and peace there shall be no end and upon the [01:00:40] throne of David and upon his kingdom to order it and to establish it with [01:00:44] judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever the zeal of the Lord of [01:00:48] hosts will perform this alright now let's look at this again now literally some [01:00:55] of these Torah observers some of these Hebrew roots people try to say that the [01:01:02] term the mighty God is you know very oh very very widespread it could mean [01:01:12] anything in Hebrew so that they try to diminish that aspect of this when the [01:01:18] Bible calls this son who would be born the mighty God but it's kind of hard to [01:01:23] get away from the fact that this child who was born to be the Savior of all [01:01:30] mankind the Messiah to rule all nations forever that it's kind of hard when it [01:01:36] also calls him the everlasting father kind of hard the eternal father I mean [01:01:45] folks are you seeing this back up to verse 6 there and let's look at it up [01:01:51] on the screen for unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the [01:02:00] government shall be upon his shoulder and he's and his name shall be called [01:02:04] wonderful counselor the mighty God the everlasting father and the Prince of [01:02:12] Peace who is the father well well the Torah people Yahweh is the father well [01:02:22] wait a minute then Yahweh is Jesus and Jesus is Yahweh if you don't understand [01:02:30] that if you don't accept that you are not in true Christianity you are not in [01:02:36] true biblical Christianity you're a heretic you're in false religion [01:02:43] because see all these religions whether it be Islam whether it be Jehovah [01:02:48] Witnesses Mormonism they all attack who Jesus is they all attack and they try [01:02:56] to diminish him as being less than the fullness of the Godhead bodily but the [01:03:03] Bible is clear he's the fullness New Testament Colossians 2 9 he's the [01:03:07] fullness of the Godhead bodily and here it says the son this child who would be [01:03:14] born who would also be called the son his name is also the mighty God and the [01:03:20] everlasting father I talked about this before but of course Isaiah 7 14 talks [01:03:26] about a virgin conceiving and Emmanuel God with us being God with us now [01:03:34] let's understand how this works okay because you have to reconcile two [01:03:40] aspects of the character and nature of God here oh Israel the Lord I got is one [01:03:47] right and the issue of father son and Holy Spirit how do we reconcile this [01:03:56] are there three persons is there one okay now it's it's it's it's really [01:04:06] important we're gonna go to let's get let's go to several more passages here [01:04:10] before we explain the differences here let's go to first of all go to Genesis [01:04:18] 1 verse 26 somebody ought to say this is good stuff we're gonna learn who God is [01:04:28] the character nature of God and then again this is foundational I mean if you [01:04:32] know somebody's confused and messed up about this please get them to listen and [01:04:38] go through these scriptures Genesis 126 all right now you know the very nature of [01:04:46] the word Elohim is plural so the first name we have or the first word that [01:04:53] used to translated God is Elohim which gives you a in the Hebrew a plural [01:04:58] but it doesn't mean many gods I've heard people say talk about this this is pagan [01:05:03] gods it's crazy some of the stuff that's out there but what God is revealing he's [01:05:08] he's in the beginning revealing he is one God but he has three parts I want to [01:05:14] make that clear three parts all right this is where I may differ with [01:05:19] traditional Trinitarian doctrine I think the part the problem is is the [01:05:24] traditional Trinitarian doctrine has said three persons instead of three [01:05:29] parts one one God with three parts and this is very important I'm going to show [01:05:36] you why I had somebody mentioned to me well that's modelism and you're good [01:05:40] that's off now I'm gonna show you why it's not in [01:05:43] modalism because modalism basically says God only manifested himself in three [01:05:50] ways he's just whether it's the father it's a manifestation or the son [01:05:54] it's a manifestation and what they say is basically he's one manifestation at a [01:05:59] time that you know under the Old Testament he manifested himself as the [01:06:03] father when Jesus came to down he manifested himself as the son and [01:06:08] after that when the church was born he manifested himself as the Holy Spirit [01:06:14] and that basically he just manifest himself in these different forms but [01:06:21] that's the only part it's only you know it's only one form at a time that's [01:06:26] what modalism is and we'll put that up in a second you know again no order we're [01:06:32] just going through it tonight all right but Genesis 126 let's look at this this [01:06:37] is what God said God said let us make man in our image right after our [01:06:46] likeness let us I'm sorry I'm getting a little ahead of myself and God said [01:06:50] let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over [01:06:56] the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle and over the [01:06:59] earth and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth verse 27 so God [01:07:05] created man in his own image in the image of God created he him male and [01:07:10] female created he them and God bless them so God created man and he said let us [01:07:14] make man in our own image now again a lot of people trying to take that and [01:07:19] oh there were there were gods plural they made no let's let's look at how this [01:07:24] works so God made man in his own image all right in his likeness so let's go to [01:07:29] first Thessalonians chapter 23 I mean chapter 5 verse 23 first that's on yeah [01:07:36] there's only five chapters first Thessalonians 5 23 because we got a [01:07:43] reconcile all this all right everybody let me get there first Thessalonians 5 23 [01:07:53] all right now let's look at man here what constitutes a man all right 5 23 here's [01:08:04] what Paul said by the Holy Spirit speaking through him and the very God of [01:08:09] peace sanctify you wholly or completely and I pray God your whole spirit and [01:08:15] soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus [01:08:20] Christ so he says to the human beings consist of a spirit a soul and a body now [01:08:27] a lot of you again you've heard me teach this and I want to make it very very [01:08:32] clear here that there are three different words here in the Greek so [01:08:39] the word and I'm just looking at it here on my screen of course I know this [01:08:44] by heart but I've got the blue letter Bible pulled up I've got first [01:08:47] Thessalonians 5 23 so it gives us the multiple lexicons Greek lexicons but we [01:08:54] have three distinct words different words for spirit soul and body a lot of [01:09:01] people believe the spirit and soul the same thing couldn't be further from the [01:09:04] truth they are very different very unique let's look at the the word spirit is [01:09:10] Numa the word soul is sukkah you know it gets kind of crazy with the [01:09:16] pronunciation but sukkah or sukkah kind of where we get our word psyche from but [01:09:22] it's pronounced different in Greek and then the word for body written here is [01:09:26] soma so you have three different words Numa sukkah and soma so three very [01:09:32] different words now let's break it down all right so there's one Dean Odell [01:09:38] there's one Kevin Wilkinson just one there's not three persons you don't [01:09:42] look at me and see three persons I am made Kevin is made we are made in the [01:09:48] image and likeness of God so you there's not three persons please understand that [01:09:54] but we are one person that has three very distinct parts that exist at the [01:10:03] same time that's why this is not modalism that I'm talking about this [01:10:07] is biblical Christianity and so here let me explain this the spirit of man [01:10:13] I'm just talking about mankind human beings right now the spirit we have a [01:10:17] spirit of soul in the body now the spirit contains and you know the Bible [01:10:22] says that God formed Adam from the dust of the ground and he breathed into [01:10:26] Adam and Adam became a living soul so the spirit is the part of God the the [01:10:35] life force of God like people can be for instance let's just explain it this way [01:10:41] you can have someone who's had severe brain trauma now they could be completely [01:10:46] dead in their brain but their body still alive and they're they still have the [01:10:51] life force of their spirit living within them but their brain which would [01:10:56] be their soul and I explained that in a minute too is dead all right but yet [01:11:00] the life force is still there and the body is still and that's why Proverbs 18 [01:11:04] talks about that the spirit of man sustains his infirmity meaning the [01:11:10] spirit is what sustains the flesh your human spirit sustains the flesh that's [01:11:15] why the little girl that was dead that Jesus raised from the dead the little [01:11:19] girl in the moment she he came in there and she I can't remember how long but [01:11:25] she'd been dead for a little while the moment Jesus raised her up and [01:11:29] brought her spirit back into her body and she came back to life he said [01:11:34] Jesus tells them give her something to eat why her flesh had been weakened by [01:11:38] the spirit being out of her body and that is an important truth and we'll get [01:11:44] there's just so much to this but let's just look at so you have the spirit you [01:11:48] have the soul and your body so let's define it the spirit is that life force [01:11:53] of God that he breathed into Adam but Adam became a living soul well the the [01:11:58] soul part is the consciousness the individual unique consciousness that makes [01:12:03] us all different and and very unique the spirit is the area that we have our [01:12:10] conscience the inward ability to just know right and wrong it is the part of [01:12:16] us where intuition lives and dwells where we perceive things it's the area [01:12:22] where we see in the spirit realm we have spiritual eyes spiritual ears we can [01:12:27] pray in the spirit I mean so the spirit man is very very real very tangible and [01:12:34] very alive and and has and that's what when we see in the spirit when we see a [01:12:41] vision or we have a dream that's from God we are seeing into the spirit realm [01:12:46] with our human spirit with our spiritual eyes that's in our human spirit when [01:12:51] God speaks to us and we hear that still small voice that's not audible but [01:12:54] we hear him inside of us Christically we're hearing in the spirit when we pray [01:12:59] in tongues and the gift of tongues it says that our spirit is praying through [01:13:04] us the Holy Spirit with our human spirit and it talks about you know the [01:13:08] Bible talks about when we're saved the Holy Spirit bears witness with our [01:13:11] spirit that we are children of God so where the Holy Spirit works with us [01:13:16] and speaks to us and reveals things to us is in the spirit and then the [01:13:21] spirit transmits it to the soul the soul is the consciousness the mind the will [01:13:28] the emotions it is again it's it's who we are it's it's our uniqueness it's you [01:13:36] know it's kind of like our spiritual DNA it's it makes us different from one [01:13:43] another even though we all kind of look the same and we were the same form we [01:13:46] have you know same physiology basically it's that for men and women a [01:13:51] little different but still what you get that is we're all pretty much we're very [01:13:55] similar but what makes me different from Kevin is not just our looks but that [01:14:01] our soul we have a different consciousness we're different individual [01:14:05] and so and then you know this is this is part of what's driving science crazy [01:14:10] right I was trying to understand the conscious where did the consciousness [01:14:12] comes from and again they can't create that they're trying to create it [01:14:16] through artificial intelligence and all this other stuff but it's uniquely [01:14:20] from God so you have the spirit again where we worship in spirit and truth [01:14:24] where we see the dreams and visions where we have intuition where our conscience [01:14:30] is so you have the spirit Numa then you have the soul the mind the will the [01:14:36] emotions the consciousness and then you have the physical body in which dwell [01:14:41] so you have three very distinct parts as a human being now we'll put this [01:14:46] up here the the people in the occult world in whether it be witchcraft [01:14:51] Satanism Kabbalah you know even the Muslim Sufis the Buddhists the Hindus the [01:15:02] Wiccans they all hadn't understand that there is that that human beings are [01:15:08] these three parts and through meditation through disobeying the Word [01:15:14] of God and getting into vain repetition using visualization using different [01:15:20] techniques that that bring people into disobedience to God remember Jesus said [01:15:25] in Matthew 6 don't use vain repetitions in prayer as the heathen do well these [01:15:30] people learn how in witchcraft to open doors to demons to come in them to help [01:15:36] them form these links between the soul and spirit and most people in the new [01:15:41] age in the occult in witchcraft or in Buddhism or Hinduism or Sufism or the [01:15:48] Kabbalah they've learned to use these all of them very similar techniques of [01:15:53] visualization or chanting or repetitive type prayers but they've learned how to [01:16:00] make this connection and literally what they call astral project or astral [01:16:05] travel now some of them call it soul travel because they don't know the [01:16:09] difference but I mean there's even workbooks the astral projection workbook [01:16:14] to teach you how to have out-of-body experiences these people are having real [01:16:18] experiences they they have tapped into demonic power and occult power and their [01:16:23] spirit will come out of their body and they said they'll see it attached by [01:16:26] this silver cord and they will travel to other places in the spirit while [01:16:31] their body stays in their house or in their bedroom at night or while they're [01:16:36] meditating or whatever they're doing and they will travel Shirley McLean talked [01:16:39] about this in her book out on a limb and at the movie out on the limb I mean [01:16:43] this is this is really one of the pinnacles of of the occult realm in [01:16:51] witchcraft and or new age or enlightenment or you know whatever you [01:16:55] want to call it the this is what they call when they reach this pinnacle of [01:16:59] meditation and this ability to have out-of-body experiences they they call [01:17:06] this reaching your God consciousness and stuff but what I'm getting at is they [01:17:10] understand and they practice the spirit leaving the body there that this part [01:17:16] of the three parts of the human being can actually separate and we see this [01:17:24] in the Bible we see God doing this with Ezekiel we see God doing this with [01:17:28] Paul he talked about being absent in the flesh but present in the spirit [01:17:32] beholding what they were doing God took Ezekiel says he took his spirit out of [01:17:37] him and took him you know from he's his bodies in Babylonian captivity and then [01:17:42] but he takes him to Jerusalem in the spirit his spirit to Jerusalem and [01:17:46] shows him what's going on in the temple so and anybody that's come out of [01:17:52] the occult deeply involved in the occult knows what I'm saying is true [01:17:56] well the Bible talks about to be absent with the bodies to be present with the [01:18:00] Lord you know there's so many phrases and and this is how I explain it to you [01:18:05] know when a Christian if you're born again and you die then your body goes in [01:18:12] the grave and your spirit and soul come out of your body separate and go to be [01:18:20] with the Lord until the resurrection your body is sleeping in the dust the [01:18:25] earth I don't believe in soul sleep your body is asleep and at the resurrection [01:18:29] when Jesus returns he awakens the body is changed in the moment the twinkling of [01:18:35] an eye the dead in Christ rise first and what happens is you are given a new [01:18:39] resurrected glorified body that will once again reunite with the other two [01:18:45] parts of you your spirit and soul you will be whole you are going to be [01:18:48] redeemed spirit soul and body you're gonna be made whole again and given a [01:18:53] body like Jesus has that will live eternal remember when Jesus rose from the [01:18:57] dead they could come and feel him he said it's his body it was his body that [01:19:02] had the nail prints and the wound in his side but his body was physical he [01:19:07] ate food with him but it was supernatural he could walk through walls [01:19:10] with it it was different a little different glorified resurrected you know [01:19:15] eternal so what I'm getting at is the three parts even of a human being can [01:19:21] separate out at times and then be reunited well it's the same way with the [01:19:26] Godhead God is one he is one person okay but he has three parts and I'm gonna [01:19:35] show it to you like a spirit a soul and a body because okay I mean just call me [01:19:42] crazy but if the Bible tells me I'm made in his image and I'm made in his [01:19:49] likeness then then we have to be alike at least in the sense of the basics of [01:19:56] how we're made three in one all right this is the way I see it which is is [01:20:02] beautiful okay you have the father again what Jesus always talked about doing the [01:20:09] will of the father well the Christian could or should always say that you know [01:20:14] what the will the will or the the decision you know we're not going to let [01:20:19] the flesh do what it wants to do but we're gonna bring that under control [01:20:25] through knowledge and through faith and we're gonna bring that into control and [01:20:30] we're not gonna let the flesh do what it wants to do so therefore the flesh or [01:20:34] the physical part should be in submission to the soul and to the spirit [01:20:37] but I look at it this way you have the soul which I will say is the the [01:20:42] father part he determines he's the consciousness the intellect the will [01:20:48] right the emotions you have the Holy Spirit well that's evident that is the [01:20:54] Spirit of God he has a spirit and a soul but the physical manifestation when God [01:21:02] took on a physical body I believe the word was the expression or the outward [01:21:09] manifestation Jesus but when Jesus became God became flesh literally the [01:21:18] Father the Holy Spirit they are one that's why in John 14 when Philip says [01:21:28] you know okay Jesus you say you're going away we don't even understand that we [01:21:34] don't know where you're going but show us the father and it will suffice us it [01:21:38] will satisfy us and Jesus turns and says have I now been with you so long a [01:21:45] time Philip and you have not known me and then he says to him if you've seen [01:21:51] me you've seen the father now that is impossible if you say Jesus is just and [01:22:04] if he's just a representative of God or he's just the literal right hand no if [01:22:16] he if he was just a literal right hand you'd say Philip if you've seen me you've [01:22:21] seen the right hand of the father it's not what he said if you've seen me you've [01:22:26] seen the father Isaiah 9 6 says his name will be called wonderful counselor [01:22:30] the mighty God the Everlasting Father the Prince of Peace if you've seen me [01:22:36] you've seen the father Jesus is the fullness of the God hit bodily when we [01:22:42] look at Jesus we are seeing the fullness of God in physical form we are [01:22:50] seeing the father the Holy Spirit in human form fleshly form so to say that [01:23:01] Jesus is anything else is a lie deception of the devil the devil knows [01:23:08] this the devil knows who he is the devil knows Yahweh is Jesus and Jesus is Yahweh [01:23:15] the devil knows God is one but has three distinct parts he's not three gods [01:23:22] different gods he has three distinct very distinct parts that can separate out [01:23:30] from the one and do the different things that God wants done the fullness [01:23:41] can everybody say amen to that I mean I guess I get really fired up when I hear [01:23:52] anyone begin to diminish Jesus because that's really the spirit of Antichrist [01:24:00] the spirit of Antichrist always want to take Jesus is here and always wants [01:24:06] to take him down here if you do that if you say Jesus is anything but the [01:24:11] fullness of the God had bodily that he's anything but the mighty God the [01:24:15] Everlasting Father the Prince of Peace if you say no he's only part of God or [01:24:19] he's a manifestation of God or a representative of God or he's just the [01:24:24] Son of God he's not really God the Father that they're completely separate [01:24:27] beings you are deceived you are deceived and you are diminishing the [01:24:36] very character nature of God you are basically preaching another Jesus and [01:24:40] another in there's only one there's only one true Jesus he is God in the flesh he [01:24:46] is the wonderful counselor the mighty God the Everlasting Father the Prince of [01:24:50] Peace the fullness of the Godhead bodily as he and he in that and this is the [01:24:56] only way it makes sense when Jesus would say if you've seen me you've seen the [01:24:59] Father that Father Holy Spirit and the manifestation in the flesh fully God [01:25:09] standing there fully God not a part not a representative not an emanation not [01:25:17] just a manifestation Jesus Christ of Nazareth is fully Yahweh in the flesh [01:25:25] and that's why the name of Jesus is lifted up above every name think about [01:25:33] that Torah folks you love using YHVH you love using the name Yahweh you [01:25:42] love using these names the name of Jesus Christ the name of Jesus if you want to [01:25:50] say Yeshua fine I don't care but that name is above every name it is above Yahweh [01:25:57] it is above El Shaddai it is above Elohim it is above every name why why when [01:26:05] God says that name is above every name when the scriptures say that Philippians [01:26:09] to that the name of Jesus is above every name every name means every name why is [01:26:16] that because the father is just apart the son is just apart the Holy Spirit is [01:26:25] apart but all the fullness when they are fully united manifesting what do you [01:26:34] see you're looking you're looking at Jesus I know I and again I don't care [01:26:42] you crazy people that want to believe all this nonsense you want to be deceived [01:26:46] go right ahead I serve one God not three gods yet he has three distinct parts and [01:26:58] he told me I was made in his image there's one Dean not three Dean's [01:27:03] there's one Dean well who was Jesus praying to people always start leaning [01:27:08] to their own their owners who was he talking to I tell them all the time [01:27:16] you talk to yourself people talk to themselves all the time sometimes you're [01:27:23] giving yourself a pep talk sometimes you're beating yourself up with [01:27:25] condemnation sometimes you're thinking out loud you're talking about you're [01:27:30] trying to figure things out and guess what the flesh communicates with you [01:27:34] doesn't it the flesh will tell you I want to get drunk and then the you [01:27:39] know that's the flesh wants to do things that it's not supposed to do and [01:27:46] they'll tell you I want I want 12 beers right now and you go no you can't have [01:27:53] it there's a war there's a conversation going on all the time and so that's why [01:28:00] you the verse makes sense when you think of it that way let us make man in our [01:28:05] image this conversation God was having with [01:28:09] himself simple it's not complicated but again what do you have to do to [01:28:20] establish doctrine you have to put the scriptures together and I want to tell [01:28:31] you something let's my phone's going off the by you know we'll deal with that in a [01:28:38] minute I hope I hope this clear you think it I mean I hope I've made this [01:28:46] clear put up the modalism because let's deal with that because at times [01:28:50] you know I've had some people say oh you're getting you're getting close to [01:28:54] modalism or modalism I don't even know how exactly you pronounce it okay this [01:28:58] one here this is from you know a website but it was a good a good definition and I [01:29:03] want to read it so that people understand where I'm coming from here [01:29:07] modalism is probably this is what they say the most common theological error [01:29:12] concerning the nature of God it is a denial of the Trinity modalism states [01:29:17] that God is a single person who throughout biblical history has revealed [01:29:21] himself in three modes or forms thus God is a single person who first manifested [01:29:27] himself in the mode of the father in the Old Testament times at the incarnation the [01:29:31] mode was the Sun and after that Jesus ascension the mode is the Holy Spirit [01:29:37] these modes are consecutive and never simultaneous now see this is the key [01:29:42] the key to what is modalism is it says that these manifestations are always [01:29:50] one at a time that that God doesn't exist doesn't have three distinct parts [01:29:56] that exist at the same time so you can see where there's a little different I [01:30:01] have a little different view than than traditional Trinitarian that says three [01:30:05] persons I think that is incorrect and I think it's wrong to say that because [01:30:10] you give the impression to Jews and Muslims and all this that Christians are [01:30:15] polytheists that we have three we have three persons that we look to as as [01:30:22] gods but that's not the way it is at all we believe in one God with three [01:30:27] distinct parts that exist together at the same time and can separate out and [01:30:35] be distinctive but not but that would that would be again that would be like [01:30:40] my spirit doing something my soul doing something my body doing something it's [01:30:49] it's not manifestations it's three distinct parts together is one let's keep [01:30:55] reading he said let me see where I left off here says these modes are [01:31:02] consecutive and never simultaneous this is in in modalism or modalism however [01:31:07] they say it in other words this view states that the father son and Holy [01:31:11] Spirit never all exists at the same time only one after another modalism [01:31:16] denies the distinctiveness of the three persons in the Trinity even though it [01:31:21] retains the divinity of Christ so again I think you know how you said pastor [01:31:27] Dean you may be splitting hairs a little bit but I think it's important to [01:31:31] understand biblically the Lord is one one Lord one faith one baptism [01:31:36] Ephesians says in Ephesians 4 one Lord one faith one baptism yet when he says one [01:31:41] baptism there's multiple baptisms talked about the [01:31:46] baptism and water the baptism and fire the baptism of the Holy Spirit [01:31:50] and these are different so what is he saying there's one baptism [01:31:53] three manifestations of that baptism it's interesting one Lord [01:31:57] three distinctive parts of one Lord but he's one [01:32:01] he's one and when you see Jesus you see the father [01:32:04] you see the Holy Spirit fully in in him and that's why that's why Jesus [01:32:11] made statements like that he you know in John [01:32:13] the gospel of John that he had the Holy Spirit without measure [01:32:17] why because he's fully God fully God there was no [01:32:22] no measuring out there was no just anointing he was not [01:32:26] just part of God fully the father fully the son fully the Holy Spirit all [01:32:32] at one time manifesting physically in this world [01:32:38] born of a virgin lived a sinless life God manifested in the [01:32:44] flesh now we won't put up the other one it says [01:32:50] pretty much the same thing I was going to even go to another [01:32:54] definition of about it but I hope everybody understands [01:32:57] that I'm putting a little distinctive here tonight between persons the the [01:33:03] phrase persons and the phrase parts I think that [01:33:06] that's where I stand modalism I don't believe it's just [01:33:10] God manifest one way at one time I think that is error I think that [01:33:15] aspect of modalism that there's not three distinct parts in [01:33:19] existence at the same time that that's not true but anyway [01:33:24] Jesus is God in the flesh now let's let's let's jump over to this [01:33:29] I want us to go to Matthew chapter 11 real quick we got about [01:33:34] 10 minutes and man time I I guess I've forgotten [01:33:39] it's flying man it's flying by tonight Matthew 11 [01:33:45] because I want to I want to say this about this look folks [01:33:50] the the power of God the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives [01:33:54] so vitally important Mark 16 we're going to go to that in a second [01:34:00] I'm tired of people using Matthew 7 as an excuse to be powerless [01:34:06] you know there's going to be people yes who cast out demons and healed the sick [01:34:10] and did many mighty miracles who are going to backslide fall away [01:34:14] from God and live according to the lust of the [01:34:16] flesh and they're going to hear the words depart from me [01:34:19] you you lawless ones because you you went and lived according to what [01:34:23] Galatians 5 said you shouldn't live in [01:34:25] as a new testament Christian but at one point they had lived for Jesus and [01:34:28] cast out demons and healed the sick yeah that's going to happen [01:34:31] but you folks had always when somebody starts talking about you know [01:34:34] what the church should should be full of power if you're going to do the [01:34:37] works of Jesus you should be doing the works that he did of power [01:34:43] and you you pull out Matthew 7 that's kind of your scapegoat to try to get out [01:34:47] of are we powerless you know I love doing [01:34:51] this to Jehovah witnesses because you know [01:34:53] they've got their screwed up new world translation [01:34:55] and they'll come to the door and I'll chat with them a little bit because [01:34:58] they don't believe Jesus is God in the flesh and they don't believe in hell [01:35:01] and and of course they don't they don't have the power of God the power [01:35:04] of the Holy Spirit in the church because they're in the spirit of error they're [01:35:07] they're deceived and of course they're trying to keep the [01:35:10] Sabbath too they think that's important of meeting on Saturday and [01:35:13] I mean it's just wild but they'll come to the door and I'll always talk to them [01:35:17] now I won't invite them in and I won't bid them godspeed [01:35:19] because they're in false doctrine but I will talk to them and try to [01:35:23] get them to leave their deception and their false religion [01:35:27] and so I'll talk to them about the scriptures and I'll use their Bible [01:35:30] and prove Jesus is God and hell but what I love to do and because [01:35:35] they always have an experienced one and an inexperienced one [01:35:38] you know they're trying to train one always and I love getting them to turn [01:35:42] in their new world translation because they don't take out all [01:35:45] the good stuff and I get them to turn to mark 16 15 [01:35:49] through 20 why don't you put that one up if you would [01:35:52] mark 16 15 through 20 and I'll say read this to me and I'll get them to [01:35:55] open in their Bible and say read this to me right here [01:35:59] and and every church should do this and this is what Jesus said and he said to [01:36:05] them go you into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature [01:36:09] he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved [01:36:13] but he that believeth not shall be damned [01:36:16] now I wasn't believe here he that believeth [01:36:20] shall be saved not he that keeps the law of Moses but he that believeth [01:36:23] shall be saved he that believes not shall be damned eternal damnation [01:36:27] going to hell and these signs shall follow them that believe [01:36:31] in my name shall they cast out they shall cast out devils [01:36:36] they shall speak with new tongues that's supernatural tongues [01:36:40] they shall take up serpents those are demon spirits take authority take [01:36:43] dominion and if they drink any deadly thing it [01:36:46] should not hurt them it doesn't mean you tempt god go out and try to do it [01:36:50] but if someone tries to poison you and that's going to come in handy in these [01:36:54] days of gmo food and polluted water you [01:36:57] better be praying over stuff but then he says they shall lay hands on [01:37:01] the sick and they shall recover let's keep reading [01:37:05] it says so then after the lord spoken had spoken unto them [01:37:09] he was received up into heaven and sat on the right hand of god [01:37:14] and the lord um and they went forth and preached everywhere the lord working [01:37:18] with them confirming the word with signs following [01:37:22] now this is new testament christianity this is the great commission [01:37:26] i know that there are uh footnotes and some people's bibles and some say that [01:37:31] that's that wasn't in the oldest manuscript yes it was [01:37:34] just stop with that nonsense um this is clearly this this teaching in [01:37:40] in uh mark 16 is clearly confirmed by what [01:37:44] jesus said john 14 6 verily verily i send you [01:37:47] the works i do you shall do also and even greater works in these [01:37:51] jesus sent us to heal the sick cast out demons to work miracles [01:37:55] saw down the line to do the works he did now [01:38:00] matthew chapter 11 i had you you turn there [01:38:03] because you know i have people all the time well [01:38:07] this issue of holy ghost power is not important [01:38:10] and i'm quickly running out of time but let me let me deal with this [01:38:14] look at matthew 11 verse 1 it says and it came to pass [01:38:18] when jesus had made an end of commanding his 12 disciples he departed [01:38:21] thence to teach and preach in their cities [01:38:24] now when john this is john the baptist had heard in prison the works of christ [01:38:28] he sent two of his disciples and he said in him art thou he that should come [01:38:32] or do we look for another so the question john the baptist was having a [01:38:36] moment of doubt he was having a moment of [01:38:37] is this the guy is this really is jesus christ [01:38:41] is of nazir is he really the messiah and so he sends people says are you the [01:38:45] the one or should we look for another what does jesus say here [01:38:48] he said did you see me keeping the sabbath did you see me doing this did [01:38:51] you see me doing that no this is what he says [01:38:54] and jesus answered and said unto them go and show john again [01:38:58] those things which you do here and see the blind receive their sight [01:39:02] and the lame walk and the lepers are cleansed the deaf here and the dead [01:39:06] are raised and the poor have the gospel preached [01:39:08] unto them and blessed is he whosoever should not be offended in me [01:39:12] so immediately when j when john the baptist asked are you the one [01:39:16] are you the messiah or do we look for another what does jesus appeal to [01:39:21] he says do you see go tell him [01:39:25] the blind receive their sight physically blind people receive their sight [01:39:31] the lame walk the lepers are cleansed the deaf here the dead are raised [01:39:36] and then we have you know second timothy chapter three [01:39:41] that basically says we should walk away from powerless christianity [01:39:45] if we go to a place and nothing ever happens no one ever gets healed no [01:39:48] demons are ever cast out nothing nothing supernatural paul told [01:39:56] timothy from such turn away let's look at it second timothy three this is what [01:40:05] we're close with he says in the last days perilous times [01:40:08] will come he gives you that whole thing i'm not going to go lovers of their own [01:40:12] proud blasphemers he goes through all that and he gets to verse five [01:40:16] and he says having a form of godliness but denying the power [01:40:22] thereof from such turn away now the word form means you have an [01:40:27] outward appearance that you are righteous and godly and holy [01:40:31] you have an outward form but you deny that means to reject disavow [01:40:39] to not put as important the power the word power in the [01:40:47] greek is dunamis which means the supernatural miraculous power of the [01:40:52] holy spirit so folks i would ask you something does [01:41:02] your church have any power in it does your church your fellowship is your [01:41:10] rabbi casting demons out getting anybody healed [01:41:14] delivered from demons miracles the crippled walking the blind seeing the [01:41:18] deaf hearing don't don't diminish that if you diminish [01:41:22] that you get a problem because no man jesus said no man couldn't do a miracle [01:41:26] in his name that can likely speak evil on him [01:41:28] so what i'm saying is is as a true minister that's preaching the gospel [01:41:33] should never be against casting out demons and healing the sick [01:41:38] cleansing the leopard raising the dead and i'm going to tell you [01:41:43] those miracles and the gifts of the holy spirit and the power of the holy spirit [01:41:47] work by faith not by the works of the law [01:41:50] elation 3 so tonight i want to tell you i hope [01:41:56] hopefully you'll understand that it's more important [01:42:02] you know jesus put forth the the man with the withered hand on the [01:42:06] sabbath day they were looking at him are you going to heal on the sabbath [01:42:09] day they just couldn't wait and jesus said [01:42:13] is it lawful to do good or to do evil in the sabbath day they wouldn't answer [01:42:17] they were more concerned about keeping the sabbath or jesus keeping the sabbath as [01:42:21] they thought he should instead of this man who needed a [01:42:25] miracle who needed healing and it made jesus angry [01:42:31] go read and mark the gospel of mark folks i'm gonna tell you you should be [01:42:37] more concerned do you have the power of god working [01:42:40] through your life the power of the holy spirit [01:42:42] do you speak in tongues do you lay hands on the sick do you cast out [01:42:44] demons have you been filled with the holy [01:42:47] ghost are you operating the gifts of the [01:42:50] spirit if not i don't want to hear it i don't [01:42:53] want to hear you're arguing over the law show me some power show me [01:43:04] some priorities you talk about we ought to walk as he walked [01:43:10] walk in power of the holy ghost we're out of time folks [01:43:17] maybe we'll talk more about this later you've been listening to the prophecy [01:43:20] quake i'm your host pastor dino along with [01:43:22] kevin wilkinson we love y'all hope you've been blessed good to be [01:43:27] back see you sunday morning 11 a.m god bless