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So I would like to invite the
fellows to come and join me

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here for a Q&A. So
please, come up.

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While they come here,
what is your takeaway?

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What is your first
word that comes

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to mind to what you heard?

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This is a lot of
information to take in.

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Anyone wants to
share any thought?

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What comes to mind?

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It's fun.

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Say again.

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Fun.

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Fun?

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Yeah?

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Fun.

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What else?

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You can do this.

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You are very diverse,
multidiscipline collaboration.

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Very diverse, multidisciplinary
collaboration.

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One more.

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Fun, multidisciplinary
collaboration,

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and what else do
you see or hear?

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Go ahead.

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Inclusivity.

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Inclusivity.

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Yeah.

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Would you agree?

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Yeah?

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So before I kind of
hand it over to you

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guys again, and maybe,
my question to you--

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because this has been
amazing for me to see this.

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Because I'm not classically
trained as a designer.

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I just kind of became a
designer in my old age.

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So for me, having the
opportunity to see all of you

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present what you do
with your background,

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it makes me-- actually, the
word that I was thinking about

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was optimism.

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Because when I hear
you talk, I believe

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that we will have a
good world going forward

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if we have enough of you
working on these solutions.

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And so my question, maybe, to
all of you in the beginning

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is, why design?

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What has design to offer?

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Talked a lot about
AI and technology,

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and it's all going to be really,
really important going forward,

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but what is it about design that
allowed you to do what you do?

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So if we go with you first.

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Go ahead.

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Sure, yeah.

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Microphone.

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Yeah, so I mean, I think
a really important aspect

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of design as a
method is just like,

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the speculative nature of it.

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I think we get to
kind of look at what

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exists today, and also,
imagine how things could

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be otherwise, and use
both what exists today,

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and clearly articulated sets
of values to kind of drive

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that speculation
in a grounded way.

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Yeah, I think that's just
a really exciting mode

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to be thinking in.

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And like you said, gives
me a lot of optimism.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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To me, when I
think about design,

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I think of it as like a
process or a way of thinking.

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And I think that's where,
really, the optimism can

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come through, where a lot of our
training is to think about the

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why, the how, the what.

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Like, why are
people doing things?

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What is going on here?

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How can we be doing things
better, as Jonathan said.

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And so, I think it's that
process and way of thinking

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where the training,
doing that for many years

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over and over becomes very,
very useful and kind of becomes

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instinctive, where you're
just kind of always asking,

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how could I be
doing things better?

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What exactly is going
on, and all of that.

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It becomes a part of your DNA.

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I see that.

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I personally use
design in my own life,

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just like, making a decision,
just from my day-to-day.

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My day-to-day, too Justin?

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I think building off of that, I
think people design every day,

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whether they consider
it design or not.

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And people engage
with design every day,

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whether it's the
doorknob you grab,

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or what you're sitting
on, the chairs.

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But to have the opportunity to
sort of hone that intuition in

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and point it out a problem
that's really worth solving

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is kind of super
important, and empowering,

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and like you were
saying, optimistic.

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Yeah.

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What is it maybe, just
a follow-up on this,

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what is it about design that
makes us say things like this,

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that design is a
part of every day?

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What is it specifically about--

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is it the process?

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Is it the mindset?

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Is it both?

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Is it the daring nature
of designers, or, to you,

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what is it that makes
you see design as--

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and you mentioned it, too, it's
a part of your everyday life.

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What is it
specifically, you think?

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I mean, I think it is
that range of possibility

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that you can have to sort
of alter something and make

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it more specific to yourself
versus somebody else.

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Yeah.

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And kind of-- yeah, the range
of possibilities that people

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can kind of have the effect
on their environment, I think,

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is super important.

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Yeah.

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And one size fits all is not
a part of that equation-- what

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I could hear over and over again
through your presentations.

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Thank you.

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So--

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Oh, goodness.

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I think they already did
such a great job answering.

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Let me think of
something clever to say.

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Yeah, pressure's on.

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[LAUGHTER]

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I think-- I really like what all
three of them said because, I

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think, sort of a designer
mindset to me is--

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it-- you're just
situated in a place

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of what could be right-- and
maybe even more strongly, what

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ought to be.

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I think we're often trying to
develop or design artifacts.

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And artifacts can be
enormously powerful things

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because they're implicitly
encoding a set of values.

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And then when those artifacts
go out into the real world,

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they have an effect, right?

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Whether that's in the uptake of
those artifacts, in which case,

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then your values are getting
propagated, or in the effects

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that those artifacts
have in society.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, great.

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Brilliant.

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Yes, and it gets harder--

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I know!

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It's not fair!

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Sheila, the pressure
was all on you.

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But I-- so I will add--

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I think these are wonderful.

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And I think, for me, the
exciting part design,

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in addition to everything
that's been said,

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is really the people part.

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I'm a human-centered
design person.

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And I think understanding--
the opportunity understand

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people's needs and
thinking about how

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you can fix them is
a-- or address them--

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is such a powerful thing.

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It makes it very motivating,
the social impact--

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all that.

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So I think that's exciting too.

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That's a way to live a life.

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Yeah, yeah!

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It's the optimism to having that
empowerment, just from within,

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to be able to actually do
something about something.

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That's what I hear over and over
again in your presentations.

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You just decided to do something
about it, which I love.

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Perfect.

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Sheila?

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Well, this is kind of funny
because I actually am a--

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I am a designer.

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[LAUGHS] Let's see.

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I think that the
Morningside Design

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Academy is, as John said,
trying to elevate design.

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And so you might ask,
well, what does that mean?

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Do we want to rarify it?

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Of course not.

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But I think we
want to open it up

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as a methodology
that's accessible

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across disciplines-- for
scientists, for musicians,

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for engineers, for everyone.

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And so that is a process of
opening up and showing people

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what's possible by espousing
these ways of thinking,

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ways of critical thinking.

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Because I'll just
answer this as briefly

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as I can, but in
today's world, we

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have a number of big challenges
that everybody is aware of--

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climate being one.

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Maybe the prevalence
of clients--

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let's call them-- for
institutions like MIT

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that are large corporations.

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And the last thing
that we want is

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engineers or scientists
or professionals

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of any sort who
would just blindly do

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what a powerful company
asks them to do.

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And of course, with AI,
that's even more apparent.

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But there are many other things.

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So this capacity for
critical reflection

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and for iteration, for
prototyping, what you're saying

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is very important, and it
never has been more important.

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I would just add
that it's the same,

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but within design education and
the Department of Architecture

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in the School of
Architecture and Planning,

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where we have been working
with these design methodologies

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for a long time-- in fact, MIT
is the first and oldest school

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of architecture
in this country--

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we have a slightly
different challenge.

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We don't need to necessarily
elevate or make visible design

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because it already exists.

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It's what we're doing.

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But we do need to
think about how

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to implement design
education, make it relevant,

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and in some ways, make it real.

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So we need all of our
abilities and expertise

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to anticipate problems that
might occur in making something

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like a pop-up
kitchen and then try

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to solve for those
before they occur.

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So that we have a
better chance of being

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successful in that
implementation or realization.

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So I think that the way in
which design education itself

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is unfolding is changing.

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Yeah.

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Wonderful, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Maybe you're just thinking.

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So now the pressure is on you--

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any burning questions you have.

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What do you think?

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, I have a question-- sorry.

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There's a mic coming your way.

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[LAUGHS]

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Thanks.

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Yeah, thank you.

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I have a question for Jana.

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Thank you very
much for your talk.

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It was very inspiring
to see somebody talk

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about generative design.

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It's the topic of
my PhD research,

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so I'm very committed to that.

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At the end of your
talk you mentioned

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that we as designers have to
account for biases in our work,

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or as it had been put, the
encoding of a set of values

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in an artifact.

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So I wonder how you
understand generative design

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as a possibility to
critically engage

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with this encoding of these
values in an artifact.

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So how can generative design
as a design process compare

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to other ways of design, help
you to negotiate these biases

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that you produce as a designer,
willingly or unwillingly?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for the
question, and I'm also

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committed to generative
design, as it is also

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my PhD dissertation.

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But yeah, I think what
the generative design tool

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is capable of doing is really--

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and I see this over
and over again,

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where it gives you a set of
results where you're like,

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oh, I didn't think of that.

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It switches the way you
were thinking about thing--

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or maybe showing
you certain designs

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that you didn't consider
exploring before.

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Or oftentimes, where it shows
that maybe your assumptions are

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incorrect.

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You do know maybe the
set of constraints,

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and you think, oh, it's probably
going to look like this.

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And then all the designs
that come out actually

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are, like, the opposite shape.

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And then you realize,
oh, these constraints

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that I have are affecting the
geometry in different ways

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than I thought it would.

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And so it has that ability to--

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that learning ability that I
talked about to really showcase

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how the things are different
than your own assumptions

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that's number one.

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I think number two, also,
is, the more you use this

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and the more you understand
how the tools work

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and how they could
be used creatively,

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the more you'll start to try
to explore different avenues.

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So start to say, like,
OK, these are the designs

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that I've looked at.

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I think if I tried
to map all of these,

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I notice there's a
spot that's missing.

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And so I'll have more
time when I'm doing design

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where a lot of
the task of trying

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to create these geometries
gets lifted from the designer

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into this generative
design tool.

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You have that time to try
to think more critically

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about what have I explored
and what have I not explored.

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And so trying to extend
beyond your own assumptions

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and your own biases.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Go ahead.

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The mic is traveling.

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Hi, thank you all for
your presentations.

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I just want to ask
something that's--

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it's been on my mind lately,
that I've just come off fresh

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from, like, space weeks,
one at Harvard, one at MIT.

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And you know they
recently announced--

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I think London announced
a bid, a tender,

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to build a nuclear
reactor on the moon.

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And my first kind
of-- my first reaction

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was, like, my god, and
kind of crumbled inwards.

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And I'm sure that it's, like--

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just extremely exciting
technological problem.

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And that kind of techno
optimism is so ripe here at MIT.

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And we think so much
about design education

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as equipping people
with the tools

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and the skill sets
to go out and create.

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And sometimes, I
think, actually,

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that there is merit in stopping
and staying with the trouble

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and staying with that
horrible feeling and saying,

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we won't, we choose
not to design,

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and we choose to sort
of have a moratorium.

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And I wonder to some extent,
what about design education's

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responsibility to
enable designers

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to develop that kind
of intuition that says,

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we're choosing not to?

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Hmm, what an
interesting question.

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Yeah, that is a super big
technological challenge,

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[LAUGHS] if that's on the
moon with that gravity.

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Anyway, I think your
question is a great one.

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Thank you for it.

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I think it's a question
that gives us a kind of time

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to reflect that it's not
about doing more and more.

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And I was simply
going to point you

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to some reading on
de-growth, which

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you might be familiar with.

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But just in a nutshell, the
movement around de-growth

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actually started with
some papers and thoughts

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in the Netherlands.

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Actually, it has a
history before that,

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but it became popular
right around the time

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of the pandemic.

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And Andreas Malm and
others have written that--

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reminded us that de-growth
is not no growth.

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It's not designing nothing.

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It's choosing which of
our institutions, which

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of our aspects and projects
are most in need of growth,

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and putting our design
effort or our focus there.

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And choosing, conversely, to
slow down or stop or refuse

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to design for institutions--
and this is classically

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in the de-growth theory.

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That's classically large banks,
corporations, and other things

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like that, that are
already amply grown

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and are insisting on
more and more growth

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as a measure of success.

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So sometimes you think de-growth
is nothing, but it's not.

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It's actually choosing
really carefully for whom

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and how and what materials
you use when you do

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choose to design.

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Yeah.

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So actually, just
to add on that,

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I think one of the
things that is related

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to this about
education in general

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is the fact that having the
ability to think critically,

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to your point, really
appreciate your question,

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because I think
one of the things

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that a designer does naturally
is to really think critically.

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Because we have to draw on
all these different knowledge

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bases, if you will.

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We have to work
across disciplines,

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as you all demonstrate.

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So having the
ability to actually

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make a decision, actually having
the ability to make a choice,

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I think that's, to me,
is one of the biggest

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benefits of everybody having
that access to educational--

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to design learning.

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Because to me, it's
not about the artifact.

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It is actually about
the decision making.

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Because as you design.

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You make million little
decisions every day, all day.

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OK, next one.

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There we go.

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Thank you all for
your presentations.

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In practice, I think
one of the things

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I've found the most
frustrating with design

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is that using the results of
your exploration to completely

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circle back and
reframe the problem

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is very rarely planned for,
supported, funded, anything.

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I just haven't found
whether, working

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in government or
corporation, academia,

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I haven't come to
a place yet where

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that's really built in as
part of the design process.

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So I'm curious to know what
each of your experiences

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has been in, as you go through
your own version of the design

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process, how has it brought
you to maybe realize,

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like, we're asking the
wrong question entirely.

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And then the second part is--

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something that's on my
mind right now is also--

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like, I call myself a
reformed engineer [LAUGHS]

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because engineering is like,
we build it because we can.

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And design is like,
but should we?

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And so how do you map for
the adjacent consequences?

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And how do you map
for potential harm?

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As you learn more about the
space and going forward,

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do you have frameworks?

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Do you have processes
to navigate that?

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Who wants to go first?

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I can take a stab
at that last part.

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So in terms of frameworks, I
think there's one that's-- that

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I personally use and
I find very helpful--

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is the Design Justice
Network frame--

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which has this framework of
design justice principles

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of, again, asking
those questions of,

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what are the impacts of what--

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that I'm designing?

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Should I even be designing this?

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Who am I including in
the design process?

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How am I including them?

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Are they being
included meaningfully,

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or am I just kind of talking
to them at the beginning,

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leaving them, and going
and designing in my lab

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and then just showing--

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maybe even showing them or
not at the end what I'm doing?

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So I think those are
all things where--

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like Svafa said
at the beginning--

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the last question-- is they
should also be embedded

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in our education, right?

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So you should really be
having this design curriculum

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where you're taught
to question, you're

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taught to think periodically,
not just at the beginning

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or the end, so that you're kind
of avoiding the problem where

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you're saying, I went through
the whole design process,

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and now at the end, should I
loop back to the beginning?

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You should actually be
doing this at every stage

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so that you're not
waiting till the very end.

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And then at that point, it's
a sunk cost, where you think,

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it's too late, I'm
just moving on.

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I'm going to make the thing.

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Like, it's just-- and I
think that's the experiences,

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especially in industry, where
you're just at that stage

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where you've put
in too much money,

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you've put into much
time, you have deadlines,

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you have to make the thing.

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And so making sure that
you're actually doing that

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at every stage of the
process is super important,

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and using frameworks like
the Design Justice framework

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to be able to do that.

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Yeah.

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Jonathan?

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Yeah, I really appreciate
the shout to Design Justice.

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I also think there's
actually a lot of resonance

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between this question
and the previous one,

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where often these questions
are questions of values

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and misalignments in
values between designers

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and the people
that design affects

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and then the use of power and
resolving these conflicts right

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sometimes.

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When you're a designer
and you realize

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that you were asking the wrong
question in the beginning,

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sometimes that's the result
of a process of discovery,

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and that's very important.

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And sometimes it was very
clear to everyone else

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that you were asking the wrong
question the whole time right,

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and it just took a long
time to maybe notice.

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And so I think that's
part of why co-design

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is a very important part of my
methodological toolkit, where

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designers are
collaborating with people

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from the communities
or the populations

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that their designs
are meant for.

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And when you set out to
design something and someone

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is telling you that maybe that's
not the right thing to design

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and you have the
option to ignore them,

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that's power, right?

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And I think it's very
important for designers

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to be attendant
to the situations

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in which they hold
a lot of power

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over the things that get
built. And kind of conversely,

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I think within the context
of large corporations,

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I think I'm very interested in
the collective power of people

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who work as designers
in these contexts

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to exert influence over
design directives that

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come down from above that are
driven by the profit motive.

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I've been very inspired
by kind of the labor

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movement in the tech
industry and things

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like No Tech for ICE, where
software engineers are kind of

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refusing to build
software that will

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be deployed at the border
for cruel purposes.

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So yeah, I think that's
something that should really

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be incorporated into people's
design learning journey

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at an early stage because it's
kind of important in any kind

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of real social context.

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I think part of
your question was

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about the environment, in
which people can actually

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behave the way we
want them to behave

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to have the power to iterate
and the power to make a choice.

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So maybe I can ask some
of the advisors on that.

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So how do we create
an environment,

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maybe in corporate,
maybe in academia,

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where we feel empowered to
iterate and we have the time

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and we have the choice?

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How do we do that?

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Maybe Art, if you--

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[LAUGHS] it's a tough one.

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Uh--

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[LAUGHS]

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How do we create the
environment to design solutions?

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Let's phrase it like that.

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I mean, for me, it's sort
of thinking about what

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the incentives are, right?

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So I'm just going to
focus on the context

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that I know, which is sort of
the academic context, right?

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And in computer science,
and in particular,

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in the field that
Jonathan and I work in,

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which is human-computer
action, there's often

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a lot of not necessarily
pressure, but you look around,

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and everyone is publishing
at a really fast pace, right?

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Because

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There's so many exciting
design questions to ask.

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Every day, I open
Twitter, and I discover

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ChatGPT is able to do something
new because someone discovered

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it, right?

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And so I think all of that
sort of excitement and activity

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can cause a sense of pressure,
where we feel like we just got

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to get that thing out, right?

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And if you feel that
pressure, that you've

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got to get that
thing out, I think

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it makes it difficult to
pause and go, wait a minute,

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is this the thing
I should be doing?

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Maybe I did ask that question.

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Should I continue to
work on that question?

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Or things like that.

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And at least in my little
research community,

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I see my role is trying
to really depressurize

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that and change the incentive
structures for members

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of our research
group, where the way

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we measure our success is not--

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and oftentimes, there's a
temptation in research papers

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to say, we are the
first to do this thing.

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And I don't really want
us in our research group

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to prioritize being the
first at producing something,

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but I want us to
be the set of folks

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who are designing something
where we've learned something

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meaningful or
we've really helped

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advance the conversation
in a meaningful way

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or something like that.

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So the way I think about it is
really changing those incentive

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structures a little bit.

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Good.

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Anything?

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So I am a design process person.

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I think our product design
and development process

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and how all the steps--

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I think, for your
question, I agree

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with what Jana and I-- she was--
she said some of the things

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that I would probably mention.

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I think the other
two things are,

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the most dangerous thing
out there for anybody

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is to have one idea.

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Because all of a sudden,
that idea looks awesome.

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That's the idea I'm
going to go with.

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So if you have a lot of
ideas and of varying quality

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or whatever, you don't feel
trapped by that one idea.

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And that's very hard.

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Because there's a phrase,
don't marry your first idea.

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But that's what people do.

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They're like, oh, this is great.

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Looks good.

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I'm going to go with it.

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And they discover halfway
through the process

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it was not a good idea.

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So you have to have
a backup plan always.

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That's one.

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And be open.

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And the other is to have lots of
off-ramps through the process.

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So agile development
for software

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is getting more used in
physical product development,

24:44.810 --> 24:46.880
but it's the idea that
you have a sprint,

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and you accept that maybe
it's not going to be OK.

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And you can let the idea go,
and you go on to the next one.

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And you build it
into the process

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so it's part of the culture.

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So you're not too
attached to the idea,

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and you're willing to let it go.

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Not all companies
do that, but if you

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have that sort of ability,
then you can let go.

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I pretty much agree.

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I agree with that.

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And just building on
what Maria is saying,

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the idea that you don't
marry your first idea--

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in today's world of efficiency--
and I think, Jonathan,

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you were speaking
to this as well--

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but it's hard sometimes
for professionals

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and for students to slow down
and to actually put forward

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many ideas.

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They get stuck on one idea.

25:29.690 --> 25:32.090
They have to pump something
out the night before class

25:32.090 --> 25:32.700
or something.

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And one idea comes out.

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And it's hard to sometimes
encourage people to step back

25:41.600 --> 25:44.000
and to really like
loosen up, to sketch,

25:44.000 --> 25:46.520
to try to examine
several different ideas,

25:46.520 --> 25:49.160
not because one is
bad, but you don't

25:49.160 --> 25:53.030
know that design is
a discovery process,

25:53.030 --> 25:55.790
and you really don't
know what you will end up

25:55.790 --> 25:58.790
where you will end up unless
you go through that process,

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as I'm sure you're aware.

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So unlike other
things, like math,

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which can be elegantly solved,
and things like that, design,

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you actually sort of need to
do it to produce new knowledge.

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So there's that act of
actually making, drawing,

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many times iterating.

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And it's actually challenging
to communicate as an educator

26:17.990 --> 26:22.680
why that could be important
and why it's valuable.

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The other thing that wasn't yet
said that I think I could add

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is that design is
a form of practice.

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It's a form of mental practice.

26:32.090 --> 26:34.550
It's critical thinking,
as others have said.

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But it's also the ability
to kind of exercise

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your imagination.

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And that sounds so corny.

26:40.460 --> 26:44.450
It sounds like, everybody does
this, and what is she saying.

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But I actually believe that
our limitations collectively

26:48.680 --> 26:53.450
are very much being eroded by
all sorts of scripting and call

26:53.450 --> 26:57.650
and response type of things that
we see in media, on television,

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and many other places.

26:58.980 --> 27:03.710
So to actually have that free
open mind and that agility

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to not get stuck on
one idea but to look

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at a range of different
ideas and then

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assess them is a way of
practicing one's design

27:11.720 --> 27:12.560
imagination.

27:12.560 --> 27:14.300
And eventually, with
a lot of practice,

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you become quite expert
at imagining things.

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And that's really,
really a power.

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To me, that's one of
the biggest powers of--

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the power of the
architectural imagination--

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because I'm an
architect-- but also

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the power of the
design imagination.

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Wonderful.

27:29.750 --> 27:32.090
So unfortunately, I
think our time is up,

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but we have 1 minute left.

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Do we have one more?

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One final one before I move on?

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No?

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[LAUGHS] There's one.

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OK, go ahead.

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So I think I want to build
upon the last question

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Sheila just mentioned about--

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I want to build upon kind of the
last question-- last comment.

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Sheila, you mentioned about
re-imagination, right?

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I think as a designer
or as a professional,

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we re-imagine ourselves.

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How do we get other people
to either accept the idea

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or re-imagine with us?

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Kind of maybe some technique or
methodology you guys are using,

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feel very effective to bring
that, become a movement

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versus a single walk.

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OK.

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Fellows, do you want
to talk to that?

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Go ahead, Jess.

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Sort of the question,
if I could reiterate,

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is just inviting others to
design with you, sort of--

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Right, but you
can invite others.

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It doesn't mean
[INAUDIBLE],, right?

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Yeah.

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[INAUDIBLE] Some
of the things you

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have used, which you
thought that was effective

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and worked very well, especially
when we re-imagine something

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which could be very different
on what's the status quo?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Whether it's de-growth or
extreme affordable design,

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depends on [INAUDIBLE], right?

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And you try to do something.

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You want to bring people
along [INAUDIBLE] with you,

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and how do you make effect?

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Sure.

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I think some of it's a little
bit of ego and perspective,

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knowing that you
have a set of skills

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that you can use to communicate
something or design something

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or push something further.

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But bringing others along
with you in that process

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is super important
and also a way

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to sort of stop and reflect,
like the question that

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was asked before, allowing
the voices to come in

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and really feel like you're not
coming to somebody with just

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a finished product
and just say, hey,

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approve this so I can
say that I talked to you.

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But bring them in
from the ground up

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and moving along with them and
giving them a sense of agency,

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I think, is super important and
just makes the whole process

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easier as well.

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And it makes the
product at the end

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a lot better from the beginning.

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So just showing just true
collaboration with people

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and showing them that
their perspective truly

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matters and truly helps mold
this thing that you end up

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doing together in a true
sense of collective authorship

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is super important and I
think makes that a lot easier.

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OK.

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Can I ask Michael
one question in?

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Because we need to conclude.

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To the Fellows-- yeah,
yeah, I know, we're done.

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We're done.

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So one sentence, each of you.

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What are you going
to do more of now

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once you've gone through
the MAD Fellowship.

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What is a MAD Fellow
going to do more of--

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in 30 seconds or less?

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[LAUGHS] I think
the mad Fellowship

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has propelled me to do more of
what I was doing previously.

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So scaling up and touching
more and more people

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with what I could produce
in design, I think.

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OK, excellent.

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Jana.

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I think looking for
a design in spaces

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that is not my own, so looking
for that interdisciplinary

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design and how it could
inspire me in my own work.

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Beautiful.

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Jonathan.

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Well, I think I know
what I'm going to do,

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but I'm really interested to
see what next year's Fellows are

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going to do.

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Because I think the
best thing about MAD

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is that it's going
to keep going.

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Absolutely.

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And we need more of you.

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And that's why our
dear Fellow here--

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colleague-- Marianne--
dear Fellow--

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I made you a Fellow,
Marianne, OK.

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So but Marion
Cunningham-- she's here

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to announce the new Fellows.

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But before she does,
shall we give them

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a wonderful round of applause?

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Thank you for your insights.

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[APPLAUSE]

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(WHISPERING) It's ready.

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[WHISPERING]

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Oh, how fun.

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[LAUGHS] It's funny
to get coaching

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on pressing the button.

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So my name is Marion Cunningham
and I am the Associate Director

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for Administration for MAD, the
Morningside Academy for Design.

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First I'd like to thank
the MIT Museum for allowing

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us to use the singular venue,
and it's an aptly named

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venue, The Exchange.

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So I wanted to mention that.

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Next, I'd like to
acknowledge and Thank

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the MIT Climate
and Sustainability

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Consortium for their thematic
and financial partnership--

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for their exemplar partnership.

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Today's program is entitled
Tomorrow's Designer

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Designing Today.

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It could also have been
entitled Today's Designers

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Designing for Tomorrow.

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Because as you have
heard, MAT Fellows

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are not waiting to be engaged.

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They are already enmeshed with
designing for change today.

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MAT was created with the mission
to catalyze transformation

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by integrating design into
the educational and research

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enterprise, bringing
creative, humanistic thinking

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to society's challenges and
making positive contributions

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to the world by catalyzing
innovation, transforming

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learning, and
empowering society.

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Our new cohort is poised to
add their talents to the MAT

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mission.

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The individuals you
are going to meet

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are scholars, artists,
educators, multilingual,

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a zookeeper, and people who
have been spurred into action

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by the gaps in
services and knowledge

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they have witnessed
and experienced

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in health care, the automotive
industry, education,

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agriculture, and related
to the climate crisis.

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At our launch event in
October, Gerald Chan

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of the Morningside
Foundation said

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that students use design to
navigate the unbounded space,

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where they learn to explore
and create in anticipation

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of tackling problems in that
very unbounded space known

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as the world.

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We are delighted to introduce
you to the class of 2020--

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[LAUGHS] 4-- of MAD Fellows.

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We're going to show
you this video.

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I'm going to push
the button, but I

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wanted to alert you that
there is an imperfection

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in the center of the screen.

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And so it may be a little
skewed in terms of what you see.

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We want to acknowledge that.

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But I think you'll be
delighted to learn more

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about our Fellows.

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[VIDEO PLAYBACK]

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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- The MAD Fellowship provides
freedom for graduate students

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to explore in their
areas of passion

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and to bring their design
skills to the world's problems.

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- I really want to help
address one of the pressing

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issues that our
generation is facing,

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which is climate change.

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- The crisis of
biodiversity is also

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a crisis of ethnodiversity.

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We need radically different
ways of consuming, producing,

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and restoring.

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- I believe that design
is able to expand

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the way that we approach,
not just our industries

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and the impacts that we have
on the world physically,

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but literally our
relationships to each other,

35:10.460 --> 35:13.070
our relationships to the
ecosystem, our relationships

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to the past, to the cosmos,
and everything beyond.

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- Every year, our MAD
Fellows tackle a range

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of challenging problems.

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- I study flat
plane agriculture.

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My project has two objectives--

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climate change resilience
and food production.

35:28.700 --> 35:31.640
- I'm studying nature-based
solutions for coastal

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adaptation, specifically
how different configurations

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of oyster reef restoration
strategies influence wave

35:38.480 --> 35:39.200
attenuation.

35:39.200 --> 35:43.220
- My current PhD project is on
designing a new architecture

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for a high pressure
hydrogen storage

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tank for CO2 mitigation.

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- Design has a
deep, deep history

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at MIT as a way of
translating technology

35:55.100 --> 35:57.080
and creativity into the world.

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- The project that
I'm working on

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is the connection
between how students

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learn in a technical
class and how students

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apply that knowledge in a
project or in their career

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later on.

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- I'd like to say I'm
kind of a musician

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at heart, maybe a designer
and an engineer at hand,

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and a neuroscientist in mind.

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I build instruments
that are a combination

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between a medical instrument
and a musical instrument.

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- How might we use
human-centered design to design

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last mile transportation
delivery networks that will

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really enable us to help
communities that need it

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the most?

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- I want to help
astronauts be able to have

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the tools that they need to
solve a medical crisis when

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a life could be at risk, and
I'm hoping to use automation

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to be that tool.

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- I'm a graduate
architect by profession.

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We have a lot of
interesting tools coming out

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in the generative
AI space, and we

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could leverage the
power of these tools

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to make architecture
more accessible to a lot

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of different people.

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- My current project
is related to this idea

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that we can actually control the
behavior of a fabricated object

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by modifying the distribution of
material inside of that object,

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and I'm so excited to
learn from everyone

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else and different
corners of design

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that I haven't thought of.

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- One thing that
I'm exploring is

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using textiles and
physical making techniques

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in order to both reflect
on and archive histories

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within different diasporas.

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- I don't think a single person
can accomplish the whole design

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by himself or herself.

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- My approach to design--

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I sort like to think of it as
a multi-species approach, where

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it's not just the people
living on the coast,

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but it's the oyster, it's the
larval fish, it's the birds.

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- I generate conditions for
two things that would never

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get to speak in real life to
meet and grow generatively.

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- I feel inspired seeing the
amount of resources and support

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that we get.

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It really makes me feel
hopeful for the world.

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- We continually come
up with solutions

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to overcome any hurdle
that kind of stands

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in the way of
better understanding

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our world or the universe.

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- And the MAD Fellowship
is really a gift.

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It's a gift for students
to be able to do

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their work without worrying
about where their support will

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come from, but it's also
much more than a gift.

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It's about building
community around design.

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It's about learning
best practices,

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sharing with each other, and
ultimately elevating design

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across MIT and around the world.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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[APPLAUSE]

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[END PLAYBACK]

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So I'm going to introduce
each of the Fellows

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and indicate their department,
and with each introduction,

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they will come up.

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The first person is James Brice
from Civil and Environmental

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Engineering and the
Department of Architecture.

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[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

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Next we have Jenny Kane from
the School of Management.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Sandra Huffman from
Mechanical Engineering.

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[APPLAUSE]

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ZhiYi Liang from
Mechanical Engineering.

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[APPLAUSE]

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[? Leanne ?] [? Macatoura ?]
from Electrical Engineering

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and Computer Science.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Prathima Muniyappa from
Media Arts and Sciences.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Geoffrey Nyakiongora from the
Department of Architecture.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Tiandra Ray from Urban
Studies and Planning.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Alexandra Rieger from
Media Arts and Sciences.

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[APPLAUSE]

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And the last two Fellows who
aren't able to be here today

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are [? Chin ?] [? Chou ?] from
Urban Studies and Planning

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and Allison Porter from
Mechanical Engineering and--

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from- oh, oh, OK, Allison Porter
from the Institute of Medical

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Engineering and Science.

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[APPLAUSE AND CHEERING]

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I'd like to welcome
you and thank you

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for being a part of the
MAD Academy for Design,

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and next I'm going to
turn it over to John.

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Thank you, Marion.

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Let's have one last round of
applause for our new Fellows,

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and--

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[APPLAUSE]

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And again, we're very excited
to see how the torch brightens

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from last year to this
year and five years

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from now-- how this cohort
continues to grow and to spread

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impact in the world.

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So thank you all so much.

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And at this point, we're
going to close our event.

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We're going to thank
you all for joining.

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It's really great to be here
to celebrate the new cohort,

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to celebrate this year's cohort.

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And I want to thank the whole
MAD team, especially Adelaide

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Zollinger, Marion
Cunningham, Svafa

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for doing a fabulous job
as our moderator, Maria

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as our Associate
Director, and also

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Boston Design Week for giving
us a chance to celebrate design

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and to do it with the
broader Boston community.

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So thank you all for
joining and all the best.

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[APPLAUSE]

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And at this point, we'll ask
the Fellows and their advisors

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to join us in the Sharp room
so we can have a little family

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chat.

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See you there.
